The "Acela" Economy: More Misery for Millions, More Millions for Misers

[Avatar4321]

You can't have an economy without class warfare

Everyone fights for a piece of the pie. However, some get first dibs on the pie while others fight over the crumbs

You can't have an economy without class warfare? I say that's total nonsense.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit (I know, I used that evil word). It's their ability to make a profit and make a life for themselves that motivates people to get up in the morning and go to work. If we knew we weren't going to make money, we wouldn't bother working would we? And where would society be?

This doesn't create classes. Classes are created when we allow our wealth to divide us. Just because someone is richer than me, doesn't mean they are my enemy. Just because someone is poorer than me doesn't mean they are my enemy either. We are all human beings.

You want to create this war between artificially created groups in society. Why? For power? It's pride that creates class warfare. That thought that someone is better or worse than another because of the wealthy they make. And until you step out of the class warfare paradign and let go of your pride, you can't unite the community.

You're a jackass when if you think envy creates huge wealth gaps and to pretend that the have nots are all greedy people and the haves are all hard working people who don't cheat to take more than their share is denial and mental illness.

So do you have anything other than personal insults and straw men?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Cant think of a single economy in human history where Class Warfare has lead to prosperity. Communist China? Cuba? NoKo?

You can't have an economy without class warfare

Everyone fights for a piece of the pie. However, some get first dibs on the pie while others fight over the crumbs

You can't have an economy without class warfare? I say that's total nonsense.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit (I know, I used that evil word). It's their ability to make a profit and make a life for themselves that motivates people to get up in the morning and go to work. If we knew we weren't going to make money, we wouldn't bother working would we? And where would society be?

This doesn't create classes. Classes are created when we allow our wealth to divide us. Just because someone is richer than me, doesn't mean they are my enemy. Just because someone is poorer than me doesn't mean they are my enemy either. We are all human beings.

You want to create this war between artificially created groups in society. Why? For power? It's pride that creates class warfare. That thought that someone is better or worse than another because of the wealthy they make. And until you step out of the class warfare paradign and let go of your pride, you can't unite the community.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit

What about those who get millions a year and don't produce shit?

 

[Sallow]

You can't have an economy without class warfare

Everyone fights for a piece of the pie. However, some get first dibs on the pie while others fight over the crumbs

You can't have an economy without class warfare? I say that's total nonsense.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit (I know, I used that evil word). It's their ability to make a profit and make a life for themselves that motivates people to get up in the morning and go to work. If we knew we weren't going to make money, we wouldn't bother working would we? And where would society be?

This doesn't create classes. Classes are created when we allow our wealth to divide us. Just because someone is richer than me, doesn't mean they are my enemy. Just because someone is poorer than me doesn't mean they are my enemy either. We are all human beings.

You want to create this war between artificially created groups in society. Why? For power? It's pride that creates class warfare. That thought that someone is better or worse than another because of the wealthy they make. And until you step out of the class warfare paradign and let go of your pride, you can't unite the community.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit

What about those who get millions a year and don't produce shit?

They get to bash the president while pretending to run for president under the Conservative Republican flag.

SEEonald Trump

 

[Sallow]

Cant think of a single economy in human history where Class Warfare has lead to prosperity. Communist China? Cuba? NoKo?

Sweden? France? Germany? Canada?

All leading growth economies for certain, none have unemployment lower that 8% either.

Well done!

Or militaries that are bigger then the entire world..combined.

 

[Avatar4321]

You can't have an economy without class warfare

Everyone fights for a piece of the pie. However, some get first dibs on the pie while others fight over the crumbs

You can't have an economy without class warfare? I say that's total nonsense.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit (I know, I used that evil word). It's their ability to make a profit and make a life for themselves that motivates people to get up in the morning and go to work. If we knew we weren't going to make money, we wouldn't bother working would we? And where would society be?

This doesn't create classes. Classes are created when we allow our wealth to divide us. Just because someone is richer than me, doesn't mean they are my enemy. Just because someone is poorer than me doesn't mean they are my enemy either. We are all human beings.

