The Afghanistan Quagmire Just Gets Deeper

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  1. Tommy Tainant
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    Maybe more money should have been spent on education ?
    The reasons for being in the Stan are as valid/invalid now as they were on day one. If we are not there we leave a vacuum for the baddies to fill.
     
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    Afghans overwhelmingly (99%) want Sharia. Let them have it. Leave them alone.
     
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    New reports from Afghanistan give false hopes for peace

    From reading this piece, I can find absolutely no reason for any kind of hope in making a peace agreement with the Taliban. It’s their way or no way, as simple as that.

    As US, European, and Afghan officials cling to the idea that the Taliban will negotiate a peace settlement to end the war in Afghanistan, a recent string of news articles would lead you to believe that the Taliban is actually willing to reach a compromise. However, these stories are highly misleading and give false hope that an end to this 17-year conflict is in sight.

    The Taliban’s leadership isn’t at all interested in making peace with – let alone sharing power with – an Afghan government that it considers to be an un-Islamic stooge of Western powers. The Taliban has repeatedly ignored and rebuffed the Afghan government’s peace offers, as it considers the Afghan government a pawn of the West. The Taliban has stated time and time again that it is its religious obligation to wage jihad, or holy war, in order to eject the occupying forces and re-establish the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, the name of the Taliban’s government.

    When the Taliban has previously discussed negotiations, it always has two preconditions to talks: the withdrawal of foreign forces and the return of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

    To put it more simply, the Taliban’s negotiating position is: first the West and the Afghan government surrender, then we’ll talk.

    More @ New reports from Afghanistan give false hopes for peace | FDD's Long War Journal

    Afghan official: Taliban kill 3 troops in northern province
     
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    So we leave a vacuum! BFD
    What goes on in Afghanistan and who controls it has no effect on my life.
    So why should I care? Other than my country is wasting my tax money there along with lives of the US Military. Past time to pull out and leave the entire region
     
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    Tell that to the 9/11 families. Afghanistan has no effect on your life !! Dumb fuck.
     
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    Hey Asswipe If we were not fucking around in the Mid East there would not have been a 9/11
     
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    Name a single Afghani involved in 9/11. Just one!
     
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    After 16 Years, Efforts in Afghanistan “Mostly Failed”

    This report shouldn’t surprise anyone.

    Between 2001 and 2017, U.S. government efforts to stabilize insecure and contested areas in Afghanistan mostly failed.”

    That’s the main conclusion in the latest “lessons learned” report to Congress from the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR). After 16 years, nearly 2,400 U.S. service members killed, and untold billions spent, the U.S. government is no closer to achieving the “peace and freedom” that President George W. Bush promised would prevail in Afghanistan when he announced combat operations there in October 2001.

    It then lists the reasons which are rather simple when looked at in hindsight.

    Greatly overestimated its ability to build and reform government institutions

    Arrogance

    Wasteful spending

    An inadequate strategy

    Obama’s timeline “had a profound and harmful impact on countless downstream decisions regarding stabilization planning, staffing, and programming.”

    More on this @ The Most Damning Sentence On The War In Afghanistan You’ll Read Today
     
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    That's as naive as the ones wishfully thinking the Afghanis would shed hundreds of years of culture and grasp democracy, freedom, tolerant and equality for all overnight because we forced it on them.........
     

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