Terrorist Are Crossing Our Southern Border On A Daily Basis!

[Sunni Man]

Remember they've caught more than 10,000 illegals from terrorist countries trying to cross our southern border, how many didn't they catch?

Who are these terrorist countries?

 

[Zoom-boing]

Never worked for the government did you? They don't tell us everything and they sure as heck aren't going to go public with the fact that so many suitcase nukes are missing.

With our southern border so porous that thousands are crossing everyday without getting caught, it's very easy for some of them to have gotten into this country. Remember they've caught more than 10,000 illegals from terrorist countries trying to cross our southern border, how many didn't they catch?

Listen to some talk shows, watch some msm, even they have admitted that this is a concern.

The stuff people read about or hear on the news as far as terrorism goes . . . just droplets. And it should stay that way. The gov't blows enough hot air as it is.

 

[Sovereignty]

Excerpts:

Illegal Aliens Found Guilty Of Conspiring, Plotting to Kill, Facilitate Violent Jihad, Planting Explosives, Exporting Defense Articles...

Source: ( for all articles below)
National Security Division Progress Report
United States Department of Justice
April 2008
http://www.justice.gov/nsd/docs/2008/nsd-progress-rpt-2008.pdf

Page 49, N.Y., illegal aliens from Guyana
Four Charged in Plot to Bomb John F. Kennedy International Airport

June 2, 2007: Four individuals are charged in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York with conspiring to attack John F. Kennedy International Airport by planting explosives to blow up the airport’s major jet-fuel supply tanks and pipeline. Agents from the FBI arrested one of the defendants, former airport employee Russell Defreitas, a United States citizen and native of Guyana, in Brooklyn, New York. Abdul Kadir, a citizen of Guyana who had served as a member of the Guyanese Parliament, and Kareem Ibrahim and Abdel Nur, citizens of Trinidad, are in custody in Trinidad. They have appealed their order of extradition to the United States. A six-count indictment charges the four defendants with various conspiracies: to attack a public transportation system, to destroy buildings by fire or explosives, to attack aircraft and aircraft materials, to destroy international airport facilities, and to attack a mass transportation facility.

Page 51, FL, illegal aliens, Venezuelans & Uruguayans
Five Charged With Being Illegal Agents of Foreign Government

December 20, 2007: Four Venezuelans and a Uruguayan national are indicted in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida on charges of acting and conspiring to act as agents of the Venezuelan government within the United States without prior notification to the U.S. Attorney General. Moises Maionica, Rodolfo Wanseele Paciello, Franklin Duran, and Carlos Kauffman were initially arrested on a criminal complaint. Defendant Antonio Jose Canchica Gomez, however, remains at large. According to the indictment, the defendants coordinated and participated in a series of meetings in South Florida with Guido Alejandro Antonini Wilson to procure his help in concealing the source of funds and the role of the government of Venezuela in the intended delivery of an $800,000 cash contribution confiscated in Argentina. In August 2007, Argentine authorities seized the $800,000 in cash from luggage in Antonini’s possession as he arrived in Argentina on a flight from Venezuela with several others. Antonini later returned to his home in South Florida, where according to the indictment, he was threatened by the defendants. On March 3, 2008, Kauffman pleaded guilty to conspiring to act as an unregistered Venezuelan agent. On January 25, 2008, Maionica pleaded guilty to acting and conspiring to act as an unregistered Venezuelan agent. Kauffman and Maionica have not yet been sentenced.

Page 53, N.Y., illegal alien
Korean Man Convicted of Being Iraqi Agent in Creation of Oil-for-Food Program

February 22, 2007: Tongsun Park, a citizen of the Republic of Korea, is sentenced in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York to five years imprisonment for conspiring to act as an unregistered agent of the Iraqi government, in particular, assisting the former Iraqi government with respect to the creation of the United Nations Oil-for-Food Program. He is also ordered to forfeit $1.2 million to the United States and pay a fine of $15,000. Park was found guilty by a federal jury on July 13, 2006. Evidence at trial established that, beginning in October 2002, Park and another individual agreed to work together on behalf of Saddam Hussein’s regime to promote the lifting of the international economic sanctions that had been placed on that regime after the invasion of Kuwait in 1990. These efforts ultimately led to the adoption of the United Nations Oil-for-Food Program, which allowed Iraq to
sell limited quantities of oil and use the proceeds to purchase humanitarian goods. Park received at least $2 million in cash from the Iraqi government for his efforts. At no time during these activities had Park registered with the U.S. Attorney General as an agent of Iraq.