You want to create this war between artificially created groups in society. Why? For power? It's pride that creates class warfare. That thought that someone is better or worse than another because of the wealthy they make. And until you step out of the class warfare paradign and let go of your pride, you can't unite the community.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit

What about those who get millions a year and don't produce shit?

Like who exactly?

 

[P F Tinmore]

You can't have an economy without class warfare? I say that's total nonsense.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit (I know, I used that evil word). It's their ability to make a profit and make a life for themselves that motivates people to get up in the morning and go to work. If we knew we weren't going to make money, we wouldn't bother working would we? And where would society be?

This doesn't create classes. Classes are created when we allow our wealth to divide us. Just because someone is richer than me, doesn't mean they are my enemy. Just because someone is poorer than me doesn't mean they are my enemy either. We are all human beings.

You want to create this war between artificially created groups in society. Why? For power? It's pride that creates class warfare. That thought that someone is better or worse than another because of the wealthy they make. And until you step out of the class warfare paradign and let go of your pride, you can't unite the community.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit

What about those who get millions a year and don't produce shit?

Like who exactly?

Off the top of my head... George Bush. What did he ever produce?

 

[georgephillip]

How about Raj the Rat?

"Raj Rajaratnam, the billionaire investor who once ran one of the world’s largest hedge funds, was found guilty of fraud and conspiracy on Wednesday by a federal jury in Manhattan. He is the most prominent figure convicted in the government’s crackdown on insider trading on Wall Street."

Galleon's Rajaratnam Found Guilty | Truthout

 

[Toro]

All leading growth economies for certain, none have unemployment lower that 8% either.

Well done!

I'm just messin with ya Frank. I too long for the days of the Robber Barrons!

That you actually know rich people and can say something that lowbrow is truly amazing

I know lots of rich people. LOTS of rich people. I mean Fucking RICH! It's staggering.

Staggering I'm not one of them!

 

[rightwinger]

Cant think of a single economy in human history where Class Warfare has lead to prosperity. Communist China? Cuba? NoKo?

You can't have an economy without class warfare

Everyone fights for a piece of the pie. However, some get first dibs on the pie while others fight over the crumbs

You can't have an economy without class warfare? I say that's total nonsense.

People are rewarded when they find ways to produce goods and services that are a good quality and a reasonable price to make a profit (I know, I used that evil word). It's their ability to make a profit and make a life for themselves that motivates people to get up in the morning and go to work. If we knew we weren't going to make money, we wouldn't bother working would we? And where would society be?

This doesn't create classes. Classes are created when we allow our wealth to divide us. Just because someone is richer than me, doesn't mean they are my enemy. Just because someone is poorer than me doesn't mean they are my enemy either. We are all human beings.

You want to create this war between artificially created groups in society. Why? For power? It's pride that creates class warfare. That thought that someone is better or worse than another because of the wealthy they make. And until you step out of the class warfare paradign and let go of your pride, you can't unite the community.

The economy involves competition between available resources. If you assume there is a level playing field, you are nuts. The rules of the competition are written by the rich for the rich.
Is it class warfare?
Not really when one class is armed with slingshots while the other is armed with cannons

 

[bripat9643]

What about those who get millions a year and don't produce shit?

Name one.

 

[bripat9643]

Off the top of my head... George Bush. What did he ever produce?

He built an oil company, dirtbag.

 

[bripat9643]

Sweden? France? Germany? Canada?

All leading growth economies for certain, none have unemployment lower that 8% either.

Well done!

Or militaries that are bigger then the entire world..combined.

The military budget doesn't make the economy grow. In fact, it does precisely the opposite. It's a drag on the economy, so Sweden, France, Germany and Canada should be doing better than they are.

 

[rightwinger]

What about those who get millions a year and don't produce shit?

Name one.

What does Warren Buffet produce?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What about those who get millions a year and don't produce shit?

Name one.

What does Warren Buffet produce?

Value for his fellow shareholders

 

[P F Tinmore]

Off the top of my head... George Bush. What did he ever produce?

