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Ilhan Omar should be removed from office and prosecuted. I would seriously pay to see someone rip that stupid fuck’n thing off of her stupid fuck’n head. Both her and Rashida Tlaib would be denounced for their antisemitism if the Democrat Party had an ounce of integrity.

Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar introduce resolution aimed at bolstering Israel boycotts

Fake patriot morons think holding Israel, the nation state, accountable is the same thing as hating Jews.

Asshole, your pals hate the Jews. They hate our American Jews. You fucking moron.

Palestinians have never hated Jews, and you can tell because in 1920 they agreed to encourage Jewish immigration because they thought it would boost the economy. But that was when Jews promised to not get involved in politics, and to limit immigration to reasonable numbers. Instead millions of European Jews illegally immigrated, were fully armed, and took over by murder.

in 1920---THE ONLY "PALESTINIANS" in the world were jews. Your post makes no sense. Some arab leaders DID like the idea of jewish migration to Palestine
because jews created an ECONOMY----built the first hospitals---etc etc----providing them and their families with at least some medical care. ------and also began cleaning up the area of cholera, shistosomiasis and the various causes of skin diseases and blindness prevalent in the arab population. All muslims are taught to hate jews ------if they ever attend a mosque. Of course the Turks liked the fact that jews bought land from them------and the fact that arab muslims despise jews----did not bother Turks that much since Turks despise arabs. The most idiotic of
Rigby's comments above is "jews came fully armed" ??? with what-----nuclear bombs? ----or fountain pens?

That is ridiculous.

In 1890, there were 43,000 Jews in Palestine, (mostly the Old Quarter of Jerusalem), and 432,000 Muslims.
Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia
In 1922, there were 84,000 Jews in Palestine, , and 589,000 Muslims.

The percentage of Jews in Palestine increase before and after WWII, but there have never been more than 30% of the population of Palestine being Jewish. And even now, if you combine Israel and Palestine, the 6 million Jews are only 30% of the total 18 million population,

No Muslims are ever taught to hate Jews.
If so then Jews would not have primarily chosen to live in Muslim countries.
Why do over 30,000 Jews prefer to live in Tehran right now, over Israel?

The reality is that Muslims are taught that they are a type of reformed Jew, with the same Old Testament.
 
They are right, Israel has been in violation of international law for over half a century.
There is not even a valid legal reason for Israel to even exist, considering that only Palestine is mentioned as gaining independence in the Treaty of Sevres.
Basically Israel is 6 million immigrant Jews trying to rule over 12 million native Muslims.


Basically, you have an IQ that hovers somewhere between 60 and 70.


The Jewish immigrants to Palestine bought almost no land at all in Palestine/Israel.
They are just taking homes at gunpoint, and forcing the owners to leave the country.
It is totally criminal.
Zionism is even against Jewish religious beliefs, since Jews are supposed to be atoning for the sins of arrogance and pride, waiting for the Messiah to come.

If the Zionists were supposed to get an independent Israel, then how come the Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel and murdered all the people in the British headquarters there?

If Zionists were noble, then why did they machinegun the UN moderator, Count Folke Bernadotte?

Face facts. You are protecting criminals who were never supposed to get their own country, and they are murdering innocent people in order to steal homes now.


That's a load of bullshit.

That land was called Judae and belonged to the Jews in the time of Christ.

Those Arabs left their homes, abandoned them, thinking once the Jews came they would drive them out. We all see how that worked.

If you call those people innocent then you are one deluded idiot. Israel is surrounded by enemies and is attacked all the time.

Your honesty is sorley lacking.

Totally wrong.
Some of the land was known known as Juda, but that had nothing to do with the Hebrew invaders.
The Hebrew invaders got their other name of being Jews from Juda that existed before the Hebrew invasion for thousands of years.
Jews were named FROM Juda, and did not name Juda from them.

The Arabs fled in 1948 because Zionist gangs were massacring them, like the several hundred woman and children murdered in Dier Yassin.
By law they must be allowed to return, because they owned the property.
Denying their right of return after the fighting is over, is a war crime.

No one attacked Israel.
Zionists started the attack on Muslim villages.
Compare the 1947 and 1949 maps.
What do you think happened to those hundreds of Arab villages that disappeared?

You are so full of shit.

The Jews have been attacked constantly.

