Tender Mercies: A Love Story

[AquaAthena]

Camp, you and I are in complete agreement. When I read this original post, I couldn't help but remember the Steven Hawking quote, "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance. It is the illusion of knowledge."BTW, didn't Burns do a documentary on the Roosevelts?

1. Well, well....another government school grad checking in.
It is no longer a surprise that your sort is oblivious to not having received an actual education.

2. "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance. It is the illusion of knowledge."
Amusing that you use the term "knowledge," seeing as you have such an estranged relationship with the concept.

3.None of you has been able to point to a single error in any of my posts....they are all correct and accurate.
Seems that 'Liberal indoctrination' permanently removes any ability to actually think, eh?

No, MS Chic, your posts are cherry-picked and cobbled, like your knowledge of the times. I'm not out to convert you though, be my guest, continue to promote antique discord. Nor will I take time to disprove your cynical view of the past which I suspect is an effort to make your present view more presentable. Those of us who lived those times, the good and the bad, will soon be beyond your pompous pronouncements anyway. BTW, I presume you have more than what you posted as documentation of your 'facts', like say the testimony of two men?

" Nor will I take time to disprove..."

Right.

Two posts by you with not the slightest hint of any more than "is not....is not......"

My posts are linked, sourced, quoted....

You are free to do the extensive research on any of 'em.


Here's a really fun place for you to start...."Koba The Dread: Laughter And The Twenty Million," by Martin Amis.

Check out the man Franklin Roosevelt fell in love with.

PC.....your posts can be counted on as factual. You do an excellent job of sourcing your material, in addition to having studied most of what you post. I have often wished I had more time in the mornings to follow the good threads. USMB HAS the perfect audience for you... You are unto yourself when it comes to excellence in posting and you provide great fodder for the hungry. May you continue to soar. The site needs you.

I'm speechless, sis.

So sorry the changes have kept you away from here.....loved seeing you post every day.

Thanks sweetie. I have found better shores myself but I do drop in here early some mornings to see if there is anything worth reading or responding to. Anything you post would be but I haven't the time to stay.

I also like to see olé buds, too. Some of them are liberals but because I have fond memories of them, having known their other sides for many years, I don't read them in anything politically controversial. I like to keep with the good feelings for them. It helps keep me flexible so I don't bend out of shape. lol

Coyote, Derideo_Te, Pogo, @ToroJakeStarkey ( ? ) More but can't think of them right now. Also my bud Jakey does say he is a Republican, I read often here where that is questionable by many posters. Either way, he is a bud.

But PC...you are the best and most loyal bud of the longest years and for that, I am grateful and continue to come here just to read a few paragraphs of your learned postings...

 

[Unkotare]

To claim that POS fdr had any "moral compass" is beyond absurd.

The difference is that you just hate FDR because he put Japanese Americans into internment camps during WWll and judge one of America's greatest and most beloved President's on that one issue you are so bitter about while other consistently post links and opinions that oppose your view. You just have that bitterness and hate in you heart to whine and complain about. Others, the vast majority, judge a man by the compilation of accomplishments and deeds in his life, not by one possible misguided decision.
You are the one that is absurd sir. You are obsessed with your bitterness over an occurrence that happened over 75 years ago.

That POS fdr had plenty of other sins on his head, you shameless, idol-worshipping apologist. These have been pointed out to you again and again, but you ignore, spin, and deny No matter how dim witted and dishonest it makes you look because your adoration is more valuable to you than the truth.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is like shootin' fish in a barrel....

So...you claim that FDR was a man with a "moral compass."
Bushwah!

Although not quite as simple as you are, it is eminently simple to prove that Franklin Roosevelt was a low-life with no "moral compass."

Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration.


Was that easy, or what.
Case closed.

Are you a liar or just a dunce. You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...". Did you somehow miss the portion of your study of this topic about Hitler demanding a halt to sea traffic and trade across the Atlantic to supply Britain with weapons and supplies? Gosh you missed the part where FDR told him to fuck off and continued the trade with US Navy escorts. They had these little incidents of the US Navy attacking the German Navy and the German Navy attacking the US Navy. This was before war was even declared. It was called the undeclared war and was a battle with German submarines in the north Atlantic.
You really need to get away from those propaganda revisionist writings and study some historical works by authors that are actually recognized by institutions of higher learning.

This is like shootin' fish in a barrel....

