Thank you, President Obama!

[Sundial]

What's amazing is that Obama's moved the country from losing 800,000 jobs a month when Bush (finally) left office to gaining 100,000+ per month, despite Republican obstructionism.

It's sad that Republicans can't see this for what it is - good news - but would rather see the economy in the gutter.

I wish they'd put partisanship aside, and get on board with making the country better for everyone.

I will give the Republicans credit.

A couple of them voted for the stimulus.

Mitt was for it, before he was against it.

 

[peach174]

You all said the same thing when temporary workers were hired during the census.
Let's see what the real numbers are after the Christmas season.
It's been pretty much at 9.0 to 9.2 for all three years.
Where are Republicans saying that this is not good and that they want the economy in the gutter.
Republicans want people to have full time jobs not part time temporary jobs.

 

[Intense]

Chapter I: Ignorance is Strength, and Chapter III: War is Peace of "the book" are titled with Party slogans; O’Brien later refers to chapters featuring a programme for deposing the Party. (Chapter II, presumably titled Freedom is Slavery after the remaining Party slogan, is not detailed in the novel.)
[edit] Chapter I

Ignorance is Strength details the perpetual class struggle characteristic of human societies;[3] beginning with the historical observation that societies always have hierarchically divided themselves into social classes and castes: the High (who rule); the Middle (who work for, and yearn to supplant the High), and the Low (whose goal is quotidian survival). Cyclically, the Middle deposed the High, by enlisting the Low. Upon assuming power, however, the Middle (the new High class) recast the Low into their usual servitude. In the event, the classes perpetually repeat the cycle, when the Middle class speaks to the Low class of "justice" and of "human brotherhood" in aid of becoming the High class rulers.

In the first half of the twentieth century, the power-seeking Middle class dispensed with the pretence of pursuing justice for everyone: "In each variant of Socialism that appeared from about 1900 onwards the aim of establishing liberty and equality was more and more openly abandoned. The new movements which appeared in the middle years of the century . . . had the conscious aim of perpetuating unfreedom and inequality"; because the true goal was to end history upon becoming the perpetual High ruling class — composed not of aristocrats or plutocrats, but of "bureaucrats, scientists, technicians, trade-union organisers, publicity experts, sociologists, teachers, journalists and professional politicians" originally from "the salaried middle class and the upper grades of the working class".

Moreover, by the mid-twentieth century, technology had rendered feasible a totalitarian society; electronic apparatuses, such as the telescreen (transceiving television) allowed continuous governmental espionage of the populace: "The possibility of enforcing not only complete obedience to the will of the State, but complete uniformity of opinion on all subjects, now existed for the first time". After the revolutionary period of the 1950s and the 1960s, society divided itself into the High (Inner Party), the Middle (Outer Party), and the Low (Proles); the first used technology to establish themselves as the perpetual ruling class. The Inner Party, collectively fixed their privileged command-status when the old-style Socialists failed to perceive that the Party’s assumption of societal command had only concentrated political power to fewer people than under the deposed capitalism. They believed that the abolishment of private property had established Socialism, when it, in fact, established economic inequality.

The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[PredFan]

Unemployment drops to 8.6%

Temporary retail help for Christmas. Wait until January rolls around and recheck the numbers.

THANK YOU!

Jesus how dense can these people be???

 

[Chris]

GDP has been growing since 2009.

The stock market has doubled since 2009.

Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.

Americans paid off $1 trillion dollars of personal debt in the last few years.

We are leaving Iraq, which will save us billions.

We are leaving Afghanistan in 2014, which will save us billions.

Auto sales are up 13.9%,

Pending home sales are up 10%,

Retail sales are up 16%

Unemployment is down to 8.6%

The deficit problem has been solved with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and the automatic spending cuts in 2013.

Bin Laden and Gaddafi are dead.

And it's all Obama's fault!

 

[kwc57]

Unemployment drops to 8.6%

Temporary retail help for Christmas. Wait until January rolls around and recheck the numbers.

THANK YOU!

Jesus how dense can these people be???

Well they elect liberal politicians, so consider the source.

 

[Sundial]

What's amazing is that Obama's moved the country from losing 800,000 jobs a month when Bush (finally) left office to gaining 100,000+ per month, despite Republican obstructionism.

It's sad that Republicans can't see this for what it is - good news - but would rather see the economy in the gutter.

I wish they'd put partisanship aside, and get on board with making the country better for everyone.

That WOULD be amazing if it were in any way true.

But, of course, it isn't true.*

So, it isn't actually "amazing."



____________________
* It would require that we all accept as true the proposition that the final four months of 2008, where the Bush Administration record WAS admittedly sullied by significant job loss, somehow justifies the unqualified sentence of the author, sundial. But that would be stupid. Overall, the AVERAGE job creation by month for the Bush Administration record was high. Such is not the case with the Obama Administration. Job Creation: Bush vs. Obama - By Veronique de Rugy - The Corner - National Review Online

 

[Liability]

What's amazing is that Obama's moved the country from losing 800,000 jobs a month when Bush (finally) left office to gaining 100,000+ per month, despite Republican obstructionism.

It's sad that Republicans can't see this for what it is - good news - but would rather see the economy in the gutter.

I wish they'd put partisanship aside, and get on board with making the country better for everyone.

That WOULD be amazing if it were in any way true.

But, of course, it isn't true.*

So, it isn't actually "amazing."



