Terror Expert: London Bombings Mastermind is MI6 Asset

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    Combine this developlent with the report from the BBC about the drills taking place at exactly the same locations as the real bombs, at exactly the same time, and we are getting an ugly picture of state sponsored terrorism. The drills apparently served as cover for the operatives, if they were found? plausible deniability, "oh, we were just taking part of a drill".

    This reminds me of the drills taking place on 9/11 that the CIA was running of flying planes into buildings, along with the 5+ other drills that were taking place on September 11th involving hijacked aircraft. These things do not happen by accident, this is not incompetence, this is by design.

    There is a drill getting ready to take place sometime this month, August, involving a nuclear device being detonated in the US.

    http://www.northcom.mil/index.cfm?f...y&storyid=C9BFBBAC-F3CA-BD2E-008C7B34AFE33114



    Other strange stories concerning the London bombings...

    "I was in tube bomb carriage - and survived"

    http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/region_wide/2005/07/11/83e33146-09af-4421-b2f4-1779a86926f9.lpf

    "The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bomb was'. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don't remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag," he said.


    Probability of 7/7 Drill and Attack Coinciding

    One chance in 3,715,592,613, 265,750, 000,000,000,000,000,000, 000,000


    Suicide bombers?

    London bombers may have been tricked into setting off bombs: Police

    http://www.gg2.net/printArticle.asp?nid=732&tid=top_headlines

    EXCLUSIVE: WAS IT SUICIDE?

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obj...4762&headline=was-it-suicide---name_page.html


    Terror Expert: London Bombings Mastermind is MI6 Asset

    FULL TRANSCRIPT: The July 29 edition of FOX News Channel's Day Side programme:

    MIKE JERRICK [FOX NEWS]: John Loftus is a terrorism expert and a former prosecutor for the Justice Department. John, good to see you again. So real quickly here, have you heard anything about this Osman Hussain who was just picked up in Rome? You know that name at all?

    JOHN LOFTUS: Yeah, all these guys should be going back to an organization called Al-Muhajiroun, which means The Emigrants. It was the recruiting arm of Al-Qaeda in London; they specialized in recruiting kids whose families had emigrated to Britain but who had British passports. And they would use them for terrorist work.

    JERRICK: So a couple of them now have Somali connections?

    LOFTUS: Yeah, it was not unusual. Somalia, Eritrea, the first group of course were primarily Pakistani. But what they had in common was they were all emigrant groups in Britain, recruited by this Al-Muhajiroun group. They were headed by the, Captain Hook, the imam in London the Finsbury Mosque, without the arm. He was the head of that organization. Now his assistant was a guy named Aswat, Haroon Rashid Aswat.

    JERRICK: Aswat, who they picked up.

    LOFTUS: Right, Aswat is believed to be the mastermind of all the bombings in London.

    JERRICK: On 7/7 and 7/21, this is the guy we think.

    LOFTUS: This is the guy, and what's really embarrassing is that the entire British police are out chasing him, and one wing of the British government, MI6 or the British Secret Service, has been hiding him. And this has been a real source of contention between the CIA, the Justice Department, and Britain.

    JERRICK: MI6 has been hiding him. Are you saying that he has been working for them?

    LOFTUS: Oh I'm not saying it. This is what the Muslim sheik said in an interview in a British newspaper back in 2001.

    JERRICK: So he's a double agent, or was?

    LOFTUS: He's a double agent.

    JERRICK: So he's working for the Brits to try to give them information about Al-Qaeda, but in reality he's still an Al-Qaeda operative.

    LOFTUS: Yeah. The CIA and the Israelis all accused MI6 of letting all these terrorists live in London not because they're getting Al-Qaeda information, but for appeasement. It was one of those you leave us alone, we leave you alone kind of things.

    JERRICK: Well we left him alone too long then.

    LOFTUS: Absolutely. Now we knew about this guy Aswat. Back in 1999 he came to America. The Justice Department wanted to indict him in Seattle because him and his buddy were trying to set up a terrorist training school in Oregon.

