Term Limits the only solution for real change

Discussion in 'Congress' started by Maple, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. Maple
    Offline

    Maple Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2009
    Messages:
    4,674
    Thanks Received:
    568
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +568
    All of us want change, this is not a partisan issue, it does not matter if you are a republican, democrat, independent, conservative or liberal. We are not going to get significant change until we the people impose term limitaions on congress and the senate.

    Too many congressmen and senators have made a career out of a political office, Kennedy, Kerry, McCain, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi, and the list goes on and on. They become entrenched in their white ivory towers,forgetting what it's like in the real world. They succomb to special interest groups, they become corrupt with power and money from these groups and eventually they entirely ignore their constituants. Is it any wonder to any of you why this country seems so divided. I don't beleive that we the people are divided, I believe our congress and senate are. They all form their clicks, play their power games, and in the end, get nothing done for the American people.

    I think that most of us want the same thing, affordable health care, energy independence,, an educational system that works and a social security system that is feasible and won't be bankrupt for future generations. We need a government that can balance a budget, use tax payer dollars efficiently, eliminates waste and fraud, and creates opportunities for growth in the private sector. We will never get there with entrenched politicians who have made careers out of being ego centric, counter productive individuals whose only concern is power and money and getting their faces on television in order to be re-elected. Most of these politicians have never had to work a real day in their lives, they have an omnipotent veiw of themselves and really think that we the people could not live without their leadership. We can, and we would do a much better job with new people with fresh ideas. The new ones want to do what is right, they have not had the time to be corrupted by special interest groups or old entrenched politicians.

    Let's give them each two terms and then there out. That's the only way we are ever going to get the change we need and want in this country. Support term limits and get to your tea party on the 15th of April. This is the real change this country needs.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 2
  2. RetiredGySgt
    Online

    RetiredGySgt Platinum Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2007
    Messages:
    39,553
    Thanks Received:
    5,900
    Trophy Points:
    1,140
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Ratings:
    +8,971
    We the people already determine Term Limits with our VOTE. Find me anything in the Constitution that can limit the terms of eligable people for the House or Senate. It would take a Constitutional Amendment. Which is a waste of time and money.

    I am beyond tired of lazy helpless people to STUPID to exersize their rights with the vote. Don't like a Congress or Senate Critter, VOTE them OUT. But no, we are to weak willed and helpless to actually do that, instead we want the Government to make it easy for us by forcing people out so we don't have to actually think or exersize our minds and rights.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  3. IMDaugur
    Offline

    IMDaugur Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    116
    Thanks Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Ratings:
    +15
    The people who would need to put forth the legislation to amend the Constitution to establish term limits will never do anything to cut their own throats with such an amendment.
     
  4. foggedinn
    Offline

    foggedinn VIP Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    600
    Thanks Received:
    53
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings:
    +107
    This idea was a non starter the first time I heard it over 20 years ago.

    Any state or congressional district stupid enough to limit the terms of their own representatives in congress relegates themselves to diminished influence in Washington.

    It seem that it's always the other guys representatives that we want to throw out of office. Hence the north of 95% re-election rates.

    Your congressman plays pork barrel politics, my congressman brings home the bacon.:lol:
     
  5. DamnYankee
    Offline

    DamnYankee No Neg Policy

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2009
    Messages:
    4,516
    Thanks Received:
    441
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +441
    On the one hand, I see the point, since the President and Governors have imposed terms limits. However, I also see the point, very accurately made, that WE have the power to kick them out of office if they deserve to be. Now, the only problem I see with that is, it is more difficult to unseat an encumbent simply because WE know who they are as opposed to the "new guy/gal". And the "newbie", generally, doesn't have the financial advantages by virtue of the fact that they are new. I'm not sure what the answer is, but it seems to me that a step in the right direction would be equal SPENDING on campaigns -- which would translate to equal media access, equal campaign literature, etc.
     
  6. Maple
    Offline

    Maple Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2009
    Messages:
    4,674
    Thanks Received:
    568
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +568
    I understand that it would take a constitutional ammendment to do this, and I understand that we can always vote them out of office. However, as you pointed out we are lazy and we do that voter recognition thing and keep voting in the same people over and over again. They bring their same special interest package to the same table with the same people they fought with it about before and we think we are going to have change, no way in hell. These same old entrenched politicians have alot of campaign money from all of these special interest groups and the little person who would like to run against them can't get the funding to do so. In my view there needs to be a constitutional ammendment for term limits. Yes, it was brought up 20 years ago, but it's time we brought it up again and actually got something done about it. Make your voice heard and attend your tea party on the 15th of April.
     
  7. alan1
    Offline

    alan1 USMB Mod Staff Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2008
    Messages:
    18,845
    Thanks Received:
    3,577
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Location:
    Shoveling the ashes
    Ratings:
    +3,769
    See the part in bold.
    Government of any kind isn't the solution to what you want.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  8. Maple
    Offline

    Maple Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2009
    Messages:
    4,674
    Thanks Received:
    568
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +568
    You can bet your buckwheat that if the writers of our constitution were alive today they would have wrote in term limits for the congress and the senate. They would have been disgusted at what we see on a daily basis, corruption, special interests in the back pockets of our so-called leaders and those politicians living the life of riley, staying on the government gravy train until they die. They most certainly would not have wanted this and it is clear that this needs to change, let's bring to the forfront the need for term limits and get it done this time. It will be a fight but I beleive it's a fight that we the people can win.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  9. raceright
    Offline

    raceright Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    387
    Thanks Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Long Island
    Ratings:
    +33


    How about no pay God knows there all over paid
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. alan1
    Offline

    alan1 USMB Mod Staff Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2008
    Messages:
    18,845
    Thanks Received:
    3,577
    Trophy Points:
    245
    Location:
    Shoveling the ashes
    Ratings:
    +3,769
    Congressperson. The only job you can constantly fuck up at and keep.
     

Share This Page