Thanksgiving eve surprise: Feds to block off 9M acres for spotted owl

[GuyPinestra]

We've got a deficit to worry about and we have to hear stuff like this? No wonder Romney was rejected. People are tired of the petty bullshit, when there are important issues to take care of.

14,062.5 square miles... Thousands of jobs lost, lumber prices go up, value of land goes down, what's NOT to love??

 

[BallsBrunswick]

We've got a deficit to worry about and we have to hear stuff like this? No wonder Romney was rejected. People are tired of the petty bullshit, when there are important issues to take care of.

14,062.5 square miles... Thousands of jobs lost, lumber prices go up, value of land goes down, what's NOT to love??

What do you base that on? Nothing... okay.

Did nobody read the article? Lumber companies can still cut trees down in the area.

 

[Clementine]

"Conservative News"? Never fucking heard of it How do you people find sites like this? Drudge? breitbart? WHERE?!!!

Is this your way of saying that the feds didn't really block off 9 million acres? What is your opinion of this new policy? For or against? Or, are you waiting to see if Obama did this before declaring your support?

I am asking because there have been countless times in the past that posters refused to take a stand until they knew it was fact. It's like they can't give an opinion until the leftist gurus give them one.

I have also seen some things dismissed as conspiracy theories by the left, only to later have them support the same things because they were true. Calling Obama a socialist was deemed racist and those stating that were called liars. Now there is a strong defense of socialism because it's clear that Obama's policies are socialist.

Without attacking the source, do you agree with the feds doing this for the owls?

 

[tyroneweaver]

"Conservative News"? Never fucking heard of it How do you people find sites like this? Drudge? breitbart? WHERE?!!!

Call up idustrial injectors in slc, utah and ask for mini maxx delete tuner
Call up H and S performance in ST. George, Utah, and as for a delete tuner

...and then you'll understand how far this admit is going with their crap.

People have absolutely no clue how this admit is shutting down the industrial complex of this nation.

 

[GuyPinestra]

We've got a deficit to worry about and we have to hear stuff like this? No wonder Romney was rejected. People are tired of the petty bullshit, when there are important issues to take care of.

14,062.5 square miles... Thousands of jobs lost, lumber prices go up, value of land goes down, what's NOT to love??

What do you base that on? Nothing... okay.

Did nobody read the article? Lumber companies can still cut trees down in the area.

Are you really that fucking stupid? What do you think happened with the FIRST restrictions for the Spotted Owl habitat?

And guess what? The Spotted Owl is losing population anyway, from competition by....

get ready....

wait for it....

wait....

the Barred Owl!!

Darwinism at work, natural selection. The Barred Owl is bigger and meaner. It's even KILLING the Spotted Owls to eliminate the competition.

IOW, Obama and Co. are doubling down on stupid, killing thousands more jobs and not ACCOMPLISHING a God-damned thing that will 'save' the Spotted Owl!

Way to go, Enviro-Nazis!!!

 

[Too Tall]

We've got a deficit to worry about and we have to hear stuff like this? No wonder Romney was rejected. People are tired of the petty bullshit, when there are important issues to take care of.

14,062.5 square miles... Thousands of jobs lost, lumber prices go up, value of land goes down, what's NOT to love??

What do you base that on? Nothing... okay.

Did nobody read the article? Lumber companies can still cut trees down in the area.

I read both articles and got this from them:

Rep. Doc Hastings (R-Wash.), chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, said he is concerned the plan will cost taxpayers millions of dollars.
“Expanding the Northern Spotted Owl’s critical habitat will further endanger the timber industry, the thousands of jobs that the industry supports, and forest health,” Hastings said.

Thanksgiving eve surprise: Feds to block off 9M acres for spotted owl - Conservative News

The northern spotted owl has been at the center of the Northwest's timber wars since it was listed as threatened in 1990 under the Endangered Species Act.

The listing better protected old-growth stands -- the owl's favored habitat -- but drove down logging on federal lands.Harvests in Oregon's federal forests totaled a half-billion board feet last year, down from 2.5 billion to 5 billion board feet in the
Timber industry groups warned the expanded critical habitat could dampen efforts to increase logging on BLM lands in southwest Oregon, where rural counties are banking on revenues from increased timber sales.

Obama administration increases 'critical habitat' for northern spotted owl | OregonLive.com

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I feel like there is more to this story, why would he double the initial plan?

You get a prize ...

9.6 Million Acres Protected as Critical Habitat for Northern Spotted Owls | Earthjustice

Decision reverses controversial Bush Administration cuts to habitat

Thank you Mr President.

 

[Two Thumbs]

the gifts just keep coming

SNIP:


11/21/2012 06:43 PM

RESIZE: AAA

The Obama administration announced with little fanfare Thanksgiving eve plans to lock up nine million acres of land for the endangered Northern Spotted Owl.


The plan would double the amount of public forest lands proposed by the Bush administration for the owl’s habitat in Oregon, Washington and Northern California, and is expected to severely limit commercial activities like logging.


Rep. Doc Hastings (R-Wash.), chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, said he is concerned the plan will cost taxpayers millions of dollars.


