The argument is not just about slavery

Give up your racism Molly. You've benefited the most from affirmative action even as you marry the very people that made lives miserable for you. So just thank MLK and all the blacks who fought for your civil rights.
Where is racism in any of my posts? You are quick to call whites racist yet you despise all whites, it is evident by your posts. Your post also makes no sense. I have not benefitted from AA, show where I have. You don't know me at all. You don't know who I married. Who has made life miserable for me? You are a total whacko. You are to be pitied for being such a miserable excuse for a human being.
 
10 Ways American Slavery Continued Long After The Civil War

Slavery in America didn’t end with the Emancipation Proclamation. It lived on—even after the Civil War had ended and the 13th Amendment had been put into place.

The Civil War brought the Confederate States back into the Union, but the people who lived in the South weren’t through fighting. They were determined to keep things exactly as they were during the heyday of slavery.

They made state laws that let them keep black people in essential servitude. As a result, slavery in America lived on for a lot longer than most people realize.

10 Slavery Was Used As A Legal Punishment
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The 13th Amendment didn’t make all forms of slavery illegal. It kept one exception. Slavery, it ruled, was still permitted “as a punishment for crime.”

All the Southern states had to do was find a reason to arrest their former slaves, and they could legally throw them right back on the plantation. So, Southern politicians set up a series of laws called the “Black Codes” that let them arrest black people for almost anything.

In Mississippi, a black person could be arrested for anything from using obscene language to selling cotton after sunset. If he was as much as caught using a bad word, he could be charged, leased out as a slave laborer, and put to work in chain gangs and work camps on farms, mines, and quarries.

It happened a lot. By 1898, 73 percent of Alabama’s revenue came from leasing out convicts as slaves.[1]

The enslaved convicts were treated terribly. They were beaten so brutally and viciously that, in one year, one of every four enslaved convicts died while working. Work camps kept secret, unmarked graves where they would bury men they’d beaten to death to hide the evidence. By the end, those graves held the mutilated bodies of at least 9,000 men.

10 Ways American Slavery Continued Long After The Civil War - Listverse
Slavery was horrible. I am glad it ended. It has not ended entirely everywhere in the world, but you aren't concerned with that. Why do you post so many issues on slavery? The past cannot be changed. You hold a grudge against whites today for it. Contrary to your warped beliefs, things have changed since the Civil War and slavery days. Life isn't perfect, not for blacks or whites, so quit acting like a victim.
 
I think this is done here on purpose. The argument being made by blacks here do not end with slavery. There was a 100 year span of time where things went on that impacts life today. So if you can recognize how the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution impacts our lives today, the excuse of that was in the past has no merit in this discussion. In that 100 years after slavery, blacks experienced terrorism of all kinds.

A vast wealth gap, driven by segregation, redlining, evictions and exclusion, separates black and white America
By Trymaine Lee AUG. 14, 2019

Elmore Bolling, whose brothers called him Buddy, was a kind of one-man economy in Lowndesboro, Ala. He leased a plantation, where he had a general store with a gas station out front and a catering business; he grew cotton, corn and sugar cane. He also owned a small fleet of trucks that ran livestock and made deliveries between Lowndesboro and Montgomery. At his peak, Bolling employed as many as 40 people, all of them black like him.

One December day in 1947, a group of white men showed up along a stretch of Highway 80 just yards from Bolling’s home and store, where he lived with his wife, Bertha Mae, and their seven young children. The men confronted him on a section of road he had helped lay and shot him seven times — six times with a pistol and once with a shotgun blast to the back. His family rushed from the store to find him lying dead in a ditch.