Oh and the land they are on was their in the time of Christ. It was theirs till the Romans came.

If Arab villages have disappeared its because the owners left. Not because the Jews killed them.

You sure are stupid.

That is a lie.
Before the Hebrew invasion of 1000 BC, it was the Land of Canaan, and no Hebrew lived there at all.
And while the Hebrew ruled for several hundred years, they were defeated and driven out at least 3 times, by the Assyrians, Babylonians, and finally the Romans.
That is because they were arrogant, murderous, and greedy.
For example, Joshua massacring all the Canaanites at Jericho, including all the women and Children.
The land of Canaan did not belong to the Jews at the time of Christ, but the Romans.
The Romans beat the Pontus, and established Jews as rules, not owners.
The Romans picked the Jews only to rule for them until they got too rebellious.

The body count of Arab villages like Dier Yassin that were massacred by Zionist is well recorded.
You clearly are lying.
And those who successfully fled the violence, are required by international law to return.
Anyone who does not let them return, are thieves.
 
They are right, Israel has been in violation of international law for over half a century.
There is not even a valid legal reason for Israel to even exist, considering that only Palestine is mentioned as gaining independence in the Treaty of Sevres.
Basically Israel is 6 million immigrant Jews trying to rule over 12 million native Muslims.


Basically, you have an IQ that hovers somewhere between 60 and 70.


The Jewish immigrants to Palestine bought almost no land at all in Palestine/Israel.
They are just taking homes at gunpoint, and forcing the owners to leave the country.
It is totally criminal.
Zionism is even against Jewish religious beliefs, since Jews are supposed to be atoning for the sins of arrogance and pride, waiting for the Messiah to come.

If the Zionists were supposed to get an independent Israel, then how come the Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel and murdered all the people in the British headquarters there?

If Zionists were noble, then why did they machinegun the UN moderator, Count Folke Bernadotte?

Face facts. You are protecting criminals who were never supposed to get their own country, and they are murdering innocent people in order to steal homes now.


That's a load of bullshit.

That land was called Judae and belonged to the Jews in the time of Christ.

Those Arabs left their homes, abandoned them, thinking once the Jews came they would drive them out. We all see how that worked.

If you call those people innocent then you are one deluded idiot. Israel is surrounded by enemies and is attacked all the time.

Your honesty is sorley lacking.

Totally wrong.
Some of the land was known known as Juda, but that had nothing to do with the Hebrew invaders.
The Hebrew invaders got their other name of being Jews from Juda that existed before the Hebrew invasion for thousands of years.
Jews were named FROM Juda, and did not name Juda from them.

The Arabs fled in 1948 because Zionist gangs were massacring them, like the several hundred woman and children murdered in Dier Yassin.
By law they must be allowed to return, because they owned the property.
Denying their right of return after the fighting is over, is a war crime.

No one attacked Israel.
Zionists started the attack on Muslim villages.
Compare the 1947 and 1949 maps.
What do you think happened to those hundreds of Arab villages that disappeared?

your Imam lied-----Deir Yassin was a quasi arab terrorist installation that existed
to inflict a starvation siege on Jewish east Jerusalem. Arab villages?-----gone ?like millions of other villages in the world.. -------even in the USA ----the entire body count of the Deir Yassin Battle was a bit over 100 "by law"? certainly not by shariah law-------I have relatives that fled the vile stench of islam in what are now MUSLIM OCCUPIED LANDS-------what law returns their land to them? I would be delilghted------my hubby was born in an OIL RICH land now OCCUPIED BY THE OVERFLOW FROM ARABIA. When do I get my oil well?
 
Ilhan Omar should be removed from office and prosecuted. I would seriously pay to see someone rip that stupid fuck’n thing off of her stupid fuck’n head. Both her and Rashida Tlaib would be denounced for their antisemitism if the Democrat Party had an ounce of integrity.

Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar introduce resolution aimed at bolstering Israel boycotts

Fake patriot morons think holding Israel, the nation state, accountable is the same thing as hating Jews.

Asshole, your pals hate the Jews. They hate our American Jews. You fucking moron.

