Ten years is up.....time to release everyone from Gitmo

[ClosedCaption]

Do the accused get to participate in these reviews? Are they entitled to representation? Can they refute the evidence or lack of evidence against them?

We are America for christ sakes, we are supposed to be better than this

They're terrorists.....try to keep that in perspective.

I think he longs for another attack. That's why he so desperately wants them released.. Last i heard they're under military jurisdication, they're terrorists and they were picked up on the battlefield. no trial needed..

 

[ClosedCaption]

What a bunch of mamby pamby bullshit. Grow some fucking balls and man up. Who gives a fuck about some so called moral high ground when compared to the scum of the earth we are detaining.

You fucking bleeding heart libs are a joke. A laughing stock.

Yup, just need to have another 9-11 to happen again. Some just forget about the past.

 

[dblack]

They don't need a day in court but rather a date with the executioner.

What specific offenses are you referencing to justify executing, or even imprisoning, these people? And if you intend to impose the word, "terrorism," please include specific descriptions of their actions. What did they do and how do we know they did it?

I'm not being a smart-ass. These are valid, important, and necessary questions.

I dunno Mike. Once they get caught in the circular trap of:

"They're terrorists!!!"

"How do you know without looking at the evidence and prosecuting them?"

"They don't deserve 'due process'!!!"

"Why not?

"They're terorrists!!!"

it's more or less impossible to break them out of that loop.

Maybe it was too many Dirty Harry movies. They seem to have an overriding fear that the bad guy is going to get off on a 'technicality'.

 

[MikeK]

Our govt is mandated with protecting us and that is what they are doing. All you and those who think like you are doing is undermining that very mandate.

Non-responsive answer.

Just remember this thread when the government starts pulling people off the streets under the new powers it's granted itself and turns them in to the military without trial or an attorney. Don't think it won't happen, either.

Baseless rhetoric.

It's not baseless rhetoric. It's already happened at least once that we know about: Jose Padilla. Citizen. Arrested, denied Habeas Corpus, held incommunicado and exposed to conditions which have rendered him mentally incompetent.

Whether Padilla is guilty of everything he was accused of is not relevant -- because what if he isn't? About once a month we read about another individual who has served many years in prison but has been found to be innocent of the charges that put him there. So mistakes are possible even under the best of circumstances.

The right to proper arraignment and Habeas Corpus should not be denied. NDAA does in fact deny those fundamental protections and it places American jurisprudence on a slippery slope.

 

[MikeK]

They don't need a day in court but rather a date with the executioner.

What harm will a day in court be to a government with overwhelming evidence of their guilt?

Our govt is mandated with protecting us and that is what they are doing. All you and those who think like you are doing is undermining that very mandate.

How did the Vietnam "conflict" protect us?

How did invading and occupying Iraq protect us?

Our government happens to be very good at pissing off people like Osama bin Laden and his peers. Not very good at protecting us from their rage.

 

[rightwinger]

Open for 10 years on Wednesday, the prison seems more established than ever. The deadline set by President Obama to close Guantanamo came and went two years ago. No detainee has left in a year because of restrictions on transfers, and indefinite military detention is now enshrined in U.S. law.
The 10th anniversary will be the subject of demonstrations in London and Washington. Prisoners at the U.S. Navy base in Cuba plan to mark the day with sit-ins, banners and a refusal of meals, said Ramzi Kassem, a lawyer who represents seven inmates.

Today, Guantanamo holds 171 prisoners and it's an odd mix. Thirty-six await trial on war crimes charges, including the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks. There are 46 in indefinite detention as men the U.S. considers dangerous but who cannot be charged for lack of evidence or other reasons. The U.S. wants to release 32 but hasn't, largely because of congressional restrictions, and 57 men from Yemen, like al-Nahdi, aren't being charged but the government won't let them go because their country is unstable.
"There is not a thing keeping them from going home except that our clever government is waiting for conditions to improve in Yemen, where they have only deteriorated," said John Chandler, a lawyer based in Atlanta, Georgia, who represents al-Nahdi.

Guantanamo prison turns 10; closure hopes fade