The shooters didn’t even cover their faces; they didn’t need to. Everyone knew who had done it and why. “He was too successful to be a Negro,” someone who knew Bolling told a newspaper at the time. When Bolling was killed, his family estimates he had as much as $40,000 in the bank and more than $5,000 in assets, about $500,000 in today’s dollars. But within months of his murder nearly all of it would be gone. White creditors and people posing as creditors took the money the family got from the sale of their trucks and cattle. They even staked claims on what was left of the family’s savings. The jobs that he provided were gone, too. Almost overnight the Bollings went from prosperity to poverty. Bertha Mae found work at a dry cleaner. The older children dropped out of school to help support the family. Within two years, the Bollings fled Lowndes County, fearing for their lives.

The period that followed the Civil War was one of economic terror and wealth-stripping that has left black people at lasting economic disadvantage. White Americans have seven times the wealth of black Americans on average. Though black people make up nearly 13 percent of the United States population, they hold less than 3 percent of the nation’s total wealth. The median family wealth for white people is $171,000, compared with just $17,600 for black people. It is worse on the margins. According to the Economic Policy Institute, 19 percent of black households have zero or negative net worth. Just 9 percent of white families are that poor.

Today’s racial wealth gap is perhaps the most glaring legacy of American slavery and the violent economic dispossession that followed. The fate suffered by Elmore Bolling and his family was not unique to them, or to Jim Crow Alabama. It was part of a much broader social and political campaign.

“The origins of the racial wealth gap start with the failure to provide the formerly enslaved with the land grants of 40 acres,” says William A. Darity Jr., a professor of public policy and African-American studies at Duke University. Any financial progress that black people made was regarded as an affront to white supremacy. After a decade of black gains under Reconstruction, a much longer period of racial violence would wipe nearly all of it away.

Seventy years later, the effects of Bolling’s murder are still felt by his children and their children. “There was no inheritance, nothing for my father to pass down, because it was all taken away,” says Josephine Bolling McCall...

How America’s Vast Racial Wealth Gap Grew: By Plunder
America is so racist we may never have a real American black as President and have to settle for the cheap "Born in Kenya" knockoff

Since that didn't happen, don't you feel like a dumbass every time you repeat this?

Obama told his publisher that he was "born in Kenya"

In any event, no racist country would a elect a black guy to POTUS.
 
I think this is done here on purpose. The argument being made by blacks here do not end with slavery. There was a 100 year span of time where things went on that impacts life today. So if you can recognize how the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution impacts our lives today, the excuse of that was in the past has no merit in this discussion. In that 100 years after slavery, blacks experienced terrorism of all kinds.

A vast wealth gap, driven by segregation, redlining, evictions and exclusion, separates black and white America
By Trymaine Lee AUG. 14, 2019

Elmore Bolling, whose brothers called him Buddy, was a kind of one-man economy in Lowndesboro, Ala. He leased a plantation, where he had a general store with a gas station out front and a catering business; he grew cotton, corn and sugar cane. He also owned a small fleet of trucks that ran livestock and made deliveries between Lowndesboro and Montgomery. At his peak, Bolling employed as many as 40 people, all of them black like him.

One December day in 1947, a group of white men showed up along a stretch of Highway 80 just yards from Bolling’s home and store, where he lived with his wife, Bertha Mae, and their seven young children. The men confronted him on a section of road he had helped lay and shot him seven times — six times with a pistol and once with a shotgun blast to the back. His family rushed from the store to find him lying dead in a ditch.

The shooters didn’t even cover their faces; they didn’t need to. Everyone knew who had done it and why. “He was too successful to be a Negro,” someone who knew Bolling told a newspaper at the time. When Bolling was killed, his family estimates he had as much as $40,000 in the bank and more than $5,000 in assets, about $500,000 in today’s dollars. But within months of his murder nearly all of it would be gone. White creditors and people posing as creditors took the money the family got from the sale of their trucks and cattle. They even staked claims on what was left of the family’s savings. The jobs that he provided were gone, too. Almost overnight the Bollings went from prosperity to poverty. Bertha Mae found work at a dry cleaner. The older children dropped out of school to help support the family. Within two years, the Bollings fled Lowndes County, fearing for their lives.