So...you claim that FDR was a man with a "moral compass."
Bushwah!

Although not quite as simple as you are, it is eminently simple to prove that Franklin Roosevelt was a low-life with no "moral compass."

Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration.


Was that easy, or what.
Case closed.

Are you a liar or just a dunce. You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...". Did you somehow miss the portion of your study of this topic about Hitler demanding a halt to sea traffic and trade across the Atlantic to supply Britain with weapons and supplies? Gosh you missed the part where FDR told him to fuck off and continued the trade with US Navy escorts. They had these little incidents of the US Navy attacking the German Navy and the German Navy attacking the US Navy. This was before war was even declared. It was called the undeclared war and was a battle with German submarines in the north Atlantic.
You really need to get away from those propaganda revisionist writings and study some historical works by authors that are actually recognized by institutions of higher learning.

This is like shootin' fish in a barrel....

So...you claim that FDR was a man with a "moral compass."
Bushwah!

Although not quite as simple as you are, it is eminently simple to prove that Franklin Roosevelt was a low-life with no "moral compass."

Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration.


Was that easy, or what.
Case closed.

Are you a liar or just a dunce. You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...". Did you somehow miss the portion of your study of this topic about Hitler demanding a halt to sea traffic and trade across the Atlantic to supply Britain with weapons and supplies? Gosh you missed the part where FDR told him to fuck off and continued the trade with US Navy escorts. They had these little incidents of the US Navy attacking the German Navy and the German Navy attacking the US Navy. This was before war was even declared. It was called the undeclared war and was a battle with German submarines in the north Atlantic.
You really need to get away from those propaganda revisionist writings and study some historical works by authors that are actually recognized by institutions of higher learning.

"You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...."

See...caught you lying again!!

I never said any such thing.

It is in your post and the one I quoted. Are you going to weasel out of it because you used it as a question that implied it as a fact?

Well...then let's let everyone see the post you claim to have quoted, and see that you continue to lie:

Here, post #51:

"Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration."


Still wanna say I said that Roosevelt "defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.."

...or did I pose a Litmus Test for your claim of his being a man with a "moral compass"?



Don't ever object when I tell all that you are a liar.

Now you are just running a lame con job to try and cover up the fact you got caught promoting more misinformation. Litmus test your ass. You posed a question that insinuated FDR was being cooperative with Hitler and thought you could get away with it because you have no knowledge or clue about the topic you are discussing. These were the ships FDR ordered to answer Hitler before there was a declared war. Look them up and learn something about how FDR treated Hitler. You need to learn about the sacrifices made by brave men so that you still have the right to spew the garbage and anti American crap you litter the net with.

USS KEARNY
USS GREER
USS REUBEN JAMES
USS NIBLACK
USCGC NORTHLAND

You always have your ass kicked when you go after FDR and your dopey conspiracy theories. Why do you persist?

Ooooo.....look at the liar squirm!

Here, post #51...again:

"Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration."



You can run but you can't hide.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Well, well....another government school grad checking in.
It is no longer a surprise that your sort is oblivious to not having received an actual education.

2. "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance. It is the illusion of knowledge."
Amusing that you use the term "knowledge," seeing as you have such an estranged relationship with the concept.

3.None of you has been able to point to a single error in any of my posts....they are all correct and accurate.
Seems that 'Liberal indoctrination' permanently removes any ability to actually think, eh?

No, MS Chic, your posts are cherry-picked and cobbled, like your knowledge of the times. I'm not out to convert you though, be my guest, continue to promote antique discord. Nor will I take time to disprove your cynical view of the past which I suspect is an effort to make your present view more presentable. Those of us who lived those times, the good and the bad, will soon be beyond your pompous pronouncements anyway. BTW, I presume you have more than what you posted as documentation of your 'facts', like say the testimony of two men?

" Nor will I take time to disprove..."

Right.

Two posts by you with not the slightest hint of any more than "is not....is not......"

My posts are linked, sourced, quoted....

You are free to do the extensive research on any of 'em.


Here's a really fun place for you to start...."Koba The Dread: Laughter And The Twenty Million," by Martin Amis.

Check out the man Franklin Roosevelt fell in love with.

PC.....your posts can be counted on as factual. You do an excellent job of sourcing your material, in addition to having studied most of what you post. I have often wished I had more time in the mornings to follow the good threads. USMB HAS the perfect audience for you... You are unto yourself when it comes to excellence in posting and you provide great fodder for the hungry. May you continue to soar. The site needs you.

