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gladwell dot com - none of the aboveFlynn brings a similar precision to the question of whether Asians have a genetic advantage in I.Q., a possibility that has led to great excitement among I.Q. fundamentalists in recent years. Data showing that the Japanese had higher I.Q.s than people of European descent, for example, prompted the British psychometrician and eugenicist Richard Lynn to concoct an elaborate evolutionary explanation involving the Himalayas, really cold weather, premodern hunting practices, brain size, and specialized vowel sounds. The fact that the I.Q.s of Chinese-Americans also seemed to be elevated has led I.Q. fundamentalists to posit the existence of an international I.Q. pyramid, with Asians at the top, European whites next, and Hispanics and blacks at the bottom.
Here was a question tailor-made for James Flynn's accounting skills. He looked first at Lynn's data, and realized that the comparison was skewed. Lynn was comparing American I.Q. estimates based on a representative sample of schoolchildren with Japanese estimates based on an upper-income, heavily urban sample. Recalculated, the Japanese average came in not at 106.6 but at 99.2.
Then Flynn turned his attention to the Chinese-American estimates. They turned out to be based on a 1975 study in San Francisco's Chinatown using something called the Lorge-Thorndike Intelligence Test. But the Lorge-Thorndike test was normed in the nineteen-fifties. For children in the nineteen-seventies, it would have been a piece of cake. When the Chinese-American scores were reassessed using up-to-date intelligence metrics, Flynn found, they came in at 97 verbal and 100 nonverbal. Chinese-Americans had slightly lower I.Q.s than white Americans.
If you know any asian students.
You know they study, study, and then study more.
Education is highly encouraged in asian families.
Their high IQ"s are only due to hard work and not genitics.
Pretty much...it was interesting to see that despite a lower IQ in some areas they tried harder and got the job anyway.If you know any asian students.
You know they study, study, and then study more.
Education is highly encouraged in asian families.
Their high IQ"s are only due to hard work and not genitics.
Alls I know from a couple of years commuting thru Chinatown is that the myth that Asian's can't drive ain't no damn myth!
I thought this was well known.... apparently not.
I thought this was well known.... apparently not.
People with high IQ's often have difficulty predicting what is well known because they base it on what they know.
I thought this was well known.... apparently not.
People with high IQ's often have difficulty predicting what is well known because they base it on what they know.
That is true. I can't count the number of times it's got me into trouble, assuming that because I know something that everyone does. A high IQ is a gift, and a curse.... and, it means very little really. Being smart is one thing - using that intellect is another thing entirely.
You use your intellect just fine...such as it is.Alls I know from a couple of years commuting thru Chinatown is that the myth that Asian's can't drive ain't no damn myth!
People with high IQ's often have difficulty predicting what is well known because they base it on what they know.
That is true. I can't count the number of times it's got me into trouble, assuming that because I know something that everyone does. A high IQ is a gift, and a curse.... and, it means very little really. Being smart is one thing - using that intellect is another thing entirely.
That is true. I can't count the number of times it's got me into trouble, assuming that because I know something that everyone does. A high IQ is a gift, and a curse.... and, it means very little really. Being smart is one thing - using that intellect is another thing entirely.
Yes, I do. But rarely on this forum. The level of 'debate' here leaves quite a lot to be desired.
Yes, I do. But rarely on this forum. The level of 'debate' here leaves quite a lot to be desired.
Do you really expect anything higher on a political board?
I read over and over at USMB that it is a fact that Asians have higher IQs than any other ethic group. Since this makes no sense to me I decided to look around on the web and see what the evidence was...this article pretty well debunks the myth.
gladwell dot com - none of the aboveFlynn brings a similar precision to the question of whether Asians have a genetic advantage in I.Q., a possibility that has led to great excitement among I.Q. fundamentalists in recent years. Data showing that the Japanese had higher I.Q.s than people of European descent, for example, prompted the British psychometrician and eugenicist Richard Lynn to concoct an elaborate evolutionary explanation involving the Himalayas, really cold weather, premodern hunting practices, brain size, and specialized vowel sounds. The fact that the I.Q.s of Chinese-Americans also seemed to be elevated has led I.Q. fundamentalists to posit the existence of an international I.Q. pyramid, with Asians at the top, European whites next, and Hispanics and blacks at the bottom.
Here was a question tailor-made for James Flynn's accounting skills. He looked first at Lynn's data, and realized that the comparison was skewed. Lynn was comparing American I.Q. estimates based on a representative sample of schoolchildren with Japanese estimates based on an upper-income, heavily urban sample. Recalculated, the Japanese average came in not at 106.6 but at 99.2.
Then Flynn turned his attention to the Chinese-American estimates. They turned out to be based on a 1975 study in San Francisco's Chinatown using something called the Lorge-Thorndike Intelligence Test. But the Lorge-Thorndike test was normed in the nineteen-fifties. For children in the nineteen-seventies, it would have been a piece of cake. When the Chinese-American scores were reassessed using up-to-date intelligence metrics, Flynn found, they came in at 97 verbal and 100 nonverbal. Chinese-Americans had slightly lower I.Q.s than white Americans.
IQ only measures 2 kinds of intelligence out of many.
it may very well be that Japanese have more of these 2 kinds.
but they also seem to lack in areas like creativity.
all they do is imitate Europeans. but they do it very well.