The period that followed the Civil War was one of economic terror and wealth-stripping that has left black people at lasting economic disadvantage. White Americans have seven times the wealth of black Americans on average. Though black people make up nearly 13 percent of the United States population, they hold less than 3 percent of the nation’s total wealth. The median family wealth for white people is $171,000, compared with just $17,600 for black people. It is worse on the margins. According to the Economic Policy Institute, 19 percent of black households have zero or negative net worth. Just 9 percent of white families are that poor.

Today’s racial wealth gap is perhaps the most glaring legacy of American slavery and the violent economic dispossession that followed. The fate suffered by Elmore Bolling and his family was not unique to them, or to Jim Crow Alabama. It was part of a much broader social and political campaign.

“The origins of the racial wealth gap start with the failure to provide the formerly enslaved with the land grants of 40 acres,” says William A. Darity Jr., a professor of public policy and African-American studies at Duke University. Any financial progress that black people made was regarded as an affront to white supremacy. After a decade of black gains under Reconstruction, a much longer period of racial violence would wipe nearly all of it away.

Seventy years later, the effects of Bolling’s murder are still felt by his children and their children. “There was no inheritance, nothing for my father to pass down, because it was all taken away,” says Josephine Bolling McCall...

How America’s Vast Racial Wealth Gap Grew: By Plunder
America is so racist we may never have a real American black as President and have to settle for the cheap "Born in Kenya" knockoff

Since that didn't happen, don't you feel like a dumbass every time you repeat this?

Obama told his publisher that he was "born in Kenya"

In any event, no racist country would a elect a black guy to POTUS.

Obama didn't tell his publisher he was born in Kenya and a racist country elected a black president. Whites did not really vote for Obama.
 
Actually, the South was controlled by the Democrats during that period...

Correct, and a pox on the Democratic house. Also, from your link:

After the 1960s and passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, ensuring federal enforcement of registration and voting, African Americans in the region were able to register and vote, rejoining the political system for the first time since the turn of the 20th century. While nearly six million African Americans had left the region by then in the Great Migration to other areas of the country, most of those who remained became affiliated with the Democratic Party. Its national leaders had supported the civil rights movement. Around the same time, white conservatives began to shift to the Republican Party, which by 2000 attracted most of the white voters.

By now, the racist shitheads, and not just in the South, are forming the backbone of the Republican camp, the true heirs of the treasonous Confederacy. And, Gawd, they are giddy over Trump sticking it to Those people, taking revenge for the preposterous imposition Those people be treated with the respect they deserve as humans.

Isn't that so, Obi?
Actually, there has not been a massive shift between the parties, with all of the racist Democrats switching to Republican, but thank you for pointing out the left's ridiculous claim that "Democrats are now Republicans, and Republicans are now Democrats"...

You have to face the fact that, with the Democrats losing over 56 million potential voters through abortion, if all of their racists had left too, there is no way they could possibly be competitive in any election...

So, can I file that claim about the parties switching with their claims that "women have penises" and "cow farts will end the planet and kill us all in 12 years"???
 
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Actually, the South was controlled by the Democrats during that period...

Correct, and a pox on the Democratic house. Also, from your link:

After the 1960s and passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, ensuring federal enforcement of registration and voting, African Americans in the region were able to register and vote, rejoining the political system for the first time since the turn of the 20th century. While nearly six million African Americans had left the region by then in the Great Migration to other areas of the country, most of those who remained became affiliated with the Democratic Party. Its national leaders had supported the civil rights movement. Around the same time, white conservatives began to shift to the Republican Party, which by 2000 attracted most of the white voters.

By now, the racist shitheads, and not just in the South, are forming the backbone of the Republican camp, the true heirs of the treasonous Confederacy. And, Gawd, they are giddy over Trump sticking it to Those people, taking revenge for the preposterous imposition Those people be treated with the respect they deserve as humans.

Isn't that so, Obi?



Kind of an apples and oranges comparison there.


