That military/industrial complex

[eots]

Why should the government be any more responsible for homeless vets being homeless than Joe Average Homeless Guy? Home or no, those vets have certain VA entitlements; which, is MORE than Joe Average Homeless Guy gets, and they have the same opportunity to fill out job applications.

I find it ridiculous that homeless vets are singled out as somehow "more" homeless or less deserving than other homeless of being so.

This post belongs in 1 in 4 vets homeless

 

[pegwinn]

is this really what WE want or is this what the controlled media and the military industrial complex tells a dumbed down public that its what it should want?

It's not about wants. It's about reality. The fact is that the existence of the MIC is just one reason we are a superpower and even our poor are better off than other nations middle class.

 

[eots]

It's not about wants. It's about reality. The fact is that the existence of the MIC is just one reason we are a superpower and even our poor are better off than other nations middle class.

the union of all the states and its people and its freedom is what made America a superpower..and the military industrial complex unchecked threatens that status .once we serve it ,as opposed to it serving us
we are in peril of using that power to only further the greed and corruption of monopoly men.....WE THE PEOPLE

 

[pegwinn]

the union of all the states and its people and its freedom is what made America a superpower So who actually, physically, built the hardware with which we won WWII and beyond? It wasn't the tooth fairy. Twas the MIC, which was created by yadablahblahetc.

..and the military industrial complex unchecked threatens that status .once we serve it ,as oppressed to it serving us Got proof? That we are serving it that is?

we are in peril of using that power to only further the greed and corruption of monopoly men.....WE THE PEOPLE Nah. You would have to demonstrate that with more than a slogan.

The American people are doing a fine job of vegetating themselves with help.

 

[eots]

so this haliburton carlyal group fiasco that has cost billions of dollars a tens of thousands of lives is not enough for you ...oh but wait you still think we are there because they hates are freedumds dont you ?

 

[pegwinn]

so this haliburton carlyal group fiasco that has cost billions of dollars a tens of thousands of lives is not enough for you ...oh but wait you still think we are there because they hates are freedumds dont you ?

You really want to lose the sarcasm dude. It doesn't have an effect on me, and, well,

I'm better at it than you are.

 

[LuvRPgrl]

the union of all the states and its people and its freedom is what made America a superpower..and the military industrial complex unchecked threatens that status .once we serve it ,as oppressed to it serving us
we are in peril of using that power to only further the greed and corruption of monopoly men.....WE THE PEOPLE

WOW, Im impressed ! Really,,
but what the hell does it all mean???

 

[eots]

WOW, Im impressed ! Really,,
but what the hell does it all mean???

a lot of people think eots makes this stuff up or they are delusions but the fact is my opinions have in large have come from reading what men in positions of power and influence say for themselves

if you really want to know.......


A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present

and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite.

It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.

V.

Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we -- you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.

VI.

Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect.

Such a confederation must be one of equals. The weakest must come to the conference table with the same confidence as do we, protected as we are by our moral, economic, and military strength. That table, though scarred by many past frustrations, cannot be abandoned for the certain agony of the battlefield.

Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war -- as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years -- I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight.

Happily, I can say that war has been avoided. Steady progress toward our ultimate goal has been made. But, so much remains to be done. As a private citizen, I shall never cease to do what little I can to help the world advance along that road.

VII.

So -- in this my last good night to you as your President -- I thank you for the many






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[eots]

You really want to lose the sarcasm dude. It doesn't have an effect on me, and, well,

I'm better at it than you are.

if this is a example.......I dont think so..............dude

 

[pegwinn]

Originally Posted by pegwinn
You really want to lose the sarcasm dude. It doesn't have an effect on me, and, well,

I'm better at it than you are.

if this is a example.......I dont think so..............dude

Ah Grasshopper, your Kung Fu is weak. That was merely a friendly warning. Discuss, or Duel, your choice.