I'm speechless, sis.

So sorry the changes have kept you away from here.....loved seeing you post every day.

Thanks sweetie. I have found better shores myself but I do drop in here early some mornings to see if there is anything worth reading or responding to. Anything you post would be but I haven't the time to stay.

I also like to see olé buds, too. Some of them are liberals but because I have fond memories of them, having known their other sides for many years, I don't read them in anything politically controversial. I like to keep with the good feelings for them. It helps keep me flexible so I don't bend out of shape. lol

Coyote, Derideo_Te, Pogo, @ToroJakeStarkey ( ? ) More but can't think of them right now. Also my bud Jakey does say he is a Republican, I read often here where that is questionable by many posters. Either way, he is a bud.

But PC...you are the best and most loyal bud of the longest years and for that, I am grateful and continue to come here just to read a few paragraphs of your learned postings...

Bless you....be happy wherever you decide to land!

 

[Camp]

Are you a liar or just a dunce. You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...". Did you somehow miss the portion of your study of this topic about Hitler demanding a halt to sea traffic and trade across the Atlantic to supply Britain with weapons and supplies? Gosh you missed the part where FDR told him to fuck off and continued the trade with US Navy escorts. They had these little incidents of the US Navy attacking the German Navy and the German Navy attacking the US Navy. This was before war was even declared. It was called the undeclared war and was a battle with German submarines in the north Atlantic.
You really need to get away from those propaganda revisionist writings and study some historical works by authors that are actually recognized by institutions of higher learning.

Are you a liar or just a dunce. You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...". Did you somehow miss the portion of your study of this topic about Hitler demanding a halt to sea traffic and trade across the Atlantic to supply Britain with weapons and supplies? Gosh you missed the part where FDR told him to fuck off and continued the trade with US Navy escorts. They had these little incidents of the US Navy attacking the German Navy and the German Navy attacking the US Navy. This was before war was even declared. It was called the undeclared war and was a battle with German submarines in the north Atlantic.
You really need to get away from those propaganda revisionist writings and study some historical works by authors that are actually recognized by institutions of higher learning.

Are you a liar or just a dunce. You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...". Did you somehow miss the portion of your study of this topic about Hitler demanding a halt to sea traffic and trade across the Atlantic to supply Britain with weapons and supplies? Gosh you missed the part where FDR told him to fuck off and continued the trade with US Navy escorts. They had these little incidents of the US Navy attacking the German Navy and the German Navy attacking the US Navy. This was before war was even declared. It was called the undeclared war and was a battle with German submarines in the north Atlantic.
You really need to get away from those propaganda revisionist writings and study some historical works by authors that are actually recognized by institutions of higher learning.

"You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...."

See...caught you lying again!!

I never said any such thing.

It is in your post and the one I quoted. Are you going to weasel out of it because you used it as a question that implied it as a fact?

Well...then let's let everyone see the post you claim to have quoted, and see that you continue to lie:

Here, post #51:

"Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration."


Still wanna say I said that Roosevelt "defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.."

...or did I pose a Litmus Test for your claim of his being a man with a "moral compass"?



Don't ever object when I tell all that you are a liar.

Now you are just running a lame con job to try and cover up the fact you got caught promoting more misinformation. Litmus test your ass. You posed a question that insinuated FDR was being cooperative with Hitler and thought you could get away with it because you have no knowledge or clue about the topic you are discussing. These were the ships FDR ordered to answer Hitler before there was a declared war. Look them up and learn something about how FDR treated Hitler. You need to learn about the sacrifices made by brave men so that you still have the right to spew the garbage and anti American crap you litter the net with.

USS KEARNY
USS GREER
USS REUBEN JAMES
USS NIBLACK
USCGC NORTHLAND

You always have your ass kicked when you go after FDR and your dopey conspiracy theories. Why do you persist?

Ooooo.....look at the liar squirm!

Here, post #51...again:

"Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration."



You can run but you can't hide.

What you are saying is that because FDR did not defend Hitler in the things you mention, he indeed did have moral character.
Make up your mind. You want to go the FDR having moral character route or the word scam route that implies he didn't. You can't have both. Pick one or the other.
Notice you ignored the freedom of conscience and religion thing that proved FDR brought religious freedom to Americans in the USSR. Have you read that document yet?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...."