Page 54, CA. illegal alien
U.S. Navy Warship Technology to China

March 24, 2008: Chi Mak, a former engineer for defense contractor Power Paragon, is sentenced in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California to 293 months (more than 24 years) in prison for orchestrating a conspiracy to obtain U.S. Navy warship technology and to illegally export this material to the People’s Republic of China (PRC). Mak was found guilty at trial in May 2007 of conspiracy, two counts of attempting to violate export control laws, acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government and making false statements. The investigation revealed that Mak had been given “tasking” lists from the PRC that requested specific defense information, including U.S. Navy research related to nuclear-powered submarines and other data. Mak gathered technical data about the Navy’s current and future warship technology and conspired with others to illegally export this data to the PRC. After Mak was convicted at trial, his four co-conspirators pleaded guilty. Chi Mak’s brother, Tai Mak, and Chi Mak’s wife, Rebecca Chiu, are scheduled to be sentenced in April and May 2008, respectively. Chi Mak’s sister-in-law, Fuk Li, and nephew, Billy Mak, were previously sentenced to time served and face deportation to China.

Page 56, N.J., illegal alien
Military Night Vision Technology to China

October 31, 2007: Bing Xu, of Nanjing, China, is charged by criminal complaint in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey with attempting to illegally export military-grade night vision technology from the United States to the People’s Republic of China. According to court documents, Xu arrived in the United States from China to pick up the technology a day after his Chinese employer wired $14,080 to undercover federal agents as payment for the purchase of the restricted equipment.

Page 56, Wisconsin, illegal alien
Assault Weapon Scopes to Indonesia

October 11, 2007: Doli Syarief Pulungan, an Indonesian citizen, is indicted in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Wisconsin for conspiracy to export from the United States to Indonesia defense articles without having obtained from the U.S. State Department the required license or written authorization for such export. Pulungan is charged with conspiracy to export 100 Leupold Mark 5 CQ-T Riflescopes for M-16 rifles to Indonesia. He is also charged with making a false statement to the FBI.

Page 45, N.Y. Terrorist Camps in Bly, Oregon
Ujaama Pleads Guilty to Material Support to Terrorists

August 13, 2007: Earnest James Ujaama, an associate of radical British Islamic leader Abu Hamza Al-Masri, pleads guilty in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York to providing and conspiring to provide material support to terrorists arising from efforts to establish a jihad training camp in Bly, Oregon, and his efforts to facilitate violent jihad in Afghanistan. Ujaama also pleads guilty to one count of unlawful flight to avoid giving testimony, stemming from his previously fleeing to Belize in order to avoid giving testimony in this matter. Ujaama was arrested in Belize, and returned to the United States to face a violation of his supervised release and the additional charges to which he pleaded guilty. Ujaama faces up to 30 years in prison. He has not yet been sentenced.

Page 13, N.J., Penn., illegal aliens
Radicalization in the United States: The Plot to Attack Soldiers at Fort Dix,

New Jersey In May 2007, five individuals were arrested and charged with plotting to kill soldiers at the Fort Dix Army Base in New Jersey. A sixth defendant was charged with aiding and abetting the illegal possession of firearms by members of the group. The defendants were foreign-born residents of New Jersey and Pennsylvania. According to criminal complaints filed in the case, members of the group had been plotting an attack against Fort Dix since January 2006, and two were arrested as they met a confidential government witness to purchase AK-47 and M-16 assault rifles for the attack. Some of the individuals had conducted surveillance of Fort Dix as well as Fort Monmouth in New Jersey, Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, and the U.S. Coast Guard Station in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The co-conspirators had also allegedly conducted small arms training in rural Pennsylvania and distributed terrorist training videos amongst themselves.

 

[Sunni Man]

Excerpts:

Illegal Aliens Found Guilty Of Treason

How can an illegal allein be charged with treason?

 

[Sovereignty]

I made the correction and deleted Treason. I originally was going to make a post about legal immigrants and illegal aliens but it would have been pages and pages! They're Baaad people!

The "Nazi Troll Patrol Police" (NTPP) would have surely jump right on that mistake. LMAO!

 

[dilloduck]

Seems like if illegal immigration is EVER going to be dealt with, now is the time.
No imminent elections---don't hold your breath however.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Why doesn't Obama implement an FDR-like plan and build a huge electrified barrier across the whole border? He could tackle two problems at once - jobs and illegals.

 

[dilloduck]

Why doesn't Obama implement an FDR-like plan and build a huge electrified barrier across the whole border? He could tackle two problems at once - jobs and illegals.

too bold

 

[Zoom-boing]

too bold

So change is . . . . 'just words'?

