Texas Fracked Up by Fracking

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    La Niña Could Bring More Drought to Texas | KUT News

    After the brutal drought of 2011, welcome rains this year put minds at ease in many parts of Texas. But any respite may be short-lived.

    The best hope Texas had for a full recovery from its long drought was a wet upcoming winter. But recent weather models show that’s growing less and less likely. The reason? The El Niño weather pattern meteorologists expected is not forming in the Atlantic.



    5 Reasons Natural Gas Won’t Be an Environmental and Economic Savior | Alternet

    3. Water Consumption
    Fracking is water intensive. It can take anywhere from 2 million to 13 million gallons of water to frack a single well and more water is needed to drill the well. Additionally wells are often fracked multiple times, some times as many as 18 times. Where does all that water come from? The Pacific Institute reports:
    Water for hydraulic fracturing is typically withdrawn from one location or watershed over several days. Additionally, in some cases, the water is taken from “remote, often environmentally sensitive headwater areas” (Beauduy 2011, 34), where even small withdrawals can have a significant impact on the flow regime. As a result, while fracking may account for a small fraction of a state’s or even a basin’s water supply, there can be more severe local impacts.
    Additionally, much of the water injected underground is either not recovered or is unfit for further use once it is returned to the surface, usually requiring disposal in an underground injection well. This water use represents a “consumptive” use if it is not available for subsequent use within the basin from which it was extracted. In some cases, water is treated and reused for subsequent fracking jobs, although this is still fairly uncommon, and no national estimate on the prevalence of this practice is available.
    Already states like Texas and Pennsylvania have run into conflicts with fracking due to water shortages. And things are likely to get worse, as the Pacific Institute states, “In many basins, the application of fracking is still in its infancy and continued development could dramatically increase future water requirements and further intensify conflicts with other uses.”





    1,000 cities in Texas have water restrictions.
    Irony of ironies, Texas' Frackers will probably run out of water before they are able to extract every last ounce of gas and oil.
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    We're still ENSO neutral right now.

    There are a couple points I'd like to hit on. One involves the El Nino looking like it would develop and didn't. They claim that's the first time in history that happened and they still haven't figured that out.

    The other point is I understand fracking may use hydrocarbons similar to diesel fuel. My concept is once they drill a bore hole, they use pressure and solvents to loosen it up or get flow into the bore hole area.

    People are familiar with fracking for natural gas, but I understand it's being used for oil shales, too. Let's say I drill a bore hole in solid shale. With today's technology, we can bore a hole about 3 miles long without a problem and angle it to horizontal. So I opened up all that area, but sometimes the shale isn't solid. Let's say I put my chemicals and water to pressurize it and there is a leak. Sometimes the Earth underground is fractured. If I'm using something like diesel fuel, it has carcinogens in it and that could become a problem if fracking is done in the wrong area.

    I understand the water problem, but believe they should go to the Great Lakes or our rivers and solve it. We owe our people that much.

    I don't have the information on fracking yet. I think they have destroyed ground water, but it isn't conclusive, so I withhold my judgment. Energy is very important for a country and I don't want us importing energy from overseas. I want us making our own energy, but that doesn't mean hydrocarbons or coal are an answer to solve that problem.
     
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    Pa has LOTS of water,don't know about Texas,but the drillers in pa recycle most of the water used.

    You like a warm house ,clean safe food? affordable energy?
     
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    PA definitely has water.

    El nino happens in the Pacific Ocean.
     
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    Chimera Energy Develops Waterless Fracking Technique

    Chimera Energy Corporation of Houston, Texas, has announced that they are licensing a new method for extracting oil and gas from shale fields: waterless fracking.
     
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    Wellll PA is-----kinda, sorta attempting to recycle a portion of their fracking wastewater but-----but uh, not really...



    Pennsylvania Wastewater Disposal in 2011

    In Pennsylvania, a large amount of the state’s wastewater last year was released into bodies of water – including drinking water supplies – as a result of poor treatment practices. More than half of all fracking wastewater was sent to treatment plants – either industrial facilities or municipal sewage plants. Of this, about 10 percent – or about 84 million gallons – was sent to facilities that that the state has exempted from its most current water pollution limits, meaning it could be discharged with higher levels of contaminants than waste processed at updated plants.
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    Thanks for the report, I didn't know it was that bad.
     
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    And this is precisely how the drilling industry gets a bad reputation. Whomever makes the decisions on this, private or public, needs to be educated on the value of clean water. Or forced to drink what they allowed dumped into the public waters for the rest of their lives.
     
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    The progressive global warminists have been lying to us all these years?

    Say it ain't so.
     
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    Scientists have been warning about global warming and their predictions have come true. Conservatives cared about global warming, until the big corporations took control of their think tanks. There is the difference; I don't need a think tank telling me how or what to think.
     

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