Terror attack: US bombs civilian hospital

[Preacher]

Terrorist attack: United States bombs civilian hospital in Afghanistan - Hang The Bankers

PressTV-‘In Kunduz, patients were burned to death’

Should be charged with murder.

 

[waltky]

Taliban Firing from Hospital questioned...

Aid Group Denies Taliban Firing from Hospital Hit During Airstrike
Oct 04, 2015 | Medical aid group Medecins Sans Frontieres denied that Taliban fighters were firing from its hospital at Afghan and NATO forces before a suspected U.S. air strike killed at least 19 people in a battle to oust the Islamist insurgents from an Afghan city. The northern city of Kunduz has been the scene of fierce fighting since the Taliban captured it almost a week ago. Afghan security forces fought their way into Kunduz four days ago, but battles continue in many places.

The aid group has said an air strike, probably carried out by U.S.-led coalition forces, killed 19 staff and patients on Saturday in a hospital it runs in Kunduz, leaving 37 wounded. The U.S. military said it conducted an air strike "in the vicinity" of the hospital, as it targeted Taliban insurgents who were directly firing on U.S. military personnel. The U.S. government promised a full investigation into the incident as the U.N. human rights chief said the bombing could amount to a war crime. In a statement, President Barack Obama offered condolences to the victims of what he called "the tragic incident." In Kabul, the Afghan Ministry of Defence said Taliban fighters had attacked the hospital and were using the building "as a human shield".

But the medical aid group denied this. "The gates of the hospital compound were closed all night so no one that is not staff, a patient or a caretaker was inside the hospital when the bombing happened," Medecins Sans Frontieres said in a statement on Sunday. Witnesses said patients were burned alive in the crowded hospital after the airstrike in the early hours of Saturday. Among the dead were three children being treated. Frantic MSF staff telephoned military officials at NATO in Kabul and Washington after the attack, but bombs continued to rain down for nearly an hour, one official of the group said.

Taliban fighters in Kunduz were still holding out against Afghan troops on Sunday, despite government claims to have taken control of the area. "Our understanding is that the whole area is still contested," said a coalition military official in Kabul, who asked not to be named. Corpses lie in the streets and people are too afraid to leave their homes, said one resident, Gulboddin. "You can hear the sound of gun fire all over the city," said Gulboddin, who has only one name. "Some of the bodies are decomposing." Hospitals running out of medicine are struggling to treat growing numbers of patients, said Sayed Mukhtar, a public health official. "There is no electricity and hospital laboratories are not working," Mukhtar said. "This city is no longer for living."

Aid Group Denies Taliban Firing from Hospital Hit During Airstrike | Military.com

 

[Two Thumbs]

not an actual hospital.

sad that it happened, and I'm shocked that a site called "hang the bankers" would lie.














not really shocked, no one, with an IQ about dirt would think they wouldn't lie.

 

[Claudette]

I cannot tell you how much I don't give a shit.

 

[bedowin62]

rabid racist left-wing nutjobs dont know the difference between an accident and an actual terrorist attack

who is suprised?

 

[waltky]

Oops, sorry for all those patients we burned to death in their hospital beds...

President Obama apologizes to MSF for Kunduz attack
Thursday 8th October, 2015 | WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama Wednesday apologized to Medecins Sans Frontieres, or Doctors Without Borders, for the deadly bombing of its medical facility in Kunduz, Afghanistan, assuring a "transparent, thorough and objective accounting" of what the aid agency calls a "war crime".

"President Obama spoke by telephone with Doctors Without Borders International President Dr. Joanne Liu, to apologize and express his condolences for the MSF staff and patients who were killed and injured when a US military airstrike mistakenly struck an MSF field hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan over the weekend," White House press secretary Josh Earnest said in the White House briefing. Earnest was asked whether Obama offered some explanation to Liu. He said "no" explanation was given. "He merely offered his heartfelt apology" and a commitment to find out what went wrong, the spokesman said.

MSF said that an independent humanitarian commission created under the Geneva Conventions in 1991 should be activated for the first time to handle the inquiry. Three investigations have already begun into Saturday's air strike that killed 22 people, including 12 MSF staff. Earnest said the president told Liu that a US investigation would "provide a transparent, thorough and objective accounting of the facts and circumstances of the incident. And that, if necessary, the president would implement changes to make tragedies like this one less likely to occur in the future."