“Expanding the Northern Spotted Owl’s critical habitat will further endanger the timber industry, the thousands of jobs that the industry supports, and forest health,” Hastings said.

from
Thanksgiving eve surprise: Feds to block off 9M acres for spotted owl - Conservative News

So we spend money to kill oil jobs
spend money to almost create green jobs
spend money to kill coal jobs
spend money to kill logging
but b/c we spent money to save Detroit and the big 3

Obama is all good



not that any liberal cares that people will lose their jobs, their way of life, homes, health care, car, etc etc..

 

[Luddly Neddite]

BallsBrunswick

Lumber companies can still cut trees down in the area.

Oh PUH-lese - The last thing the Obama-haters want to read is FACTS.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

the gifts just keep coming

SNIP:


11/21/2012 06:43 PM

RESIZE: AAA

The Obama administration announced with little fanfare Thanksgiving eve plans to lock up nine million acres of land for the endangered Northern Spotted Owl.


The plan would double the amount of public forest lands proposed by the Bush administration for the owl’s habitat in Oregon, Washington and Northern California, and is expected to severely limit commercial activities like logging.


Rep. Doc Hastings (R-Wash.), chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, said he is concerned the plan will cost taxpayers millions of dollars.


“Expanding the Northern Spotted Owl’s critical habitat will further endanger the timber industry, the thousands of jobs that the industry supports, and forest health,” Hastings said.

from
Thanksgiving eve surprise: Feds to block off 9M acres for spotted owl - Conservative News

So we spend money to kill oil jobs
spend money to almost create green jobs
spend money to kill coal jobs
spend money to kill logging
but b/c we spent money to save Detroit and the big 3

Obama is all good



not that any liberal cares that people will lose their jobs, their way of life, homes, health care, car, etc etc..

Bull shit.

Obama has given out more drilling permits than any other prez. He has done nothing to slow coal production, nothing to slow logging. And, it was the pubpots who kiled green jobs.

And saving the "big 3" meant he saved millions of jobs across the United States.

What have the pubs done?

Nothing. Not a damn thing - except filitbuster and obstruct jobs.

 

[GuyPinestra]

BallsBrunswick

Lumber companies can still cut trees down in the area.

Oh PUH-lese - The last thing the Obama-haters want to read is FACTS.

Uh, not really... The regulations only allow 'thinning' for fire control, and loggers really can't make any money doing it. The costs of getting to the areas to cut gets prohibitive if you can only take 10% of the trees.

Fuck you guys are stupid!

The fucking owl is getting killed off by another owl, not because it is losing habitat!!

 

[Politico]

Cool. Less land for the human virus to destroy.

 

[Too Tall]

the gifts just keep coming

SNIP:


11/21/2012 06:43 PM

RESIZE: AAA

The Obama administration announced with little fanfare Thanksgiving eve plans to lock up nine million acres of land for the endangered Northern Spotted Owl.


The plan would double the amount of public forest lands proposed by the Bush administration for the owl’s habitat in Oregon, Washington and Northern California, and is expected to severely limit commercial activities like logging.


Rep. Doc Hastings (R-Wash.), chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, said he is concerned the plan will cost taxpayers millions of dollars.


“Expanding the Northern Spotted Owl’s critical habitat will further endanger the timber industry, the thousands of jobs that the industry supports, and forest health,” Hastings said.

from
Thanksgiving eve surprise: Feds to block off 9M acres for spotted owl - Conservative News

So we spend money to kill oil jobs
spend money to almost create green jobs
spend money to kill coal jobs
spend money to kill logging
but b/c we spent money to save Detroit and the big 3

Obama is all good



not that any liberal cares that people will lose their jobs, their way of life, homes, health care, car, etc etc..

Bull shit.

Obama has given out more drilling permits than any other prez. He has done nothing to slow coal production, nothing to slow logging. And, it was the pubpots who kiled green jobs.

And saving the "big 3" meant he saved millions of jobs across the United States.

What have the pubs done?

Nothing. Not a damn thing - except filitbuster and obstruct jobs.

Obama was wrong when he denied Romney’s claim that the Obama administration cut in half the number of new permits and new leases for offshore oil and gas drilling. The decrease is actually more than half.

FACTCHECK.ORG
Posted: Monday, October 22, 2012, 10:12 AM

 

[Too Tall]

the gifts just keep coming

SNIP:


11/21/2012 06:43 PM

RESIZE: AAA

The Obama administration announced with little fanfare Thanksgiving eve plans to lock up nine million acres of land for the endangered Northern Spotted Owl.


The plan would double the amount of public forest lands proposed by the Bush administration for the owl’s habitat in Oregon, Washington and Northern California, and is expected to severely limit commercial activities like logging.


Rep. Doc Hastings (R-Wash.), chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, said he is concerned the plan will cost taxpayers millions of dollars.