Palestinians have never hated Jews, and you can tell because in 1920 they agreed to encourage Jewish immigration because they thought it would boost the economy. But that was when Jews promised to not get involved in politics, and to limit immigration to reasonable numbers. Instead millions of European Jews illegally immigrated, were fully armed, and took over by murder.

in 1920---THE ONLY "PALESTINIANS" in the world were jews. Your post makes no sense. Some arab leaders DID like the idea of jewish migration to Palestine
because jews created an ECONOMY----built the first hospitals---etc etc----providing them and their families with at least some medical care. ------and also began cleaning up the area of cholera, shistosomiasis and the various causes of skin diseases and blindness prevalent in the arab population. All muslims are taught to hate jews ------if they ever attend a mosque. Of course the Turks liked the fact that jews bought land from them------and the fact that arab muslims despise jews----did not bother Turks that much since Turks despise arabs. The most idiotic of
Rigby's comments above is "jews came fully armed" ??? with what-----nuclear bombs? ----or fountain pens?

That is ridiculous.

In 1890, there were 43,000 Jews in Palestine, (mostly the Old Quarter of Jerusalem), and 432,000 Muslims.
Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia
In 1922, there were 84,000 Jews in Palestine, , and 589,000 Muslims.

The percentage of Jews in Palestine increase before and after WWII, but there have never been more than 30% of the population of Palestine being Jewish. And even now, if you combine Israel and Palestine, the 6 million Jews are only 30% of the total 18 million population,

No Muslims are ever taught to hate Jews.
If so then Jews would not have primarily chosen to live in Muslim countries.
Why do over 30,000 Jews prefer to live in Tehran right now, over Israel?

The reality is that Muslims are taught that they are a type of reformed Jew, with the same Old Testament.

all muslims are taught to hate jews------three year olds squeak out MAWT AL YAHUD (of course they are also taught to hate Christians, Hindus, Buddhists,
Zoroastrians--------and that that other not the right kind of muslim over there) Jews
lived in land occupied by muslims MOSTLY because they were already there when the barbaric hordes from Arabia overran---raped, murdered, enslaved and pillaged. The Glorious Age of Islamic murder, rape, pillage and theft is only
about 1300 years old. Jews have been living thruout north Africa---and parts of Europe and asia ----for more than 2500 years and todays Israel for more than 4000 years
 
are You are pushing a strawman argument.

I posted the LEGAL and Historical basis for their modern existence, you have ignored it so far.

Cheers.

The point is people living on a land for 100's of years should have rights.

If Native Americans came out & started killing Americans, walling them up, bulldozing their houses, because they lived there long ago,
I don't think a heck of a lot of USA peoples would not stand up.

But, when Palestinians are in the same situation, they're so evil.

No, you & your ilk are so evil, and dumb, and everything else wrong.

The Palestinians REJECTED their majority of the land offer in 1947, Heck even Mahmoud Abbas the leader of the PNA, admits they should have accepted the offer from the UN

In 2011, Mahmoud Abbas stated that the 1947 Arab rejection of United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a mistake he hoped to rectify.[154]

thus you are once again pushing a dead argument.

How dare they not negotiate with the people stealing their land.

Conquest is not theft. Ask Crimea.

Invasion and conquest clearly are exactly theft.
But Crimea was neither invasion nor conquest.
The vast majority of the citizens of Crimea are ethnic Russians and wanted to become part of Russian once again, as they have been before the 1950s.

Vast majority in Israel are Jews and don't want to associate with terrorist Islamists. Thanks for making my point. Conquest is theft? So we stole the US from Native Americans and England? LOL
 
The point is people living on a land for 100's of years should have rights.

If Native Americans came out & started killing Americans, walling them up, bulldozing their houses, because they lived there long ago,
I don't think a heck of a lot of USA peoples would not stand up.

But, when Palestinians are in the same situation, they're so evil.

No, you & your ilk are so evil, and dumb, and everything else wrong.

The Palestinians REJECTED their majority of the land offer in 1947, Heck even Mahmoud Abbas the leader of the PNA, admits they should have accepted the offer from the UN

In 2011, Mahmoud Abbas stated that the 1947 Arab rejection of United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a mistake he hoped to rectify.[154]

thus you are once again pushing a dead argument.

How dare they not negotiate with the people stealing their land.

Conquest is not theft. Ask Crimea.