The dems managed a lock on the south with their racist policies.


But once they gave it up, the racists had no home. The Republicans, of the time, had an even better record on Civil Rights than the Johnny come later dems. So, why would the racist go THERE?


More likely scenario, is that with racist policies off the table, that the Southern voters, starting choosing their party affiliation based on other issues.
 
I think this is done here on purpose. The argument being made by blacks here do not end with slavery. There was a 100 year span of time where things went on that impacts life today. So if you can recognize how the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution impacts our lives today, the excuse of that was in the past has no merit in this discussion. In that 100 years after slavery, blacks experienced terrorism of all kinds.

A vast wealth gap, driven by segregation, redlining, evictions and exclusion, separates black and white America
By Trymaine Lee AUG. 14, 2019

Elmore Bolling, whose brothers called him Buddy, was a kind of one-man economy in Lowndesboro, Ala. He leased a plantation, where he had a general store with a gas station out front and a catering business; he grew cotton, corn and sugar cane. He also owned a small fleet of trucks that ran livestock and made deliveries between Lowndesboro and Montgomery. At his peak, Bolling employed as many as 40 people, all of them black like him.

One December day in 1947, a group of white men showed up along a stretch of Highway 80 just yards from Bolling’s home and store, where he lived with his wife, Bertha Mae, and their seven young children. The men confronted him on a section of road he had helped lay and shot him seven times — six times with a pistol and once with a shotgun blast to the back. His family rushed from the store to find him lying dead in a ditch.

The shooters didn’t even cover their faces; they didn’t need to. Everyone knew who had done it and why. “He was too successful to be a Negro,” someone who knew Bolling told a newspaper at the time. When Bolling was killed, his family estimates he had as much as $40,000 in the bank and more than $5,000 in assets, about $500,000 in today’s dollars. But within months of his murder nearly all of it would be gone. White creditors and people posing as creditors took the money the family got from the sale of their trucks and cattle. They even staked claims on what was left of the family’s savings. The jobs that he provided were gone, too. Almost overnight the Bollings went from prosperity to poverty. Bertha Mae found work at a dry cleaner. The older children dropped out of school to help support the family. Within two years, the Bollings fled Lowndes County, fearing for their lives.

The period that followed the Civil War was one of economic terror and wealth-stripping that has left black people at lasting economic disadvantage. White Americans have seven times the wealth of black Americans on average. Though black people make up nearly 13 percent of the United States population, they hold less than 3 percent of the nation’s total wealth. The median family wealth for white people is $171,000, compared with just $17,600 for black people. It is worse on the margins. According to the Economic Policy Institute, 19 percent of black households have zero or negative net worth. Just 9 percent of white families are that poor.

Today’s racial wealth gap is perhaps the most glaring legacy of American slavery and the violent economic dispossession that followed. The fate suffered by Elmore Bolling and his family was not unique to them, or to Jim Crow Alabama. It was part of a much broader social and political campaign.

“The origins of the racial wealth gap start with the failure to provide the formerly enslaved with the land grants of 40 acres,” says William A. Darity Jr., a professor of public policy and African-American studies at Duke University. Any financial progress that black people made was regarded as an affront to white supremacy. After a decade of black gains under Reconstruction, a much longer period of racial violence would wipe nearly all of it away.

Seventy years later, the effects of Bolling’s murder are still felt by his children and their children. “There was no inheritance, nothing for my father to pass down, because it was all taken away,” says Josephine Bolling McCall...

How America’s Vast Racial Wealth Gap Grew: By Plunder
America is so racist we may never have a real American black as President and have to settle for the cheap "Born in Kenya" knockoff

Since that didn't happen, don't you feel like a dumbass every time you repeat this?

Obama told his publisher that he was "born in Kenya"

In any event, no racist country would a elect a black guy to POTUS.

