Terrorists aren't a threat in the US! Nevah!

[Agnapostate]

I don't typically regard advocacy of border closure as being a "liberal" opinion, but hey, to each their own.

 

[KittenKoder]

I don't typically regard advocacy of border closure as being a "liberal" opinion, but hey, to each their own.

Everything someone disagrees with is liberal to a conservative like RGS.

 

[Paulie]

The only people who contest it are the ones who support the terrorists, either actually or by their undermining of the US.

You were making really good points with facts there, and then you had to go and say something stupid like this.

To accuse anyone who doesn't agree with waterboarding as terrorist supporters is fucking pathetic, baba. You know damn right well you don't really believe that.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

 

[Annie]

Like the Portland Seven, these five seem to have the same competancey level as Bush. They deserved the max sentences on the weopons charge, but obviously were a long ways from being a danger to the military. Look, it is not idiots like these that we need to fear, but the people that are carefully planning a real attack. Bush left the southern border wide open for years after 9-11. We do not know who or what has come across. Yes, we have to be constantly on the alert, not on vacation like Bush after recieving over 50 warnings, some specific as to the method of attack, in the summer of 2001, and ignoring them all. Went on vacation. Then came 9-11.

The story for you is always the same, I guess that's the 'Old' part:

Fort Dix Jihad: The Media Misses the Point by Andrew C. McCarthy on National Review Online

May 09, 2007, 0:14 a.m.

Fort Dix Jihad: The Media Misses the Point
It’s not about the organization, it’s the ideology.

By Andrew C. McCarthy

The mainstream media is atwitter this morning over the six Muslim men arrested in south Jersey for conspiring “to kill as many soldiers as possible” at the Fort Dix U.S. army base. The case, they tell us, reflects the new terrorism: inept, atomized cells, disconnected from al Qaeda or any other regimented international terrorist organization.
Here’s the template setter, the New York Times: “The authorities described the suspects as Islamic extremists and said they represented the newest breed of threat: loosely organized domestic militants unconnected to — but inspired by — al Qaeda or other international terror groups.”

The Washington Post echoes:

[The group] … was portrayed as a leaderless, homegrown cell of immigrants from Jordan, Turkey and the former Yugoslavia who came together because of a shared infatuation with Internet images of jihad, or holy war. Authorities said the group has no apparent connection to al-Qaeda or other international terrorist organizations aside from ideology, but appears to be an example of the kind of self-directed sympathizers widely predicted — and feared — by counterterrorism specialists. The defendants allegedly passed around and copied images of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and the martyrdom videos of two of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers.
Meet the new terrorism. Same as the old terrorism.

In 1993, Mohammed Salameh, a Palestinian immigrant who was a member of no known foreign terrorist organization, helped bomb the World Trade Center. The attack was carried out by a homegrown jihadist cell that was formed in the late 1980s. The group was inspired by the fiery cleric, Omar Abdel Rahman (the Blind Sheikh). Though Sheikh Abdel Rahman was the head of an Egyptian terrorist organization, Gama’at al Islamia (the Islamic Group), the American cell was not a Gama’at operation. It was a motley crew of Egyptians, Palestinians, Pakistanis, Iraqis, Sudanese, and others. What bound them together was ideology — not connection to a particular organization.

That ideologically inspired cell had already claimed some victims. In 1990, Salameh’s cohort, a naturalized American citizen from Egypt named El Sayyid Nosair, murdered Rabbi Meir Kahane (founder of the Jewish Defense League) at a hotel in New York City, shooting and wounding a 70-year-old man and a postal police officer as he attempted to flee. Nosair, who had helped organize the paramilitary training, was a ne’er-do-well who kept recordings and notes of jihadist preaching in his home.

Salameh, meanwhile, turned out not to be the sharpest tool in the shed — reminiscent of this morning’s media depiction of the Fort Dix plotters. He was arrested largely because, after using a rental van to house and transport the bomb into the bowels of the Twin Towers, he figured — even as his co-conspirators fled the country — that it would be a good idea to try to get his deposit back. Investigators, furthermore, found that Salameh and his confederates seemed, at times, to be Keystone terrorists, storing nitroglycerine in a refrigerator, amateurishly mixing chemicals, getting involved in traffic mishaps. None of the ineptitude, however, left the World Trade Center any less bombed or the victims any less dead.

It is often assumed, incorrectly, that the ’93 bombing was an al Qaeda initiative because its prime-mover, Ramzi Yousef, had trained in al Qaeda camps. But thousands of young Muslim men have been through the rigors of those camps; the vast majority never formally joins al Qaeda. The issue is not, and has never been, membership in an organization. The point is that those who attend the camps are in a process of being catalyzed by jihadist ideology. In any event, it is far from certain that Yousef was ever a formal member of al Qaeda. Even if he had been, the al Qaeda that existed in 1993 was a different and much less capable entity than the organization that carried out the 1998 embassy bombings, and, as noted above, the other conspirators were not al Qaeda operatives..../QUOTE]

 

[editec]

I have absolutely no doubt that there are many people, some of the Islamic terrorists who would topple our government if they could, and who would use terror tactics to make that happen

I have absolutely no doubt there are people writing on this board who would ALSO topple this government if they could, and who would either do or approve of those who would use terror tactics to make that happen, either.

All that proves is that there are nutters living among us.

Who ever doubted that?