Invasion and conquest clearly are exactly theft.
But Crimea was neither invasion nor conquest.
The vast majority of the citizens of Crimea are ethnic Russians and wanted to become part of Russian once again, as they have been before the 1950s.

Vast majority in Israel are Jews and don't want to associate with terrorist Islamists. Thanks for making my point. Conquest is theft? So we stole the US from Native Americans and England? LOL

not only that-----the rapist of Arabia STOLE MECCA from the Meccans-----and he stole "medina" ----the erstwhile Yathrib, from the JEWS. --------da barbarians of Arabia ALSO stole Constantinople from the Christians------and the muslims STOLE Afghanistan from the Buddhists. ------and now all kinds of strangers
are STEALING BROOKLYN
 
Basically, you have an IQ that hovers somewhere between 60 and 70.


The Jewish immigrants to Palestine bought almost no land at all in Palestine/Israel.
They are just taking homes at gunpoint, and forcing the owners to leave the country.
It is totally criminal.
Zionism is even against Jewish religious beliefs, since Jews are supposed to be atoning for the sins of arrogance and pride, waiting for the Messiah to come.

If the Zionists were supposed to get an independent Israel, then how come the Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel and murdered all the people in the British headquarters there?

If Zionists were noble, then why did they machinegun the UN moderator, Count Folke Bernadotte?

Face facts. You are protecting criminals who were never supposed to get their own country, and they are murdering innocent people in order to steal homes now.


That's a load of bullshit.

That land was called Judae and belonged to the Jews in the time of Christ.

Those Arabs left their homes, abandoned them, thinking once the Jews came they would drive them out. We all see how that worked.

If you call those people innocent then you are one deluded idiot. Israel is surrounded by enemies and is attacked all the time.

Your honesty is sorley lacking.

Totally wrong.
Some of the land was known known as Juda, but that had nothing to do with the Hebrew invaders.
The Hebrew invaders got their other name of being Jews from Juda that existed before the Hebrew invasion for thousands of years.
Jews were named FROM Juda, and did not name Juda from them.

The Arabs fled in 1948 because Zionist gangs were massacring them, like the several hundred woman and children murdered in Dier Yassin.
By law they must be allowed to return, because they owned the property.
Denying their right of return after the fighting is over, is a war crime.

No one attacked Israel.
Zionists started the attack on Muslim villages.
Compare the 1947 and 1949 maps.
What do you think happened to those hundreds of Arab villages that disappeared?

You are so full of shit.

The Jews have been attacked constantly.

Oh and the land they are on was their in the time of Christ. It was theirs till the Romans came.

If Arab villages have disappeared its because the owners left. Not because the Jews killed them.

You sure are stupid.

That is a lie.
Before the Hebrew invasion of 1000 BC, it was the Land of Canaan, and no Hebrew lived there at all.
And while the Hebrew ruled for several hundred years, they were defeated and driven out at least 3 times, by the Assyrians, Babylonians, and finally the Romans.
That is because they were arrogant, murderous, and greedy.
For example, Joshua massacring all the Canaanites at Jericho, including all the women and Children.
The land of Canaan did not belong to the Jews at the time of Christ, but the Romans.
The Romans beat the Pontus, and established Jews as rules, not owners.
The Romans picked the Jews only to rule for them until they got too rebellious.

The body count of Arab villages like Dier Yassin that were massacred by Zionist is well recorded.
You clearly are lying.
And those who successfully fled the violence, are required by international law to return.
Anyone who does not let them return, are thieves.

the body count of Deir Yassin is "well recorded"? ok----how many arabs and
how many jews. ? I am delighted that jews who fled the violence of the SIEGE OF EAST JERUSALEM are "required" to return---------do the romans know?
 
Thread was placed in politics about a very CURRENT Political topic.. The scope is not a 3000 yr old free for all and religious war... You want to brawl about religion or the history of the Holy Land? Pick the proper forum..

There's a Religion forum and an Israel/Palestine forum... In the I/P forum there is a dedicated thread to fighting over the 3000 yr history of the Holy Land.. USE IT...

Our only REAL tool for judging content at USMB is whether the content is ON TOPIC.. And once it extends beyond the scope of the OP -- we cannot fairly moderate it....

If the OP wants to restart the topic in Politics, they are welcome to do so on the condition that thread derailments from the contemporary political topic are reported. Scope does not go to religion or ancient history....
 
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