Tell us again why government should run air traffic control...

[eflatminor]

Yet ANOTHER story of FAA incompetence:

Midnight Was Movie Hour, Nap Time in New York Air Tower - Bloomberg

We got government out of regulating the airline business after which prices dropped dramatically, service improved and customer choice expanded. Still the planners insist on controlling air traffic...and what a job they're doing!

Canada took steps to deregulate their air traffic control with no adverse side effects. Time for us to do the same, if not for logic and reason, but because there is nothing in the Constitution allowing the feds to control air traffic.

 

[uscitizen]

Maybe they ran better before Reagan fired them?

 

[boilermaker55]

No you have it completely wrong. The air traffic controlers now are all non-union asses.
Remember ronnie raygun fired the union workers for looking for better conditions.
You pay for what you get.

 

[eflatminor]

Maybe they ran better before Reagan fired them?

There is no evidence to suggest that is the case. Zero. More importantly, there is amble evidence to suggest a private company that faces competition and the necessity to please their customers or go out of business, would run air control better, much better. No private company could possibly do worse, not without being immediately replaced with a superior competitor. That's the problem with government run entities, no competition, so no need to thrive or keep costs under control. Hell, just take a nap when the urge arises...what, is someone going to fire the government?!

 

[g5000]

Maybe they ran better before Reagan fired them?

There is no evidence to suggest that is the case. Zero. More importantly, there is amble evidence to suggest a private company that faces competition and the necessity to please their customers or go out of business, would run air control better, much better.

Then you should have no difficulty citing that evidence.

 

[g5000]

No private company could possibly do worse, not without being immediately replaced with a superior competitor.

Which private company replaced BP after the Deepwater Horizon disaster?

 

[eflatminor]

Maybe they ran better before Reagan fired them?

There is no evidence to suggest that is the case. Zero. More importantly, there is amble evidence to suggest a private company that faces competition and the necessity to please their customers or go out of business, would run air control better, much better.

Then you should have no difficulty citing that evidence.

Start here:

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/The-Road-Serfdom-Fiftieth-Anniversary/dp/0226320618"]http://www.amazon.com/The-Road-Serfdom-Fiftieth-Anniversary/dp/0226320618[/ame]

 

[g5000]

There is no evidence to suggest that is the case. Zero. More importantly, there is amble evidence to suggest a private company that faces competition and the necessity to please their customers or go out of business, would run air control better, much better.

Then you should have no difficulty citing that evidence.

Start here:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/The-Road-Serfdom-Fiftieth-Anniversary/dp/0226320618]Amazon.com: The Road to Serfdom: Fiftieth Anniversary Edition (9780226320618): F. A. Hayek, Milton Friedman: Books[/ame]

I've read it. Have it on my Kindle, as a matter of fact.

Now do you have any actual evidence a private company could better manage air traffic control and not have controllers taking naps or playing games, or not?

 

[eflatminor]

No private company could possibly do worse, not without being immediately replaced with a superior competitor.

Which private company replaced BP after the Deepwater Horizon disaster?

First, that's quite the red herring. You always have the much trouble focusing?

Anyway, are you suggesting BP is the only oil company drilling...like the FAA is the only entity controlling air traffic? Wow...you must not get out much.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Now do you have any actual evidence a private company could better manage air traffic control and not have controllers taking naps or playing games, or not?

we assume a private company would do better since it would have competition!!

Imagine someone who jogs for fun and someone who races in life and death competition? Who would be a faster runner? Now you understand competiton and how it makes us better. Not so hard was it?

 

[eflatminor]

Then you should have no difficulty citing that evidence.

Start here:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/The-Road-Serfdom-Fiftieth-Anniversary/dp/0226320618]Amazon.com: The Road to Serfdom: Fiftieth Anniversary Edition (9780226320618): F. A. Hayek, Milton Friedman: Books[/ame]

I've read it. Have it on my Kindle, as a matter of fact.

Now do you have any actual evidence a private company could better manage air traffic control and not have controllers taking naps or playing games, or not?

Yes. You can fire the private company. You cannot fire the government.

 

[DaGoose]

Tell us again why government should run air traffic control...

Maybe it's because air traffic is vital to our national interest and people that fly would not like what would happen to the cost of flying without government help.

Don't matter to me though. I don't fly commercial airlines. I drive (or ride) everywhere I go and love it.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Which private company replaced BP after the Deepwater Horizon disaster?

It was an accident that cost them billions and is still costing them billions more. Why replace them when we need the oil, they can produce it, and pay for the accident? If a new company appeared that could guarantee a safer operation and the same production I'd go for it but its hardly likely. Welcome to the real world

 

[g5000]

No private company could possibly do worse, not without being immediately replaced with a superior competitor.

Which private company replaced BP after the Deepwater Horizon disaster?

First, that's quite the red herring. You always have the much trouble focusing?

I saw where you were going. So I provided an example of a private company which had a major fuckup. One far more serious than some guys taking a nap on their break.

You cited Hayek. Does Hayek only apply to air traffic controllers?

 

[g5000]

Now do you have any actual evidence a private company could better manage air traffic control and not have controllers taking naps or playing games, or not?

we assume a private company would do better since it would have competition!!

Imagine someone who jogs for fun and someone who races in life and death competition? Who would be a faster runner? Now you understand competiton and how it makes us better. Not so hard was it?

Assume.

So you guys have no evidence. Just simplistic concepts of "competition".

 

[Darkwind]

Still waiting on proof that government is doing a better job than the private sector.

 

[DaGoose]

Now do you have any actual evidence a private company could better manage air traffic control and not have controllers taking naps or playing games, or not?

we assume a private company would do better since it would have competition!!

Imagine someone who jogs for fun and someone who races in life and death competition? Who would be a faster runner? Now you understand competiton and how it makes us better. Not so hard was it?

Assume.

So you guys have no evidence. Just simplistic concepts of "competition".

Simplistic brains hatch simplistic concepts.

 

[g5000]

Anyway, are you suggesting BP is the only oil company drilling...like the FAA is the only entity controlling air traffic? Wow...you must not get out much.

Now you've stepped in it. Thanks.

So you want the FAA to go away and you want several competitive companies to run air traffic control.

No private company could possibly do worse, not without being immediately replaced with a superior competitor.

As evidenced by Deepwater Horizon, a private company with several competitors that fucked up in a big way would NOT be replaced. Now would it?


And you seem to believe that private companies are magically exempt from employees goofing off on the job. We have a drunken oil tanker captain at Exxon who would differ with you.

Welcome to the real world, kids.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So you guys have no evidence. Just simplistic concepts of "competition".

Simplistic brains hatch simplistic concepts.[/QUOTE]




do you assume competition makes people and businesses worse or better at price and quality? Did American car companies get better or worse thanks to Japanese competition??

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow?? What other conclusion is possible????

 

[g5000]

We also have private airlines which carelessly crash aircraft all the time. Way more often than air traffic controllers.

We have drunken pilots. We have pilots playing games on their laptops who overshoot their destination by 150 MILES and intitiate a search because they were dicking around.

Hmmmm...