____________________
* It would require that we all accept as true the proposition that the final four months of 2008, where the Bush Administration record WAS admittedly sullied by significant job loss, somehow justifies the unqualified sentence of the author, sundial. But that would be stupid. Overall, the AVERAGE job creation by month for the Bush Administration record was high. Such is not the case with the Obama Administration. Job Creation: Bush vs. Obama - By Veronique de Rugy - The Corner - National Review Online

 

[Chris]

GDP has been growing since 2009.

The stock market has doubled since 2009.

Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.

Americans paid off $1 trillion dollars of personal debt in the last few years.

We are leaving Iraq, which will save us billions.

We are leaving Afghanistan in 2014, which will save us billions.

Auto sales are up 13.9%,

Pending home sales are up 10%,

Retail sales are up 16%

Unemployment is down to 8.6%

The deficit problem has been solved with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and the automatic spending cuts in 2013.

Bin Laden and Gaddafi are dead.

And it's all Obama's fault!

 

[Sundial]

That WOULD be amazing if it were in any way true.

But, of course, it isn't true.*

So, it isn't actually "amazing."



____________________
* It would require that we all accept as true the proposition that the final four months of 2008, where the Bush Administration record WAS admittedly sullied by significant job loss, somehow justifies the unqualified sentence of the author, sundial. But that would be stupid. Overall, the AVERAGE job creation by month for the Bush Administration record was high. Such is not the case with the Obama Administration. Job Creation: Bush vs. Obama - By Veronique de Rugy - The Corner - National Review Online

Over the course of 8 years, there was a net loss in private sector jobs under George W. Bush.

In the last three years, Obama started at -800,000, and we're now at 100,000+.

Those are the facts.

 

[Amelia]

All that matters is that the numbers sound good.

The actual percentage of Americans unemployed and underemployed? Unimportant. Skilfully massaged numbers = Obama reelection.




But on the bright side ... some people will be fooled by the numbers and will be willing to spend more and that could actually help the economy.

As opposed to how the Democrats and the media talked down the economy and encouraged contraction back in Bush's day when the numbers were actually still good.

Bottom line: Americans can be silly.



That is all.

 

[Caroljo]

What's amazing is that Obama's moved the country from losing 800,000 jobs a month when Bush (finally) left office to gaining 100,000+ per month, despite Republican obstructionism.

It's sad that Republicans can't see this for what it is - good news - but would rather see the economy in the gutter.

I wish they'd put partisanship aside, and get on board with making the country better for everyone.

I will give the Republicans credit.

A couple of them voted for the stimulus.

I remember one of them....Stupak from Michigan was bribed by Obama to vote for it. Obama made promises to him that he would sign an executive order to remove the federally paid abortion part from the bill. Then after Stupak agreed, Obama never followed through with the promise.

And....the unemployment numbers ARE good new. I just know it's not real and won't last long.

 

[Intense]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCDAfa-NI-M&feature=related]Curtis Mayfield - Pusherman - YouTube[/ame]
Curtis Mayfield - Pusherman

 

[Si modo]

Unemployment drops to 8.6%

Only because 300K+ of the unemployed were not counted this time. If we actually believe that 100K jobs were created, it's still a net loss.

 

[Intense]

Unemployment drops to 8.6%

Only because 300K+ of the unemployed were not counted this time. If we actually believe that 100K jobs were created, it's still a net loss.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__trdUTBUiE]Madtv - Math Made Easy - YouTube[/ame]

Madtv - Math Made Easy

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Small businesses and startups that were skittish about the economy this summer started hiring in bigger numbers this fall, helping drive the unemployment rate down to 8.6 percent in November, the lowest in two and a half years.

The country added 120,000 jobs last month, the Labor Department said Friday. The economy has generated 100,000 or more jobs five months in a row — the first time that has happened since April 2006, long before the Great Recession set in.

“Something good is stirring in the U.S. economy,” Ian Shepherdson, an economist at High Frequency Economics, said in a note to clients.

The unemployment report, one of the most closely watched economic indicators, showed that September and October were stronger months than first estimated. For four months in a row, the government has revised job growth figures higher.

Unemployment rate falls to 8.6 percent, lowest in 2½ years, as hiring improves - The Washington Post

Here's your problem Ravi - your not Truthmatters or RDean - so why pretend to be them?
I don't believe you are so stupid to believe the unemployment is 8.6% or even anywhere near that number. If TM or RD made this thread - they get a pass for being so stupid.
What is your excuse?

 

[Si modo]

Dayum, even NBC this morning reported that the numbers were a fail.

 

[JimH52]

I hate to tell you this GOP...but THE SKY IS FALLING! You better rethink your choice of Newt if you are serious about regaining the WH. He is a failed RINO.

 

[Si modo]

If folks still can't find jobs after looking for them for two years, unemployment will eventually get down to zero.

Woohoo?

 

[kwc57]

What's amazing is that Obama's moved the country from losing 800,000 jobs a month when Bush (finally) left office to gaining 100,000+ per month, despite Republican obstructionism.

It's sad that Republicans can't see this for what it is - good news - but would rather see the economy in the gutter.

I wish they'd put partisanship aside, and get on board with making the country better for everyone.

Bookmarked for future reference when the January numbers are released. Start collecting recipes for crow now.

We wish Obama and Reid would put partisanship aside, and get on board with making the country better for everyone. So far, they've failed over the last three years.