“Expanding the Northern Spotted Owl’s critical habitat will further endanger the timber industry, the thousands of jobs that the industry supports, and forest health,” Hastings said.

from
Thanksgiving eve surprise: Feds to block off 9M acres for spotted owl - Conservative News

So we spend money to kill oil jobs
spend money to almost create green jobs
spend money to kill coal jobs
spend money to kill logging
but b/c we spent money to save Detroit and the big 3

Obama is all good



not that any liberal cares that people will lose their jobs, their way of life, homes, health care, car, etc etc..

Bull shit.

Obama has given out more drilling permits than any other prez.He has done nothing to slow coal production,nothing to slow logging. And, it was the pubpots who kiled green jobs.

And saving the "big 3" meant he saved millions of jobs across the United States.

What have the pubs done?

Nothing. Not a damn thing - except filitbuster and obstruct jobs.

Obama was wrong when he denied Romney’s claim that the Obama administration cut in half the number of new permits and new leases for offshore oil and gas drilling. The decrease is actually more than half.

FACTCHECK.ORG
Posted: Monday, October 22, 2012, 10:12 AM

According to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration, U.S. coal production in the first half of 2012 is down 11 percent compared to the first half of 2007. More importantly, the war on coal is not about production alone. It is also important to consider the proposed federal regulations, which impact both the use and production of this vital energy resource. Here are just two of the regulations that affect coal:
New Source Performance Standards for greenhouse gas emissions from new coal-fired power plants and Mercury and Air Toxics Standards (MATS).

Obama's War on Coal Will Only Get Worse if He Is Re-Elected - On Energy (usnews.com)

 

[GuyPinestra]

the gifts just keep coming

SNIP:


11/21/2012 06:43 PM

RESIZE: AAA

The Obama administration announced with little fanfare Thanksgiving eve plans to lock up nine million acres of land for the endangered Northern Spotted Owl.


The plan would double the amount of public forest lands proposed by the Bush administration for the owl’s habitat in Oregon, Washington and Northern California, and is expected to severely limit commercial activities like logging.


Rep. Doc Hastings (R-Wash.), chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, said he is concerned the plan will cost taxpayers millions of dollars.


“Expanding the Northern Spotted Owl’s critical habitat will further endanger the timber industry, the thousands of jobs that the industry supports, and forest health,” Hastings said.

from
Thanksgiving eve surprise: Feds to block off 9M acres for spotted owl - Conservative News

So we spend money to kill oil jobs
spend money to almost create green jobs
spend money to kill coal jobs
spend money to kill logging
but b/c we spent money to save Detroit and the big 3

Obama is all good



not that any liberal cares that people will lose their jobs, their way of life, homes, health care, car, etc etc..

Bull shit.

Really?

Obama has given out more drilling permits than any other prez.

Link?

He has done nothing to slow coal production,

True, but his new regulations sure are slowing it's USE!

nothing to slow logging.

14,000 more square miles now off limits

And, it was the pubpots who kiled green jobs.

That's a fucking BIGGIE right there, Dudley! How could Republicans force Solyndra and Friends into bankruptcy?

And saving the "big 3" meant he saved millions of jobs across the United States.

Obama saved the UAW at the expense of bondholders and non-union workers. Chrysler is now owned by the Italians, GM is owned by the taxpayer and Ford took no money from the stimulus, making them the ONLY one to be in better shape now than when O'Bummer came into it.

What have the pubs done?

Warned you morons what would happen if you followed this Pied Piper of Chicago.

Nothing. Not a damn thing - except filitbuster and obstruct jobs.

Another whopper from the King...

 

[Two Thumbs]

the gifts just keep coming

SNIP:


11/21/2012 06:43 PM

RESIZE: AAA

The Obama administration announced with little fanfare Thanksgiving eve plans to lock up nine million acres of land for the endangered Northern Spotted Owl.


The plan would double the amount of public forest lands proposed by the Bush administration for the owl’s habitat in Oregon, Washington and Northern California, and is expected to severely limit commercial activities like logging.


Rep. Doc Hastings (R-Wash.), chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, said he is concerned the plan will cost taxpayers millions of dollars.


“Expanding the Northern Spotted Owl’s critical habitat will further endanger the timber industry, the thousands of jobs that the industry supports, and forest health,” Hastings said.

from
Thanksgiving eve surprise: Feds to block off 9M acres for spotted owl - Conservative News

So we spend money to kill oil jobs
spend money to almost create green jobs
spend money to kill coal jobs
spend money to kill logging
but b/c we spent money to save Detroit and the big 3

Obama is all good



not that any liberal cares that people will lose their jobs, their way of life, homes, health care, car, etc etc..

Bull shit.

Obama has given out more drilling permits than any other prez. He has done nothing to slow coal production, nothing to slow logging. And, it was the pubpots who kiled green jobs.

And saving the "big 3" meant he saved millions of jobs across the United States.

What have the pubs done?

Nothing. Not a damn thing - except filitbuster and obstruct jobs.

When big 0 took Ofc, gas was a buck eight, when he took Ofc again, it came down to three sixty.

So who's sticking it to who

 

[blastoff]

people need to contact your Representatives and tell them to start Representing the people AND stop this man and his comrades in arms administration..

Too bad Obama is not a communist, also the republicans can block it if they want too. Also Steph, your a fool.

Yeah, there's a lot of that going around.