Tell Me Why Profiling is WRONG and a BAD Law Enforcement Policy???

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  1. GHook93
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    I know the PC response, not all black people are criminals, not all Hispanics are illegals, not all Muslims are terrorists etc. and they have some legitimacy, but it's doesn't defute the fact that profiling is necessary.

    For instances, ask any Chicago Cop, if he sees a car full of white kids near Humbolt Park, he pulls them over immediately, because they are on their way to purchase drugs or have purchased drugs.

    I talked to a cop buddy of mine who works in a bad part of the city. Nearly all black. Whites get pulled over immediately (doesn't matter how many in the car). A car full of blacks gets pulled over, because in his experience, 9 out of 10 times, he finds things above weed possession.

    Now take a black youth in a white neighborhood looking like a thug, why wouldn't a cop or NEIGHBORHOOD watch personal view this person as suspicious. They don't need to arrest him, but they could question him. Heck even a thuggish or drug addict looking white person should be questioned!

    Profiling is done for serial killers. First thing they profile is a middle aged white guy and then go from there.

    Sorry Muslims, but you are the majority of terrorists in the WORLD at the moment, you should be viewed with extra scrutiny in terrorist cases and vulnerable areas.

    Profiling isn't without it's victims, but it's a necessary evil in protecting one's community and law enforcement!
     
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    Profiling is necessary and will continue no matter how many protests there are against it. But it's not racial profiling, it's behavioral profiling. It's just that sometimes non whites have behavioral profiles that indicate they are criminals. You could not have law enforcement without profiling.
     
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    The Conservative Hypocrisy:

    1. We love the Constitution more than anyone else.

    2. We love Profiling more than anyone else.
     
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    Like pulling over and searching cars with anti-abortion bumper stickers on them because all abortion terrorists are anti-abortion?
     
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    VIDEO: Race and Crime Report - C-SPAN Video Library

    2005 numbers http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html

    Crime Rates
    • Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
    • When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
    • Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
    • The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

    Interracial Crime
    • Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
    • Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
    • Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
    • Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

    Gangs
    • Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
    • Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

    Incarceration
    • Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
    • Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

    How you should break it to future generations: http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire/print#axzz2Zt28imae


     
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    No one is saying to value one citizen over another. Simply use limited resources to go after criminals where we know they are. If a white neighborhoods crime rate is higher than that of a black neighborhood then I would have the same opinion. If there are 5 elderly people and a 25 year old around the scene of a crime involving an assault, which one would you profile? Is that ageism? Are you a bigot toward young people or do you have a bias in favor of the elderly? For starters my money would be on the 25 year old. Indeed, most people in our prison systems are under the age of 30. STOP THE ASSAULT ON OUR NATIONS YOUTH!? Must be systematic ageism inherent in the system huh? No, it's just common sense. Or perhaps is Elderly privilege? White Privilege? What about Asian Privilege? No, just common sense.
     
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    Profiling is a difficult issue because it brings the bad old days back to the minds of Black people.

    An innocent Black man does often see fear in a White woman when he is around her in a vulnerable situation, and he justifiably resents it. (Innocent Southerners also resent the regular profiling of them as illiterate rednecks and crackers. )

    But the resentment to profiling by Black men doesn't account for the statistics.

    About 5 percent of the population...Black males at a crime-committing age of about 15 to 45...commit almost 50 percent of the murders in this country. Its at a rate of around 10 times of Whites.

    So is a White woman a racist for being 10 times more afraid of Black men....or is she prudent?
     
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    "There are liars, damn liars and statistics"

    Numbers don't tell the whole story, and can be used to 'prove' any point.

    BTW, the link posted in #5 above doesn't work.
     
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    Typical. Ignore the MASSIVE problems within your own community while pointing to some other RARE problem.

    YOU ARE part of the problem.
     
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