He built an oil company, dirtbag.

Arbusto Energy (sometimes referred to as Arbusto Oil)[1] was a petroleum and energy company formed in Midland, Texas, in 1977, for former US President George W. Bush by a group of investors which included Dorothy Bush, Lewis Lehrman, William Henry Draper III, Bill Gammell, and James R. Bath. The company's chief financial officer was K. Michael Conaway, now a United States Congressman from Texas.

It was later revealed that Bath made an investment of $50,000 while representing Salem bin Laden of the Saudi Binladin Group. This fact became controversial after the September 11, 2001 attacks due to Salem bin Laden being an older, half-brother of Osama bin Laden, who is alleged to have planned and financed the attacks. Upon Salem bin Laden's death in a 1988 airplane crash, in Texas, his interest in Arbusto (along with other Binladin Group assets), passed to Khalid bin Mahfouz.

In 1982, Arbusto became known as Bush Exploration, a year after George H. W. Bush became Vice President. A friend of the Bush family, Philip Uzielli, invested $1 million in 1982 in exchange for a 10% stake in the company, at a time when the whole company was valued at less than $400,000. As it neared financial collapse again in September 1984, Bush Exploration merged with Spectrum 7 Energy Corp., a company owned by William DeWitt and Mercer Reynolds. Bush became Chairman and CEO of Spectrum 7.

In 1985 Spectrum 7 reported a net loss of $1.5 million and was bought in 1986 for $2.2 million by Harken Energy, with Bush joining the Harken board of directors and finance audit committee.

In 1987 the Saudi investor Abdullah Taha Bakhsh bought most of Union Bank of Switzerland's shares in Harken becoming its third largest investor owning 17% of the company. He was represented on the board by Talat M. Othman. Another investor was Ghaith R. Pharaon, a partner of Bakhsh's, who would later be involved in the Bank of Credit and Commerce International scandal, and is currently the target of an international dragnet.

In January 1990 with the company in the same state as its previous incarnations, it was awarded a contract to drill for crude oil off the coast of Bahrain, a move that shocked industry insiders as Harken had no previous experience outside of the US or of drilling offshore.

In June 1990 Bush sold more than half of his shares in Harken to a Los Angeles broker named Ralph D. Smith. One week after the sale Harken announced an overall loss of $23.2 million triggering an investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission into the sale.

Arbusto Energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sallow]

What about those who get millions a year and don't produce shit?

Name one.

One?

Donald Trump.

Another?

Paris Hilton.

Another?

Michael Milken.

Another?

Ivan Boesky.

Another?

Kenneth Lay.

Another?

Bernard Madoff.

Want more?

 

[Sallow]

Off the top of my head... George Bush. What did he ever produce?

He built an oil company, dirtbag.

Naw.

That would have been Salem Bin Laden.

Arbusto Energy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You might have heard of his brother? Osama?

 

[bripat9643]

What does Warren Buffet produce?

He produces a lot of wealth for his investors, and he makes companies grow.

 

[editec]

The repugs who advocate lower taxes for the rich and cuts to programs for the poor certainly make it plain which side they're on. If those who became rich work there way up and became rich their riches are their reward, who do Repugs want to "reward" them with less taxes? Are they really that fucking stupid believe that rewarding the rich will help the jobless and poor?

Well, clearly they support policies that support the superwealthy class, but from their POV they are not stupid.

They are merely supporters for their team.

 

[editec]

Cant think of a single economy in human history where Class Warfare has lead to prosperity. Communist China? Cuba? NoKo?

You can't have an economy without class warfare

Everyone fights for a piece of the pie. However, some get first dibs on the pie while others fight over the crumbs

I'd modify the above somewhat.

You cannot have a society like ours with CLASSES. I mean, let's face it..division of labor is part and parcel of having societies of every type or economy

CLASS WARFARE doesn't have to be part of that, though.

In a functional complex modern society, difference classes actually work TOGETHER to improve the lives of all in that society.

The reason what we have now looks/feels like class warfare is because our society isn't exactly functioning very well, right now.