The 1st and 2nd amendments had the same purpose

[rightwinger]

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Of course we know that will never happen

Just as much as we know the first amendment protects our freedom while the second amendment kills 30,000 Americans a year

Lying again in your war on civil liberty, huh?

No surprise for you of the Khmer Rouge.

The majority of the 30,000 are suicide. Suicide occurs with or without guns, they are irrelevant to the equation. Despite your lies.

Two out of three suicides are by gun

Suicide by overdosing on pills and you have an hour to change your mind
Suicide by gun and you have a split second

no only about half of all suicides are committed with a gun

you will never be able to stop someone who wants to kill themselves because obviously there are too may ways to count

besides what right do you have to tell a person they cannot choose to commit suicide?

You can start by keeping guns away from someone who is suicidal

and how does a gun seller know who is suicidal or not?

for that matter how do you know if someone is suicidal or not

and what gives you the right to tell anyone they can't choose to end their own life?

Sell guns to crazy people and you get what you deserve

 

[Skull Pilot]

Lying again in your war on civil liberty, huh?

No surprise for you of the Khmer Rouge.

The majority of the 30,000 are suicide. Suicide occurs with or without guns, they are irrelevant to the equation. Despite your lies.

Two out of three suicides are by gun

Suicide by overdosing on pills and you have an hour to change your mind
Suicide by gun and you have a split second

no only about half of all suicides are committed with a gun

you will never be able to stop someone who wants to kill themselves because obviously there are too may ways to count

besides what right do you have to tell a person they cannot choose to commit suicide?

You can start by keeping guns away from someone who is suicidal

and how does a gun seller know who is suicidal or not?

for that matter how do you know if someone is suicidal or not

and what gives you the right to tell anyone they can't choose to end their own life?

Sell guns to crazy people and you get what you deserve

How do you know who is crazy and who isn't?

and why are you refusing to answer my question about suicide?

 

[2aguy]

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Of course we know that will never happen

Just as much as we know the first amendment protects our freedom while the second amendment kills 30,000 Americans a year

Lying again in your war on civil liberty, huh?

No surprise for you of the Khmer Rouge.

The majority of the 30,000 are suicide. Suicide occurs with or without guns, they are irrelevant to the equation. Despite your lies.

Two out of three suicides are by gun

Suicide by overdosing on pills and you have an hour to change your mind
Suicide by gun and you have a split second

And coutries that only allow police and criminals to have guns have higher suicide rates than we do...and for the last two years, genius.....non gun suicide outnumbered gun suicide in this country....

Gun suicide does not count....

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...

22,018

Non Gun suicide...

22,078
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2014....
Gun suicide....21,334
non gun....21,439

And notice all the countries that have strict gun control laws...but higher suicide rates...Japan...with gun control stricter than ours has 2x the suicide rate that we do.....and notice the European countries, also with strict gun control....

Suicide is not a gun issue....moron.

2013:

Suicide rates around Europe

France....24.7
Belgium..28.8
Austria...23.8
Finland..29
Germany..17.9
Ireland...19
Japan...36.2
New Zealand...18.1
Sweden...18.7
Switzerland...24.8
Hungary....40

United States....17.7

 

[2aguy]

Lying again in your war on civil liberty, huh?

No surprise for you of the Khmer Rouge.

The majority of the 30,000 are suicide. Suicide occurs with or without guns, they are irrelevant to the equation. Despite your lies.

Two out of three suicides are by gun

Suicide by overdosing on pills and you have an hour to change your mind
Suicide by gun and you have a split second

no only about half of all suicides are committed with a gun

you will never be able to stop someone who wants to kill themselves because obviously there are too may ways to count

besides what right do you have to tell a person they cannot choose to commit suicide?

You can start by keeping guns away from someone who is suicidal

and how does a gun seller know who is suicidal or not?

for that matter how do you know if someone is suicidal or not

and what gives you the right to tell anyone they can't choose to end their own life?

Sell guns to crazy people and you get what you deserve

Yeah...except that isn't a problem here......

 

[ElmerMudd]

The Left has a MAJOR problem! Before Iraq and Afghanistan they had a huge number of guns in American civilian hands. Now they have a huge number of guns in TRAINED former military hands plus millions of civilians hands and that is a HUGE problem for them! Will active duty soldiers fire on American Citizens if they actively resist a U.S. Government if they try to implement a Martial Law that the majority of the American people see as NOT Lawful or Legitimate? There are now millions of former military personnel that are trained in "guerrilla warfare" all across the United States and that scares the "Big Government" you all should submit types to their panties. Not since just after the end of the Vietnam War have there been so many trained former combat soldiers available to resist an illegitimate attempt to seize control of the U.S. Government. They are not keen to being disarmed or labeled right wing terrorists either. All the Progressives well laid plans are going up in smoke and they are becoming desperate. What are they to do? Trump is in the White House. They have lost National the House, the Senate, almost all the State Governor-ships, and the State Legislatures. This calls for desperate actions.

