Tenn. provides guns to criminals to shoot police

ummmm guns are legal in this country. they sold guns to gun dealers who have the legal right to buy and sell them. I really don't see what the issue is O_O Do you think that if those guns were never sold to the gun stores that the shooters wouldn't have just went elsewhere??

i must be missing something....

You are missing something.

People who sell guns are providing criminals with guns whether they sell them directly or not.
 
Is this a great country or what?

AP Exclusive: Pentagon gun was from Tenn. police | National politics | News from Fort Wo...

WASHINGTON — Two guns used in high-profile shootings this year at the Pentagon and a Las Vegas courthouse both came from the same unlikely place: the police and court system of Memphis, Tenn.

Law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that both guns were once seized in criminal cases in Memphis. The officials described how the weapons made their separate ways from an evidence vault to gun dealers and to the shooters.

The use of guns that once were in police custody and were later involved in attacks on police officers highlights a little-known divide in gun policy in the United States: Many cities and states destroy guns gathered in criminal probes, but others sell or trade the weapons in order to get other guns or buy equipment such as bulletproof vests.

In fact, on the day of the Pentagon shooting, March 4, the Tennessee governor signed legislation revising state law on confiscated guns. Before, law enforcement agencies in the state had the option of destroying a gun. Under the new version, agencies can only destroy a gun if it's inoperable or unsafe.


eat a dick, faggot .......

Why are right wing nut cases so obsessed with gay male sex?

Some latent tendencies perhaps?
 
Is this a great country or what?

AP Exclusive: Pentagon gun was from Tenn. police | National politics | News from Fort Wo...

WASHINGTON — Two guns used in high-profile shootings this year at the Pentagon and a Las Vegas courthouse both came from the same unlikely place: the police and court system of Memphis, Tenn.

Law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that both guns were once seized in criminal cases in Memphis. The officials described how the weapons made their separate ways from an evidence vault to gun dealers and to the shooters.

The use of guns that once were in police custody and were later involved in attacks on police officers highlights a little-known divide in gun policy in the United States: Many cities and states destroy guns gathered in criminal probes, but others sell or trade the weapons in order to get other guns or buy equipment such as bulletproof vests.

In fact, on the day of the Pentagon shooting, March 4, the Tennessee governor signed legislation revising state law on confiscated guns. Before, law enforcement agencies in the state had the option of destroying a gun. Under the new version, agencies can only destroy a gun if it's inoperable or unsafe.


eat a dick, faggot .......

Why are right wing nut cases so obsessed with gay male sex?

Some latent tendencies perhaps?

why are you so obsessed with gay republicans? Hoping you get to shag one perhaps?
 
ummmm guns are legal in this country. they sold guns to gun dealers who have the legal right to buy and sell them. I really don't see what the issue is O_O Do you think that if those guns were never sold to the gun stores that the shooters wouldn't have just went elsewhere??

i must be missing something....

They would have just bought a different weapon at the place they bought those. Since Both were legally sold. It is the far lefts dream to some how disarm the public, a disarmed public is no threat when they go to far on policy and taxes.

Clinton was the worst. He ordered the destruction of millions of WW2 era rifles and M-14's by the US Government. Before he ordered their destruction the Government would sell them or provide them to foreign Countries as military weapons. NRA bought the M1 Garands and gave them to people that had enough points from civilian shooting matches. We will never get those M-14's back. They too should have been sold to the civilian population.
 
Your Help Is Needed In Support of BATFE Reform Bills S. 941 And H.R. 2296

Tuesday, January 26, 2010

As we’ve been reporting for months, Senator Mike Crapo (R-Idaho) and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) have introduced S. 941, the “Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Reform and Firearms Modernization Act of 2009” in the U.S. Senate. Representatives Steve King (R-Iowa) and Zack Space (D-Ohio) have introduced a companion bill—H.R. 2296—in the U.S. House. The bills would roll back unnecessary restrictions, correct errors, and codify longstanding congressional policies in the firearms arena. These bipartisan bills are a vital step to modernize and improve BATFE operations.

Of highest importance, S. 941and H.R. 2296 totally rewrite the system of administrative penalties for licensed dealers, manufacturers and importers of firearms. Currently, for most violations, BATFE can only give a federal firearms license (FFL) holder a warning, or revoke his license.