Earlier on Wednesday, MSF demanded that an independent humanitarian commission created under the Geneva Conventions in 1991 should be activated to handle the inquiry. Three investigations have already begun into Saturday's air strike. MSF said that the commission's inquiry would gather facts and evidence from the United States, NATO and Afghanistan, as well as testimony from MSF staff and patients who survived. Only then would MSF consider whether to bring criminal charges for loss of life and partial destruction of its trauma hospital, which has left tens of thousands of Afghans without access to health care, it said.

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[9thIDdoc]

Seems to me that those folks who are the quickest to excuse terror tactics as a valid method of warfare are also the first to condemn the US for using what is claimed to be such tactics.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Casualties of war.

Get a grip losers

 

[longknife]

Everyone Screams About US Bombing Afghan Hospital …



Why aren't they screaming about this?



ISIS Just Slaughtered 150 Females – for refusing to marry or perform sexual acts with members of the group.



The (Iraqi) ministry stated: “At least 150 females, including pregnant women, were executed in Fallujah by a militant named Abu Anas Al-Libi after they refused to accept jihad marriage.”



Read more @ The Reason ISIS Just Slaughtered 150 Females Couldn't Be More Despicable

 

[Jarlaxle]

Should have used a nuke.

 

[longknife]

And it wasn't a bomb. It was a C-130 with Gatling guns and rockets.

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - now dey gonna get to the bottom of it...

Fact-finding group ready to probe deadly Kunduz airstrike
Oct 14,`15 -- The International Humanitarian Fact-Finding Commission has told the U.S. and Afghan governments it's ready to investigate deadly U.S. airstrikes on a Doctors Without Borders hospital in northern Afghanistan - if they agree.

The IHFFC said Wednesday it has "proposed its services" to the countries after the repeated U.S. airstrikes Oct. 3 that devastated the hospital in the city of Kunduz, killing 12 staffers of medical aid group Doctors Without Borders and 10 patients amid fighting between Afghan forces and Taliban rebels. U.S. officials have insisted the strikes were a mistake, and President Barack Obama has apologized to Doctors Without Borders' international president. Acting "on its own initiative", the IHFFC said it sent identical letters on the issue to the governments on Oct. 7. The intergovernmental body, based in Bern and set up under an annex of the Geneva Convention, can only launch a mission if authorized by the concerned state or states. Created after the Gulf War in 1991, it has never deployed one. The U.S. has vowed to conduct an investigation, but says an international probe is not needed. Afghan authorities are also investigating.

Thilo Marauhn, a law professor at Germany's University of Giessen and commission first vice president, said: "It's not our job to tell states what to do." "We are not pressuring them, but we are inviting them" to accept, he said, before adding: "It would be fairly easy for the U.S. to say, 'We are the good guys, and we authorize this impartial, independent institution to conduct an inquiry' ... The U.S. could basically position itself as a country that promotes compliance with (international humanitarian law)." White House press secretary Josh Earnest said the U.S. Department of Defense is investigating the incident and that Obama has informed the chain of command that he expects a "thorough, objective and transparent review to be conducted." "The administration has confidence that the investigation that's currently under way by the Department of Defense will provide the full accounting of the situation that the president has asked for," Earnest said, adding that the U.S. was involved in three investigations, including one by NATO.

Doctors Without Borders, which is also known as MSF, appealed last week for the involvement of the commission. On Wednesday, the group said the commission had been "activated" and called it a first step toward an investigation. "We have received apologies and condolences, but this is not enough," said Dr. Joanne Liu, MSF's international president. "We are still in the dark about why a well-known hospital full of patients and medical staff was repeatedly bombarded for more than an hour. We need to understand what happened and why."

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[longknife]

Granny says, "Dat's right - now dey gonna get to the bottom of it...

Fact-finding group ready to probe deadly Kunduz airstrike
Oct 14,`15 -- The International Humanitarian Fact-Finding Commission has told the U.S. and Afghan governments it's ready to investigate deadly U.S. airstrikes on a Doctors Without Borders hospital in northern Afghanistan - if they agree.

The IHFFC said Wednesday it has "proposed its services" to the countries after the repeated U.S. airstrikes Oct. 3 that devastated the hospital in the city of Kunduz, killing 12 staffers of medical aid group Doctors Without Borders and 10 patients amid fighting between Afghan forces and Taliban rebels. U.S. officials have insisted the strikes were a mistake, and President Barack Obama has apologized to Doctors Without Borders' international president. Acting "on its own initiative", the IHFFC said it sent identical letters on the issue to the governments on Oct. 7. The intergovernmental body, based in Bern and set up under an annex of the Geneva Convention, can only launch a mission if authorized by the concerned state or states. Created after the Gulf War in 1991, it has never deployed one. The U.S. has vowed to conduct an investigation, but says an international probe is not needed. Afghan authorities are also investigating.