That is the statement of a wacko. This is the mindset of a very disturbed person.
Unfairly a very small % of the US population has fought in our wars in the middle east.
Ex- military are not all conservative. as many or more are liberal and independent.

 

[Doc1]

The Left has a MAJOR problem! Before Iraq and Afghanistan they had a huge number of guns in American civilian hands. Now they have a huge number of guns in TRAINED former military hands plus millions of civilians hands and that is a HUGE problem for them! Will active duty soldiers fire on American Citizens if they actively resist a U.S. Government if they try to implement a Martial Law that the majority of the American people see as NOT Lawful or Legitimate? There are now millions of former military personnel that are trained in "guerrilla warfare" all across the United States and that scares the "Big Government" you all should submit types to their panties. Not since just after the end of the Vietnam War have there been so many trained former combat soldiers available to resist an illegitimate attempt to seize control of the U.S. Government. They are not keen to being disarmed or labeled right wing terrorists either. All the Progressives well laid plans are going up in smoke and they are becoming desperate. What are they to do? Trump is in the White House. They have lost National the House, the Senate, almost all the State Governor-ships, and the State Legislatures. This calls for desperate actions.

That is the statement of a wacko. This is the mindset of a very disturbed person.
Unfairly a very small % of the US population has fought in our wars in the middle east.
Ex- military are not all conservative. as many or more are liberal and independent.

You're full of shit. Most are indeed Conservative, if you even had a speck of knowledge you'd know that.

 

[ElmerMudd]

The Left has a MAJOR problem! Before Iraq and Afghanistan they had a huge number of guns in American civilian hands. Now they have a huge number of guns in TRAINED former military hands plus millions of civilians hands and that is a HUGE problem for them! Will active duty soldiers fire on American Citizens if they actively resist a U.S. Government if they try to implement a Martial Law that the majority of the American people see as NOT Lawful or Legitimate? There are now millions of former military personnel that are trained in "guerrilla warfare" all across the United States and that scares the "Big Government" you all should submit types to their panties. Not since just after the end of the Vietnam War have there been so many trained former combat soldiers available to resist an illegitimate attempt to seize control of the U.S. Government. They are not keen to being disarmed or labeled right wing terrorists either. All the Progressives well laid plans are going up in smoke and they are becoming desperate. What are they to do? Trump is in the White House. They have lost National the House, the Senate, almost all the State Governor-ships, and the State Legislatures. This calls for desperate actions.

That is the statement of a wacko. This is the mindset of a very disturbed person.
Unfairly a very small % of the US population has fought in our wars in the middle east.
Ex- military are not all conservative. as many or more are liberal and independent.

You're full of shit. Most are indeed Conservative, if you even had a speck of knowledge you'd know that.

Only about 35% of veterans identify as Republican. That is more than democratic but a minority of veterans of all ages.

 

[Doc1]

The Left has a MAJOR problem! Before Iraq and Afghanistan they had a huge number of guns in American civilian hands. Now they have a huge number of guns in TRAINED former military hands plus millions of civilians hands and that is a HUGE problem for them! Will active duty soldiers fire on American Citizens if they actively resist a U.S. Government if they try to implement a Martial Law that the majority of the American people see as NOT Lawful or Legitimate? There are now millions of former military personnel that are trained in "guerrilla warfare" all across the United States and that scares the "Big Government" you all should submit types to their panties. Not since just after the end of the Vietnam War have there been so many trained former combat soldiers available to resist an illegitimate attempt to seize control of the U.S. Government. They are not keen to being disarmed or labeled right wing terrorists either. All the Progressives well laid plans are going up in smoke and they are becoming desperate. What are they to do? Trump is in the White House. They have lost National the House, the Senate, almost all the State Governor-ships, and the State Legislatures. This calls for desperate actions.

That is the statement of a wacko. This is the mindset of a very disturbed person.
Unfairly a very small % of the US population has fought in our wars in the middle east.
Ex- military are not all conservative. as many or more are liberal and independent.

You're full of shit. Most are indeed Conservative, if you even had a speck of knowledge you'd know that.

Only about 35% of veterans identify as Republican. That is more than democratic but a minority of veterans of all ages.

"Military Poll: Troops Backing Trump By 3-to-1 Margin Over Clinton"

Military Poll: Troops Backing Trump By 3-to-1 Margin Over Clinton

You're dismissed dumbass.

 

[Doc1]

Career-oriented troops favor Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump over his Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton by a 3:1 margin, a new Military.com reader survey has found.

Of the more than 1,300 active-duty, National Guard and Reserve members who responded to the questionnaire and plan to vote in the Nov. 8 presidential election, about two-thirds, or 67 percent, said they plan to vote for Trump, while about a fifth, or 21 percent, said they intend to cast a ballot for Clinton.

Survey: Career-Oriented Troops Favor Trump Over Clinton | Military.com

Do your damn homework or I'll bury you like this every time.

 

[martybegan]

The 2nd amendment is about everyone's inherent right to self protection. When the cops give up their guns, I'll consider giving up my right to one as well.

And good luck getting it appealed, until then go pound sand.