    JERRICK: So they indicted his buddy, right? But why didn't they indict him?

    LOFTUS: Well it comes out, we've just learned that the headquarters of the US Justice Department ordered the Seattle prosecutors not to touch Aswat.

    JERRICK: Hello? Now hold on, why?

    LOFTUS: Well, apparently Aswat was working for British intelligence. Now Aswat's boss, the one-armed Captain Hook, he gets indicted two years later. So the guy above him and below him get indicted, but not Aswat. Now there's a split of opinion within US intelligence. Some people say that the British intelligence fibbed to us. They told us that Aswat was dead, and that's why the New York group dropped the case. That's not what most of the Justice Department thinks. They think that it was just again covering up for this very publicly affiliated guy with Al-Muhajiroun. He was a British intelligence plant. So all of a sudden he disappears. He's in South Africa. We think he's dead; we don't know he's down there. Last month the South African Secret Service come across the guy. He's alive.

    JERRICK: Yeah, now the CIA says, oh he's alive. Our CIA says OK let's arrest him. But the Brits say no again?

    LOTFUS: The Brits say no. Now at this point, two weeks ago, the Brits know that the CIA wants to get a hold of Haroon. So what happens? He takes off again, goes right to London. He isn't arrested when he lands, he isn't arrested when he leaves.

    JERRICK: Even though he's on a watch list.

    LOFTUS: He's on the watch list.The only reason he could get away with that was if he was working for British intelligence. He was a wanted man.

    JERRICK: And then takes off the day before the bombings, I understand it--

    LOFTUS: And goes to Pakistan.

    JERRICK: And Pakistan, they jail him.

    LOFTUS: The Pakistanis arrest him. They jail him. He's released within 24 hours. Back to Southern Africa, goes to Zimbabwe and is arrested in Zambia. Now the US--

    JERRICK: Trying to get across the--

    LOFTUS: --we're trying to get our hands on this guy.

    JERRICK: John, hang around. I have so many questions now.

    LOFTUS: Oh, this is a bad one....
     
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    Don't feed the trolls? Are you afraid to talk about this? or just have no interest in discussing it.
     
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    Just no interest in conspiracy theories...
     
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    This is not a conspiracy theory, these are a string of facts being presented that point to very suspicious activities on part of the MI6 and the British government.
     
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    It's a string of facts with several interpretations. This one fails to address a key element, motive. Why would the British government bomb its own infastructure?

    You sound like those nuts who claim a missile hit the pentagon and that the first WTC plane was a cargo plane. Lose the tinfoil and join the real world.

    :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:
     
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    Being a bit disingenuous:

     
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    So if terrorists should attack the U.S. with a nuclear device sometime in the near future - we are to believe that it really wasn't terrorists; it was our own country.

    Is that it?
     
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    Well, the timing of the bombings tie right in with the motive, Hobbit. The legislation coming through in the aftermath points to a motive as well my friend, it is a very sad circumstance that governments stand to gain from terrorism. I absolutely hate to say that, but it has proven true over and over again throughout history. Hitler burning his parliment building and implimenting a police state totalitarian rule provides a very good example of this tactic of order out of chaos, carrying out attacks and blaming them on your political enemies, furthuring your agendas. Just look at the UK, they have over 4 MILLION operational surveillance cameras, but they still get attacked. This shows that just as Ben Franklin told us, giving up liberty for security gives you neither!.

    Operation Gladio, carried out by the CIA along with foreign intelligence agencies throughout the 70's and 80's killed hundreds of innocent people in Europe. Just read what Gladio has to say ''You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security." Look up Operation Northwoods, look up Operation gladio, find out for yourself. I have never said anything about a missile hitting the pentagon or a cargo plane hitting the WTC, those things simply cannot be backed up. What i am talking about, however, can be with voluminous ammounts of evidence.
     
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    Yawn.

    You didn't answer my question.
     
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