Thilo Marauhn, a law professor at Germany's University of Giessen and commission first vice president, said: "It's not our job to tell states what to do." "We are not pressuring them, but we are inviting them" to accept, he said, before adding: "It would be fairly easy for the U.S. to say, 'We are the good guys, and we authorize this impartial, independent institution to conduct an inquiry' ... The U.S. could basically position itself as a country that promotes compliance with (international humanitarian law)." White House press secretary Josh Earnest said the U.S. Department of Defense is investigating the incident and that Obama has informed the chain of command that he expects a "thorough, objective and transparent review to be conducted." "The administration has confidence that the investigation that's currently under way by the Department of Defense will provide the full accounting of the situation that the president has asked for," Earnest said, adding that the U.S. was involved in three investigations, including one by NATO.

Doctors Without Borders, which is also known as MSF, appealed last week for the involvement of the commission. On Wednesday, the group said the commission had been "activated" and called it a first step toward an investigation. "We have received apologies and condolences, but this is not enough," said Dr. Joanne Liu, MSF's international president. "We are still in the dark about why a well-known hospital full of patients and medical staff was repeatedly bombarded for more than an hour. We need to understand what happened and why."

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Whenever it says "International Commission" one instantly knows it will be composed of those who hate the USA and will find every bit of "evidence" against us.

 

[waltky]

Hospital was suspected of clandestine operations...

US Suspected Taliban At Doctors Without Borders Hospital
October 16, 2015 | WASHINGTON -- American special operations analysts were scrutinizing an Afghan hospital days before it was destroyed by a U.S. military attack because they believed it was being used by a Pakistani operative to coordinate Taliban activity, The Associated Press has learned.

The analysts knew it was a medical facility, but it's unclear whether that information ever got to commanders who unleashed the AC-130 gunship on the hospital, killing at least 22 patients and hospital staff. Nor is it known whether the allegations of possible enemy activity played a role in the incident. The Pentagon initially said the attack was to protect U.S. troops engaged in a firefight and has since said it was a mistake. The special operations analysts had assembled a dossier that included maps with the hospital circled, along with indications that intelligence agencies were tracking the location of the Pakistani operative and activity reports based on overhead surveillance, according to a former intelligence official who is familiar with some of the documents describing the site. The intelligence suggested the hospital was being used as a Taliban command and control center and may have housed heavy weapons.

After the attack - it came amid a battle to retake the northern Afghan city of Kunduz from the Taliban - some U.S. analysts assessed that the strike had been justified, the former officer says. They concluded that the Pakistani, believed to have been working for his country's Inter-Service Intelligence directorate, had been killed. No evidence has surfaced publicly suggesting a Pakistani died in the attack, and Doctors without Borders, the international organization that ran the hospital, says none of its staff was Pakistani. The former intelligence official was not authorized to comment publicly and spoke only on condition of anonymity. The top U.S. officer in Afghanistan, Gen. John Campbell, has said the strike was a mistake, but he has not explained exactly how it happened or who granted final approval. He also told Congress he was ordering all personnel in Afghanistan to be retrained on the rules governing the circumstances under which strikes are acceptable.

The new details about the military's suspicions that the hospital was being misused complicate an already murky picture and add to the unanswered questions about one of the worst civilian casualty incidents of the Afghan war. They also raise the possibility of a breakdown in intelligence sharing and communication across the military chain of command. White House spokesman Josh Earnest said questions about what the Defense Department knew about the clinic and whether it was communicated to personnel operating the gunship would be part of the Pentagon's investigation. He said President Barack Obama was expecting a "full accounting." Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook declined to address the new information. "As Gen. Campbell has said, we would never intentionally target a protected medical facility," Cook said in a statement. "We have confidence that the ongoing investigations into this tragic incident will uncover exactly what happened and why this hospital was mistakenly struck."

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[Kondor3]

And, when the report comes out, we'll have a larger supply of toilet paper...

 

[waltky]

Fleeing MSF doctors shot down while trying to escape firefight...

Doctors Without Borders Victims Shot While Fleeing Hospital: Report
Nov 06, 2015 | Frantic Doctors Without Borders officials sent out at least 17 phone calls and text messages pleading for the airstrikes against the Kunduz hospital in northern Afghanistan to stop. They repeatedly called the U.S. military in Kabul as the strikes continued for more than an hour in the early morning of Oct. 3. They called the Afghan military. They called the Pentagon. They called the Red Cross.

