The 501c3 designation is what has destroyed the church

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    They weren’t. That’s my point. They also weren’t promoting others for office. They were promoting ideals.
     
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    thats subjective to what you think evil is,,,and based on your comment so far its evil for a person to speak their own minds,,,
     
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    Pretty simple solution. Pay your taxes then say whatever you want like anyone else.
    Don't want tax exempt status? Don't file as a tax exempt entity..
     
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    I'm gonna go ahead and call you a fucking liar,,,

    you dont have the first clue what they did on a day to day basis
     
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    The only restrictions on free speech applies to government. You don’t have a right to free speech at work, right? Does that bother you?

    And for the record, I’m not proposing laws or regulations. We already have too many of those. I am proposing common sense. Common decency.

    It is not decent to use a position of religious trust as a vehicle to promote men. Especially when it comes to politics. Whatever happens between congregants is one thing, but the institution should not be promoting candidates.

    Ideals and values? Yes.
     
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    That’s your call.
     
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    Are labor unions tax exempt?

    Because they certainly aren’t limited in the way you describe.
     
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    Sometimes there’s a person running for office that fits those ideals better than anyone else. It’s a shame they can’t support that person openly because they took the bribe, err, I mean 501c3.

    Refer to scripture about bribes. 501c3 is a bribe. “We’ll give you tax free status but you can’t discuss politics with your congregation.

    Draconian bullshit.
     
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    You don’t think the congregants discuss it amongst themselves?

    All I am saying is that a church is a place to promote ideals and values. Not people.
     
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    I don’t even understand how you reconcile this position. You’re seeing the church as a building rather than what it really is, which is just a place people are worshipping. This “place” could just as easily be out in the wilderness somewhere, or on a beach, or in someone’s house. The body of Christ is the congregation of his followers it isn’t a building. Who are you or anyone else to tell a congregation of people ANYWHERE in this country what they can or can’t say?
     
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