The 2nd Amendment (Why we our Founders wrote it)

[danielpalos]

the first clause of our Second Amendment, is the Intent and Purpose. It, is the supreme law of the land, not your right wing propaganda and rhetoric.

Yes... Because man sometimes needs to form militias in order to defend life, liberty and property, the right for men to bear arms is a natural law, endowed by our Creator and inalienable... not to be infringed.

Our Second Amendment specifically claims well regulated militia are necessary, not the unorganized militia.

Our Second Amendment specifically claims well regulated militia are necessary, not the unorganized militia.

Regulated means outfitted. It is making the statement that our right to own guns is inalienable because it's a natural right. Because men sometimes have to organize militias to defend life, liberty and property, we have the God-given right to own guns. You are trying to manipulate and torture the meaning to derive your "privilege of state" to regulate guns but owning a gun is a stated natural right.

Some of our rights are civil rights. They come from legislation and court actions. They are not natural rights like our right to bear arms. By trying to make right to bear arms into a civil right, you render ALL natural rights to be civil. This means none of your rights are inalienable.

It means supplied, trained and having an established command structure

Something a bunch of gun nuts are not

Well regulated does not mean regulations. When the Constitution specifies regulations it specifically states who and what is being regulated. The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. The fundamental purpose of the militia was to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the necessary equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

Only true socialists refuse to "compete in our objective, market based reality".

We have a supreme law of the land for a reason. Our Founding Fathers did an Most Excellent job at the convention with our federal Constitution; they thought of every Thing.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Wellness of Regulation must be prescribed by our federal Congress for the militia of the United States.

Let me repeat this since this is the winning hand... Well regulated does not mean regulations. When the Constitution specifies regulations it specifically states who and what is being regulated. The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. The fundamental purpose of the militia was to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the necessary equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Wellness of Regulation must be prescribed by our federal Congress for the militia of the United States. It is in our federal Constitution.

 

[yiostheoy]

Yes... Because man sometimes needs to form militias in order to defend life, liberty and property, the right for men to bear arms is a natural law, endowed by our Creator and inalienable... not to be infringed.

Our Second Amendment specifically claims well regulated militia are necessary, not the unorganized militia.

Regulated means outfitted. It is making the statement that our right to own guns is inalienable because it's a natural right. Because men sometimes have to organize militias to defend life, liberty and property, we have the God-given right to own guns. You are trying to manipulate and torture the meaning to derive your "privilege of state" to regulate guns but owning a gun is a stated natural right.

Some of our rights are civil rights. They come from legislation and court actions. They are not natural rights like our right to bear arms. By trying to make right to bear arms into a civil right, you render ALL natural rights to be civil. This means none of your rights are inalienable.

It means supplied, trained and having an established command structure

Something a bunch of gun nuts are not

Well regulated does not mean regulations. When the Constitution specifies regulations it specifically states who and what is being regulated. The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. The fundamental purpose of the militia was to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the necessary equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

Only true socialists refuse to "compete in our objective, market based reality".

We have a supreme law of the land for a reason. Our Founding Fathers did an Most Excellent job at the convention with our federal Constitution; they thought of every Thing.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Wellness of Regulation must be prescribed by our federal Congress for the militia of the United States.

Let me repeat this since this is the winning hand... Well regulated does not mean regulations. When the Constitution specifies regulations it specifically states who and what is being regulated. The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. The fundamental purpose of the militia was to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the necessary equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Wellness of Regulation must be prescribed by our federal Congress for the militia of the United States. It is in our federal Constitution.

You need to start with a link to somewhere in the Twilightzone.

 

[danielpalos]

Our Second Amendment specifically claims well regulated militia are necessary, not the unorganized militia.

It means supplied, trained and having an established command structure

Something a bunch of gun nuts are not

Well regulated does not mean regulations. When the Constitution specifies regulations it specifically states who and what is being regulated. The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. The fundamental purpose of the militia was to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the necessary equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

Only true socialists refuse to "compete in our objective, market based reality".

We have a supreme law of the land for a reason. Our Founding Fathers did an Most Excellent job at the convention with our federal Constitution; they thought of every Thing.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Wellness of Regulation must be prescribed by our federal Congress for the militia of the United States.

Let me repeat this since this is the winning hand... Well regulated does not mean regulations. When the Constitution specifies regulations it specifically states who and what is being regulated. The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. The fundamental purpose of the militia was to serve as a check upon a standing army, the words “well regulated” referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia have the necessary equipment and training necessary to be an effective and formidable check upon the national government’s standing army. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Wellness of Regulation must be prescribed by our federal Congress for the militia of the United States. It is in our federal Constitution.

You need to start with a link to somewhere in the Twilightzone.

thanks for ceding the point and the argument; by having nothing but rejection instead of any form of valid rebuttal.