S. 941 and H.R. 2296 would allow fines or license suspensions for less serious violations, while still allowing license revocation for the kind of serious violations that would block an investigation or put guns in the hands of criminals. This will help prevent the all-too-common situations where BATFE has revoked licenses for insignificant technical violations—such as improper use of abbreviations or filing records in the wrong order.

Among its other provisions, S. 941 and H.R. 2296 would:

· Clarify the standard for “willful” violations—allowing penalties for intentional, purposeful violations of the law, but not for simple paperwork mistakes.

· Improve the process for imposing penalties, notably by allowing FFLs to appeal BATFE penalties to a neutral administrative law judge, rather than to an employee of BATFE itself.

· Allow a licensee a period of time to liquidate inventory when he goes out of business. During this period, all firearms sold would be subject to a background check by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

· Allow a grace period for people taking over an existing firearms business to correct problems in the business’s records—so if a person inherited a family gun store (for example), the new owner couldn’t be punished for the previous owner’s recordkeeping violations.

· Reform the procedures for consideration of federal firearms license applications. Under S. 941, denial of an application would require notification to the applicant, complete with reasons for the denial. Additionally, an applicant would be allowed to provide supplemental information and to have a hearing on the application.

· Require BATFE to establish clear investigative guidelines.

· Clarify the licensing requirement for gunsmiths, distinguishing between repair and other gunsmith work and manufacture of a firearm. This would stop BATFE from arguing that minor gunsmithing or refinishing activities require a manufacturers’ license.

· Eliminate a provision of the Youth Handgun Safety Act that requires those under 18 to have written permission to use a handgun for lawful purposes (such as competitive shooting or safety training)—even when the parent or guardian is present.

· Permanently ban creation of a centralized electronic index of out of business dealers’ records—a threat to gun owners’ privacy that Congress has barred through appropriations riders for more than a decade.

· Allow importation and transfer of new machineguns by firearm and ammunition manufacturers for use in developing or testing firearms and ammunition, and training customers. In particular, ammunition manufacturers fulfilling government contracts need to ensure that their ammunition works reliably. S. 941 and H.R. 2296 would also provide for the transfer and possession of new machineguns by professional film and theatrical organizations.

· Repeal the Brady Act’s “interim” waiting period provisions, which expired in 1998.

· Give BATFE sole responsibility for receiving reports of multiple handgun sales. (Currently, dealers also have to report multiple sales to state or local agencies, a requirement that has shown little or no law enforcement value.) State and local agencies could receive these reports upon request to BATFE, but would have to comply strictly with current requirements to destroy these records after 20 days, unless the person buying the guns turns out to be prohibited from receiving firearms.

· Restore a policy that allowed importation of barrels, frames and receivers for non-importable firearms, when they can be used as repair or replacement parts.

S. 941 represents the first time such BATFE reform legislation has been introduced in the Senate. However, the House passed similar legislation (H.R. 5092) in the 109th Congress by a 277-131 vote. A majority of the House--224 congressmen--cosponsored H.R. 4900 in the 110th Congress.

A fact sheet on S. 941/H.R. 2296 can be found here.


As of this writing, S. 941 has 24 cosponsors, and H.R. 2296 has 210 cosponsors.

Please be sure to contact your U.S. Senators and Representative, and ask them to cosponsor and support S. 941 and H.R. 2296! You can call your U.S. Senators at (202) 224-3121, and your U.S. Representative at (202) 225-3121.






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The BATF is a criminal organization. THEY are the direct cause of the murder of over 80 people at Waco Texas. They were stripped of powers in the late 70's early 80's because of RAMPANT ABUSE. They routinely seized collectors weapons and defied Court Orders to return the weapons, offering pennies on the dollar of their worth as compensation. They continue to this day violating Federal law and harassing gun owners across the Country. They fabricate charges and raid law abiding gun shops and shut them down.

For example, it is illegal to sell a weapon to someone not from the State the Gun Dealer is licensed in. The ATF would run a scam where they sent in an undercover agent with out of State ID. He would try to buy a specific weapon. The Gun Shop would refuse to sell it offering to do it legally by having him contact a dealer in HIS state to transfer said weapon to so he could legally buy the weapon. The agent would leave refusing to go the legal route.