Obama didn't tell his publisher he was born in Kenya and a racist country elected a black president. Whites did not really vote for Obama.
At the time, the only source for information on Obama was Obama himself. The publisher got all the other facts correct so it's obvious that Obama told the publisher- and his colleges and Universities that he was "born in Kenya".

Blacks are a small minority in the USA, so it whites that elected born in Kenya Obama
 
I think this is done here on purpose. The argument being made by blacks here do not end with slavery. There was a 100 year span of time where things went on that impacts life today. So if you can recognize how the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution impacts our lives today, the excuse of that was in the past has no merit in this discussion. In that 100 years after slavery, blacks experienced terrorism of all kinds.

A vast wealth gap, driven by segregation, redlining, evictions and exclusion, separates black and white America
By Trymaine Lee AUG. 14, 2019

Elmore Bolling, whose brothers called him Buddy, was a kind of one-man economy in Lowndesboro, Ala. He leased a plantation, where he had a general store with a gas station out front and a catering business; he grew cotton, corn and sugar cane. He also owned a small fleet of trucks that ran livestock and made deliveries between Lowndesboro and Montgomery. At his peak, Bolling employed as many as 40 people, all of them black like him.

One December day in 1947, a group of white men showed up along a stretch of Highway 80 just yards from Bolling’s home and store, where he lived with his wife, Bertha Mae, and their seven young children. The men confronted him on a section of road he had helped lay and shot him seven times — six times with a pistol and once with a shotgun blast to the back. His family rushed from the store to find him lying dead in a ditch.

The shooters didn’t even cover their faces; they didn’t need to. Everyone knew who had done it and why. “He was too successful to be a Negro,” someone who knew Bolling told a newspaper at the time. When Bolling was killed, his family estimates he had as much as $40,000 in the bank and more than $5,000 in assets, about $500,000 in today’s dollars. But within months of his murder nearly all of it would be gone. White creditors and people posing as creditors took the money the family got from the sale of their trucks and cattle. They even staked claims on what was left of the family’s savings. The jobs that he provided were gone, too. Almost overnight the Bollings went from prosperity to poverty. Bertha Mae found work at a dry cleaner. The older children dropped out of school to help support the family. Within two years, the Bollings fled Lowndes County, fearing for their lives.

The period that followed the Civil War was one of economic terror and wealth-stripping that has left black people at lasting economic disadvantage. White Americans have seven times the wealth of black Americans on average. Though black people make up nearly 13 percent of the United States population, they hold less than 3 percent of the nation’s total wealth. The median family wealth for white people is $171,000, compared with just $17,600 for black people. It is worse on the margins. According to the Economic Policy Institute, 19 percent of black households have zero or negative net worth. Just 9 percent of white families are that poor.

Today’s racial wealth gap is perhaps the most glaring legacy of American slavery and the violent economic dispossession that followed. The fate suffered by Elmore Bolling and his family was not unique to them, or to Jim Crow Alabama. It was part of a much broader social and political campaign.

“The origins of the racial wealth gap start with the failure to provide the formerly enslaved with the land grants of 40 acres,” says William A. Darity Jr., a professor of public policy and African-American studies at Duke University. Any financial progress that black people made was regarded as an affront to white supremacy. After a decade of black gains under Reconstruction, a much longer period of racial violence would wipe nearly all of it away.

Seventy years later, the effects of Bolling’s murder are still felt by his children and their children. “There was no inheritance, nothing for my father to pass down, because it was all taken away,” says Josephine Bolling McCall...

How America’s Vast Racial Wealth Gap Grew: By Plunder
America is so racist we may never have a real American black as President and have to settle for the cheap "Born in Kenya" knockoff

Since that didn't happen, don't you feel like a dumbass every time you repeat this?

Obama told his publisher that he was "born in Kenya"

In any event, no racist country would a elect a black guy to POTUS.

Obama didn't tell his publisher he was born in Kenya and a racist country elected a black president. Whites did not really vote for Obama.
Since there are more whites than blacks, yes whites did vote for Obama or he would not have been president.
 

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