See...caught you lying again!!

I never said any such thing.

It is in your post and the one I quoted. Are you going to weasel out of it because you used it as a question that implied it as a fact?

Well...then let's let everyone see the post you claim to have quoted, and see that you continue to lie:

Here, post #51:

"Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration."


Still wanna say I said that Roosevelt "defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.."

...or did I pose a Litmus Test for your claim of his being a man with a "moral compass"?



Don't ever object when I tell all that you are a liar.

Now you are just running a lame con job to try and cover up the fact you got caught promoting more misinformation. Litmus test your ass. You posed a question that insinuated FDR was being cooperative with Hitler and thought you could get away with it because you have no knowledge or clue about the topic you are discussing. These were the ships FDR ordered to answer Hitler before there was a declared war. Look them up and learn something about how FDR treated Hitler. You need to learn about the sacrifices made by brave men so that you still have the right to spew the garbage and anti American crap you litter the net with.

USS KEARNY
USS GREER
USS REUBEN JAMES
USS NIBLACK
USCGC NORTHLAND

You always have your ass kicked when you go after FDR and your dopey conspiracy theories. Why do you persist?

Ooooo.....look at the liar squirm!

Here, post #51...again:

"Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration."



You can run but you can't hide.

What you are saying is that because FDR did not defend Hitler in the things you mention, he indeed did have moral character.
Make up your mind. You want to go the FDR having moral character route or the word scam route that implies he didn't. You can't have both. Pick one or the other.
Notice you ignored the freedom of conscience and religion thing that proved FDR brought religious freedom to Americans in the USSR. Have you read that document yet?

This is what you wrote in post #54...

"You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...".


It was a lie, wasn't it.
You're a liar.

Then, you tried to bluff your way out, with this: "It is in your post and the one I quoted. Are you going to weasel out of it because you used it as a question that implied it as a fact?"

Of course, I did no such thing.
You're a liar.


Then you tried this: "Now you are just running a lame con job to try and cover up the fact you got caught promoting more misinformation. Litmus test your ass. You posed a question that insinuated FDR was being cooperative with Hitler and thought you could get away with it..."


Of course, I did no such thing.
You're a liar.

This is exactly what I posted:"Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration."


I'm having such a good time making you look like Ralph Kramden....

 

[PoliticalChic]

"You are claiming FDR "defended, lied for, supported and agreed with every demand Adolf Hitler asked for...."

See...caught you lying again!!

I never said any such thing.

It is in your post and the one I quoted. Are you going to weasel out of it because you used it as a question that implied it as a fact?

Well...then let's let everyone see the post you claim to have quoted, and see that you continue to lie:

Here, post #51:

"Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration."


Still wanna say I said that Roosevelt "defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.."

...or did I pose a Litmus Test for your claim of his being a man with a "moral compass"?



Don't ever object when I tell all that you are a liar.

Now you are just running a lame con job to try and cover up the fact you got caught promoting more misinformation. Litmus test your ass. You posed a question that insinuated FDR was being cooperative with Hitler and thought you could get away with it because you have no knowledge or clue about the topic you are discussing. These were the ships FDR ordered to answer Hitler before there was a declared war. Look them up and learn something about how FDR treated Hitler. You need to learn about the sacrifices made by brave men so that you still have the right to spew the garbage and anti American crap you litter the net with.

USS KEARNY
USS GREER
USS REUBEN JAMES
USS NIBLACK
USCGC NORTHLAND

You always have your ass kicked when you go after FDR and your dopey conspiracy theories. Why do you persist?

Ooooo.....look at the liar squirm!

Here, post #51...again:

"Had he defended, lied for, supported, and agreed with every demand Adolph Hitler asked for.....would he be "a man with a moral compass"?
Of course not.

Yet, by every possible metric, Joseph Stalin was worse than Adolph Hitler...from genocide to concentration camps to world domination....to insinuation of his spies in the American administration."



You can run but you can't hide.

What you are saying is that because FDR did not defend Hitler in the things you mention, he indeed did have moral character.
Make up your mind. You want to go the FDR having moral character route or the word scam route that implies he didn't. You can't have both. Pick one or the other.
Notice you ignored the freedom of conscience and religion thing that proved FDR brought religious freedom to Americans in the USSR. Have you read that document yet?

Everybody who reads it knows that I said no such thing.

Squirm, baby, squirm.