I agree

Americans should have a right to bear arms for self protection. It should be administered at the state and local level depending on their needs

There is no need to maintain a "Well Regulated Militia" or to arm citizens for a government takeover. So the federal government has no pressing need to ensure firearm rights

The Constitution states otherwise!

It is a quaint old amendment that is no longer needed. About as important as the third amendment

No one has tried to house soliders in my apartment. NYC is currently infringing on my Gun Rights. The 2nd is still as valid today as it was 200+ years ago.

The left is simply at war to end civil rights.

Actually they are at war to end civil rights only for people who don't follow standard progressive orthodoxy. When they feel butt hurt they run to civil rights like petulant children.

 

[martybegan]

The 2nd amendment is about everyone's inherent right to self protection. When the cops give up their guns, I'll consider giving up my right to one as well.

And good luck getting it appealed, until then go pound sand.

I agree

Americans should have a right to bear arms for self protection. It should be administered at the state and local level depending on their needs

There is no need to maintain a "Well Regulated Militia" or to arm citizens for a government takeover. So the federal government has no pressing need to ensure firearm rights

The Constitution states otherwise!

It is a quaint old amendment that is no longer needed. About as important as the third amendment

No one has tried to house soliders in my apartment. NYC is currently infringing on my Gun Rights. The 2nd is still as valid today as it was 200+ years ago.

Stop being so cheap and buy your freakn gun

How about we make people pay to vote, and to have abortions? You know, just to make sure the right people are doing it/getting them?

 

[Spare_change]

All of their stories are fully documented and sourced. Errors are quickly acknowledged and corrections are issued.

The Trump administration does not meet the same standards

Nope. and America knows it. You being a blowhard here is irrelevant; the public has no faith in the Leftist press.

________________

43. Who do you trust more to tell the public the truth -- the Trump administration or the reporters who cover the administration?

Trump administration - 45%
Reporters - 42%
(Both) - 2%
(Neither) -10%

11-13 Feb 17

http://static.politico.com/39/51/79db278d40d1a48e50747d74b48a/170217-fox-news-media-poll.pdf

That is a sad, sad comment ... no matter on which side you stand.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The first amendment gives me the right to say what ever I want about our government...It is awesome!

 

[Uncensored2008]

All of their stories are fully documented and sourced. Errors are quickly acknowledged and corrections are issued.

The Trump administration does not meet the same standards

Nope. and America knows it. You being a blowhard here is irrelevant; the public has no faith in the Leftist press.

________________

43. Who do you trust more to tell the public the truth -- the Trump administration or the reporters who cover the administration?

Trump administration - 45%
Reporters - 42%
(Both) - 2%
(Neither) -10%

11-13 Feb 17

http://static.politico.com/39/51/79db278d40d1a48e50747d74b48a/170217-fox-news-media-poll.pdf

That is a sad, sad comment ... no matter on which side you stand.

Our Soros controlled press is less accurate and more prone to blatant propaganda than Pravda was under Josef Stalin.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The first amendment gives me the right to say what ever I want about our government...It is awesome!

Unless what you want to say is conservative, and you want to say it at Berkley or other Stalinist enclaves.

 

[Uncensored2008]

[

Actually they are at war to end civil rights only for people who don't follow standard progressive orthodoxy. When they feel butt hurt they run to civil rights like petulant children.

Privilege is not rights. You are correct that the left seeks to give themselves privilege. But rights accrue to all. The 1st does not guarantee the right of free speech so long as you support the Khmer Rouge democrats. it simple says ALL citizens have the right to speak.

The left seeks to end civil rights and return to the system where privilege is awarded to groups that have the favor of the rulers. Leftism is ultimately a return to feudalism.

 

[ElmerMudd]

[

Actually they are at war to end civil rights only for people who don't follow standard progressive orthodoxy. When they feel butt hurt they run to civil rights like petulant children.

Privilege is not rights. You are correct that the left seeks to give themselves privilege. But rights accrue to all. The 1st does not guarantee the right of free speech so long as you support the Khmer Rouge democrats. it simple says ALL citizens have the right to speak.

The left seeks to end civil rights and return to the system where privilege is awarded to groups that have the favor of the rulers. Leftism is ultimately a return to feudalism.

Uncensored is suffering from incomprehensible babble bull crap. He streams many words together that mean nothing. In the real world I bet he loves to hear himself talk but nobody else does.

 

[martybegan]

[

Actually they are at war to end civil rights only for people who don't follow standard progressive orthodoxy. When they feel butt hurt they run to civil rights like petulant children.

Privilege is not rights. You are correct that the left seeks to give themselves privilege. But rights accrue to all. The 1st does not guarantee the right of free speech so long as you support the Khmer Rouge democrats. it simple says ALL citizens have the right to speak.

The left seeks to end civil rights and return to the system where privilege is awarded to groups that have the favor of the rulers. Leftism is ultimately a return to feudalism.

Uncensored is suffering from incomprehensible babble bull crap. He streams many words together that mean nothing. In the real world I bet he loves to hear himself talk but nobody else does.

Your non-response is telling, and indicative of his statement either going over your head, or being spot on.