 

[dilloduck]

So change is . . . . 'just words'?

That seems to be the common consensus here. Just do some housecleaning and not do anything that might be controversial or get someone upset.

 

[Zoom-boing]

That seems to be the common consensus here. Just do some housecleaning and not do anything that might be controversial or get someone upset.

Mind-boggling, isn't it? Politicians really are all the same.

 

[dilloduck]

Mind-boggling, isn't it? Politicians really are all the same.

Afraid so---power, fame and glory. It's all about them.

 

[Sovereignty]

Who are these terrorist countries?

Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTO)
There are currently 44 organizations on the list. To see the list click on the link.

SOURCE:
U.S. Department of State
Foreign Terrorist Organizations

Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) are foreign organizations that are designated by the Secretary of State in accordance with section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), as amended. FTO designations play a critical role in our fight against terrorism and are an effective means of curtailing support for terrorist activities and pressuring groups to get out of the terrorism business.

 

[Sunni Man]

Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTO)
There are currently 44 organizations on the list. To see the list click on the link.

SOURCE:
U.S. Department of State
Foreign Terrorist Organizations

Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) are foreign organizations that are designated by the Secretary of State in accordance with section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), as amended. FTO designations play a critical role in our fight against terrorism and are an effective means of curtailing support for terrorist activities and pressuring groups to get out of the terrorism business.

You origionally said terrorist countries

Now you are just listing so called terrorist organizations not countries.

 

[editec]

Only here I have to put up with this sorry bunch of braindead super patriotic american clowns who spend their entire lives devising different ways to scapegoat a foreign country so they don't have to reach the OBVIOUS conclusion that America's immigration problems is nothing more than a gigantic case of dereliction of duty on the part of the US government.

Ya' got that right.

 

[Sovereignty]

You origionally said terrorist countries

Now you are just listing so called terrorist organizations not countries.

Maybe, I should have said “Special Interest Countries”. That term is deemed by the Federal Government. I interpreted that as meaning Terrorist Countries. You have to admit that no country in the Middle East likes us very much. Some countries have voiced their wish to do us harm, they teach their children in grade school Anti-American chants and teach hatred towards Americans. The point is that terrorist are crossing the borders and we need to stop them!

SOURCE:
A Line In The Sand
Dept. Of Homeland Security

Page 2-3
http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

"Special interest countries are those “designated by the intelligence community as countries that could export individuals that could bring harm to our country in the way of terrorism.”"

 

[Sunni Man]

Maybe, I should have said “Special Interest Countries”. That term is deemed by the Federal Government. I interpreted that as meaning Terrorist Countries. You have to admit that no country in the Middle East likes us very much. Some countries have voiced their wish to do us harm, they teach their children in grade school Anti-American chants and teach hatred towards Americans.

The people in most Middle East countries really like the American people.

It's the U.S. government that they have a problem with.

Mainly because the U.S. government provides money and weapons to various dictators. Who in turn, use these assests to suppress their people.

All any despot has to say is that he wants to fight terror and the money and weapons come pouring in. Forget his record on human rights or allowing a democratic movement.

 

[Sovereignty]

The people in most Middle East countries really like the American people.

It's the U.S. government that they have a problem with.

Mainly because the U.S. government provides money and weapons to various dictators. Who in turn, use these assests to suppress their people.

All any despot has to say is that he wants to fight terror and the money and weapons come pouring in. Forget his record on human rights or allowing a democratic movement.

If you’re an American it probably wouldn’t be a good idea to go on vacation to any Middle Eastern country right now. When people are chanting “Death to America”, I take offense to that because I take that to mean Death to Americans. Otherwise, I agree with your response.

 

[José]

Originally posted by editec
Ya' got that right.

You don’t know half the story, editec.

If you had followed the debates that took place here 2, 3 months before you joined the board you’d think Mexican troops were occupying Washington D.C..

Just a small example of the “suggestions” I used to hear before you joined the board:

“We need to declare war on Mexico”.

What kind of moronic idea is that?

Illegal immigrants would be the first ones to thank God if thousands of american troops occupied Mexico City (once again) instead of patrolling the border!!

If America’s immigration problems are to be solved through violence then I would suggest a new american Civil War since the only ones preventing a new, thougher immigration policy from being enacted are american citizens themselves!

America’s middle class and blue collar workers allied with white supremacists VERSUS corporate America, politicians and hispanic americans.

This war would at least make some sense and maybe it would solve the problem once and for all.

 

[José]

But I guess the temptation to blame "the other guy" is just too great.