Texas Police Attack Children At Pool Party

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    Why did you post this if it doesn't matter what they said?
    (1) uses abusive, indecent, profane, or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;

    (Casebolt 1, Becton/Bakari 0)

    (2) makes an offensive gesture or display in a public place, and the gesture or display tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;
     
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    If Casebolt or any Officer gives you a lawful order to get on the ground it would be best that you do that like a number of the black teenagers did.. If you don't get on the ground, he is authorized to put you on the ground and hold you their until he feels it is safe to let you up..
     
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    The pivotal word in the above statement is, "lawful." Do you believe Casebolt's conduct in this example was lawful? Or do you think his actions were extreme and entirely uncalled for? And I'm talking about socially accepted standards of conduct, not the standard which seems to have evolved in the arbitrary credo of Ptl. Casebolt and a lot of cops who think the way he does.

    While it's possible Casebolt could manage to convince a judge or jury he actually felt threatened by that adolescent girl and it was therefore necessary to restrain her the way he did, I think you are sufficiently perceptive to know he either is lying, or he is much too paranoid and impulsive to be a police officer, or he has progressively acquired the orientation which has led to an increasing tendency on the part of cops to believe they know best how things should be done and public opinion be damned.
     
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    You should have stopped after the first 9 words. "Get on the ground" is a lawful order and it does mean within a reasonable amount of time.
     
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    Gentlemen don't order young girls in bikinis to get on the ground with their face in the dirt. Your defense of this ass hole.. is dumb.
     
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    And that scenario with the jury couldn't happen anyway, since Casebolt has already not only resigned but apologized for his actions. Pretty hard to backtrack that, not that he or anyone in their right mind would attempt to. Which makes it all the more bizarre to watch these authoritarian sycophants still hanging on desperately trying to defend an actor who's already confessed. That requires a leap out of the realm of reality altogether.

    Casebolt's issue wasn't telling her to get on the ground; it was going out to fetch her while she's already walking away following his own order, grabbing her by the hair and whipping her to the ground. These actions are precisely why wails of surprise and shock erupt from the onlookers exactly at that moment -- a collective disbelief that a uniformed police officer would act like that. Everyone could instantly see behaviour that was way out of line.

    Casebolt did too, once he got control of himself. Otherwise he'd have had no need to apologize. That apology is the elephant in the room for the sycophants still hanging on. To do that you have to completely suspend reality and declare the apology to be an Un-event that never happened.
     
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    Unless one is profoundly affected by authoritarian/submissive personality syndrome, the command to "Get on the ground!" is believed to be lawful only when circumstances call for such extreme measures.

    The common use of this extremely aggressive practice came about as the result of collective police union demands for radically increased methods of enhancing "officer safety," which became the imposingly primary concern of all police procedural training. The [/i]"Get in the ground!"[/i] command has evolved, as anyone who watches the the tv documentary series, COPS, knows, to the level where it clearly is used far more than is necessary. And very often it is used in a manner which is far more aggressive than necessary and frequently is employed in a manner which is excessive and is categorically brutal.
     
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    Again damn shame police will still protect you because you sure dont deserve it.
     
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    wow... yeah cause if I don't like people assaulting little girls I don't deserve to live... You're some piece of shit.
     
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    He didn't assault her you lying shitheel....
     

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