When told of the devastating attacks by an Air Force Special Operations Command AC-130U gunship, a U.S. official at the headquarters of NATO's Operation Resolute Support in Kabul said, "I'm sorry to hear that. I still do not know what happened." When told that the attacks were continuing, another Resolute Support official said, "I'll do my best, praying for you all." Doctors Without Borders, better known by its French name Medicins Sans Frontieres (MSF), released a log of the phone calls and text messages as part of its initial review of what happened in the attacks believed to have killed at least 30 people.

Nine aid workers at this Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, reporedly died in a U.S. airstrike.​

The review suggested that some of the victims were shot by the AC-130's mini-guns as they attempted to flee the hospital while the aircraft lingered over the compound. "Many staff describe seeing people being shot, most likely from the plane, as people tried to flee the main hospital building that was being hit with each airstrike," the report said. "Some accounts mention shooting that appears to follow the movement of people on the run."

First reports said that 23 were killed but MSF said the death toll now was at least 30, "including 10 known patients, 13 known staff, and 7 more bodies that were burnt beyond recognition and are still in the process of being identified." "Patients burned in their beds, medical staff were decapitated and lost limbs, and others were shot by the circling AC- 130 gunship while fleeing the burning buildings," the review said. The organization has maintained that the location of the Kunduz Trauma Center (KTC) had already been made well known to the U.S. and Afghan militaries, NATO, the United Nations and the Taliban as well.

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[waltky]

Afghanis takes responsibility, 100% convinced hospital was occupied by Taliban...

US Troops Didn't Have Eyes on Afghan Hospital Before Attack
Nov 11, 2015 | WASHINGTON -- Immediately after the U.S. killed at least 30 people in a devastating airstrike on a charity hospital, Afghanistan's national security adviser told a European diplomat his country would take responsibility because "we are without doubt, 100 percent convinced the place was occupied by Taliban," according to notes of the meeting reviewed by The Associated Press.

More than a month later, no evidence has emerged to support that assertion. Eyewitnesses tell the AP they saw no gunmen at the hospital. Instead, there are mounting indications the U.S. military relied heavily on Afghan allies who resented the internationally run Doctors Without Borders hospital, which treated Afghan security forces and Taliban alike but says it refused to admit armed men. The new evidence includes details the AP has learned about the location of American troops during the attack. The U.S. special forces unit whose commander called in the strike was under fire in the Kunduz provincial governor's compound a half-mile away from the hospital, according to a former intelligence official who has reviewed documents describing the incident. The commander could not see the medical facility -- so couldn't know firsthand whether the Taliban were using it as a base -- and sought the attack on the recommendation of Afghan forces, the official said.

Fires burn in part of the Medecins Sans Frontieres hospital in Kanduz, Afghanistan, after it was hit by an air strike on October 3, 2015​

Members of the unit have told Rep. Duncan Hunter, a California Republican who serves on the House Armed Services Committee, that they were unaware their target was a functioning hospital until the attack was over, said Joe Kasper, Hunter's spokesman. Looking ahead, the strike raises questions about whether the U.S. military can rely on intelligence from Afghan allies in a war in which small contingents of Americans will increasingly fight with larger units of local forces. Also at issue is how the target was vetted. American commanders, with sophisticated information technology at their disposal, allowed the strike to go forward despite reports in their databases that the hospital was functioning. Even if armed Taliban fighters had been hiding inside, the U.S. acknowledges it would not have been justified in destroying a working hospital filled with wounded patients.

Jailani, a 31-year-old mechanic who uses only one name, says he was at the hospital to see his brother-in-law, Ibrahim, who was admitted two days before the airstrike. "On the day of the attack I was in the hospital from 9 a.m. until 5 a.m. During that time, the Taliban came in without guns, as patients or accompanying their patients, or sometimes they came to take their dead out," he said. "They did not have permission to enter the hospital with their guns." President Barack Obama has apologized for the attack. The Pentagon has said it was a mistake that resulted from both human and technical errors, and it is investigating, along with NATO and the Afghan government. "No other nation in the history of warfare has gone to the lengths we do to avoid civilian casualties," Pentagon spokesman Navy Capt. Jeff Davis said in a statement. "And when we make a mistake, we will not only own up to it, we will also scrutinize all of the facts to learn from them so that it never happens again."

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[waltky]

Mistaken identity?...