Once outside the store he would go out of site and the ATF would send in a second agent with proper ID. This agent would pick the same weapon to buy. Having the proper ID the Store would sell it to the Agent. AT which time ATF would raid the store and claim they should have know that this second agent was purchasing said weapon for the first agent.

Mind you the Store employees NEVER saw the two agents together and had ZERO reason to suspect the second agent had anything to do with the first. The second agent never mentioned the first agent, the first agent never mentioned the second agent.

I oppose ANY bill that improves the ability of the BATF to do anything. In fact that agency should be shut down for all its illegal activities.
 
ummmm guns are legal in this country. they sold guns to gun dealers who have the legal right to buy and sell them. I really don't see what the issue is O_O Do you think that if those guns were never sold to the gun stores that the shooters wouldn't have just went elsewhere??

i must be missing something....

You are missing something.

People who sell guns are providing criminals with guns whether they sell them directly or not.

THIS proves you are a FUCKING DUMB ASS.
 
Is this a great country or what?

AP Exclusive: Pentagon gun was from Tenn. police | National politics | News from Fort Wo...

WASHINGTON — Two guns used in high-profile shootings this year at the Pentagon and a Las Vegas courthouse both came from the same unlikely place: the police and court system of Memphis, Tenn.

Law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that both guns were once seized in criminal cases in Memphis. The officials described how the weapons made their separate ways from an evidence vault to gun dealers and to the shooters.

The use of guns that once were in police custody and were later involved in attacks on police officers highlights a little-known divide in gun policy in the United States: Many cities and states destroy guns gathered in criminal probes, but others sell or trade the weapons in order to get other guns or buy equipment such as bulletproof vests.

In fact, on the day of the Pentagon shooting, March 4, the Tennessee governor signed legislation revising state law on confiscated guns. Before, law enforcement agencies in the state had the option of destroying a gun. Under the new version, agencies can only destroy a gun if it's inoperable or unsafe.


eat a dick, faggot .......

he has eaten so many he has turned into one....
 
ummmm guns are legal in this country. they sold guns to gun dealers who have the legal right to buy and sell them. I really don't see what the issue is O_O Do you think that if those guns were never sold to the gun stores that the shooters wouldn't have just went elsewhere??

i must be missing something....

You are missing something.

People who sell guns are providing criminals with guns whether they sell them directly or not.

so in your little mind, those guys would not have been able to get guns if those guns would have been destroyed.....right?....
 
Is this a great country or what?

AP Exclusive: Pentagon gun was from Tenn. police | National politics | News from Fort Wo...

WASHINGTON — Two guns used in high-profile shootings this year at the Pentagon and a Las Vegas courthouse both came from the same unlikely place: the police and court system of Memphis, Tenn.

Law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that both guns were once seized in criminal cases in Memphis. The officials described how the weapons made their separate ways from an evidence vault to gun dealers and to the shooters.

The use of guns that once were in police custody and were later involved in attacks on police officers highlights a little-known divide in gun policy in the United States: Many cities and states destroy guns gathered in criminal probes, but others sell or trade the weapons in order to get other guns or buy equipment such as bulletproof vests.

In fact, on the day of the Pentagon shooting, March 4, the Tennessee governor signed legislation revising state law on confiscated guns. Before, law enforcement agencies in the state had the option of destroying a gun. Under the new version, agencies can only destroy a gun if it's inoperable or unsafe.

<shrug> Doesn't really mean anything, it's not like there's a shortage of guns in the US.
 
ummmm guns are legal in this country. they sold guns to gun dealers who have the legal right to buy and sell them. I really don't see what the issue is O_O Do you think that if those guns were never sold to the gun stores that the shooters wouldn't have just went elsewhere??

i must be missing something....

You are missing something.

People who sell guns are providing criminals with guns whether they sell them directly or not.

Cars kill people,

water kills people,

falling off of cliffs or buildings kill people,

electricity kills people,

should all this be banned by your reasoning?

People kill people. That is the point, guns are just one of many methods. Your need to manipulate, misinform, and control, is another issue.


Your logic is corrupted Chris.
 

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