U.S. military mistook Afghan hospital for Taliban compound in deadly airstrike, officials say
Nov. 24, 2015 -- The U.S. military targeted an Afghanistan hospital in an airstrike last month because it mistook the building for a Taliban site from which fighters were firing at forces on the ground, officials said Tuesday.

The Oct. 3 airstrike in Kunduz, Afghanistan, killed between 20 and 30 people, including humanitarian personnel of the medical group Doctors Without Borders, which staffed the hospital. The strike has since been criticized by the humanitarian group and several foreign officials and prompted a U.S. investigation. Tuesday, CNN cited administration officials as saying the incident was the result of mistaken identity -- led by technical and human error. The officials' revelations came a day before Gen. John Campbell, the top NATO and U.S. commander in Afghanistan, was set to give a brief summary of the investigation -- even though the military still must determine if any disciplinary or punitive actions will be taken.

More than 20 people were killed in Kunduz, Afghanistan, in an Oct. 3 airstrike that targeted a hospital operated by the humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders. Tuesday, military officials told news media that an investigation has concluded that the crew of an AC-130 (pictured) mistook the hospital for a Taliban compound.​

CNN's report said the AC-130 aircraft involved in the 2 a.m. strike was supposed to target the nearby Taliban compound but fired on the hospital by mistake. Doctors Without Borders, U.S. officials have previously said, took every step necessary to communicate the hospital's location to military commanders and bears no responsibility for the accident. According to the officials, the gunship was given incorrect coordinates that led it to an empty field. The crew of the plane then decided a nearby building, the hospital, must be the target site. Further, they said, equipment on board the aircraft that was supposed to notify the crew of the hospital's location was malfunctioning. The AC-130 crew also had not been notified of the hospital's location because the plane had just diverted to the location from another mission.

Another unanswered question is why the plane's crew, who were responding to a call for help from Afghan fighters who said they were under Taliban fire, targeted the hospital when it was clear there was no fighting there. The AC-130 has infrared equipment aboard that can detect gunfire on the ground. "A combination of human and technical errors led to this disastrous strike," one military officer said. Doctors Without Borders, which believes the errant airstrike was a war crime, has asked for an independent investigation into the bombing.

U.S. military mistook Afghan hospital for Taliban compound in deadly airstrike, officials say

 

[waltky]

Poor Afghan intel leads to miscommunication...

Lawmaker: Were US Forces Manipulated Into Striking Hospital?
Dec 09, 2015 | WASHINGTON -- Two servicemen have told Congress that American special forces called in an airstrike on a hospital in Afghanistan because they believed the Taliban were using it as a command center, contradicting the military's explanation that the attack was meant for a different building.

Rep. Duncan Hunter, a California Republican who serves on the House Armed Services Committee, quoted the servicemen without naming them in a letter he sent Tuesday to Defense Secretary Ash Carter. The letter highlights gaps in the military's explanation of an October airstrike on a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz that killed 31 civilians. Hunter said the accounts provided to him raise the possibility that the U.S. was manipulated by its Afghan partners into attacking the hospital. If true, that would be a setback in the U.S. effort to work with and train a local force capable of securing that country. A Pentagon spokesman, Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, said the secretary had received the letter but the Defense Department would not comment. Hunter declined to identify the servicemen because he said they feared disciplinary action.

The two servicemen told Hunter the U.S. special forces soldiers who called in the airstrike were not aware the Doctors Without Borders building was still being used as a hospital. Afghan forces, they say, told them it had become a Taliban command and control center. "There were enemy in there," Hunter quotes one of the servicemen as saying. "They had already removed and ransomed the foreign doctors, and they had fired on partnered personnel from there." Doctors Without Borders leaders and independent witnesses insist there were no armed men in the hospital, and the military's investigation supported that contention.

The military's official account, a summary of which was disclosed on Nov. 25 by the commanding U.S. general in Afghanistan, says the soldiers and airmen intended the airstrike to hit a different building a half mile away -- an Afghan intelligence facility said to be occupied by the Taliban. It was only because of technical failures and human error, Gen. John Campbell told reporters, that an AC-130 mistakenly struck and destroyed the trauma center in the Doctors Without Borders hospital. Campbell's account didn't address the evidence that the U.S. had been focusing on the hospital.

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[eagle1462010]

This happened a while back and was considered pilot error............They thought the Hospital was not there...............They were called in for support by the Afghanistan Army...................They were attempting to take out a target that they thought was firing on friendlies...................

The pilots had no idea they were hitting a Doctors without Borders.............

This shit will happen in a War.............This isn't the first time and will not be the last time...............It's just the way it is.............