Teachers caught cheating on student test scores

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    This could be considered some big time fraud, as it involves large amounts of federal money.

    One thing I take from the article is the writers apparent dislike of standardized tests in general. My question becomes that without them, how do you quantify a students progress, and a teachers performance, in a repeatable and fair manner?
     
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    I've always wondered what the motivator was for public employees to be moral and ethical. We hear so much from the left about how morally bankrupt and corrupt "free enterprise" is because of profit motive -- while ignoring all the natural consequences of the marketplace for evil doing....

    Can anyone on the left tell me why these public servants shouldn't cook the books and cheat?
     
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    Well, we are constantly told by the left that when their side does something bad it's not really bad because they don't believe in standards. Using that assertion, then the only reasonable answer to your question is that nothing is wrong.

    Unfortunately, to those of us who recognize good and evil, to those of us who acknowledge that we were created by a wise and benevolent Heavenly Father, that we are accountable before Him for our actions and that we will be judged before Him someday, there is quite a bit of reason.

    1) Personal integrity
    2) Charity toward the children
    3) A love for an honest days work.
    4) A desire for self government.

    etc
     
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    It's not cheating, it's Affirmative Action.
     
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    Education is a racket. It's an hierarchy-based feifdom infected with nepotism and favoritism.

    If it's truly "public education" then let the public invest their dollars, not through taxes but through private investment. Trade shares on the open market. Have managers that aren't afraid to fire non-productive NON UNION members. It's a total fuck up.

    There are no parameters for identifying the good teachers and the mechanism for firing the bad ones is onerous.

    Here's another example of the Education Racket:

    3 Calif. moms accused of using PTA in Ponzi scheme - Yahoo! News

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Three former PTA mothers used their connection with a suburban elementary school to recruit investors in a phony $14 million get-rich-quick scheme, authorities said Wednesday.

    The alleged Ponzi-style scam lasted more than two years before an irate investor filed a complaint last year, sparking an investigation that led to the arrests Tuesday of three women, said Lt. Steve Katz of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.

    The alleged swindle started in 2008 when the women told fellow PTA members they had the exclusive right to sell products from a well-known local dairy to Disneyland, Disney hotels and other small retailers.
     
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    What they call education is just the excuse for the real reason.

    Since double-entry accounting is 700 years old shouldn't that be a mandatory part of the curriculum if EDUCATION was the true objective. There have been cases of college students committing suicide after creating too much credit card debt. But I have never seen making accounting mandatory in the high schools as a way to make them smart enough to not create the debt.

    I looks more like the schools are designed to produce people knowledgeable enough to be of use but not smart enough to best be useful to themselves. The problem is in the psychology of the culture. Just the modern method of producing indentured servants without a particular master.

    psik
     
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    We put way too much emphasis on test scores. We reward or punish teachers, principals, schools, and districts based on test scores. As a result teachers teach kids how to pass the test.

    The first year a new test is introduced, the kids usually do poorly. Each year they do better because the teachers learn what material is on the test and they teach to the test. After a few years the district is congratulating the staff on doing such a good job. It's nonsense.
     
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    All because the feel good liberals destroyed the education system with nonsense like " grades can cause hurt feelings and low self esteem, we should get rid of grades" and other such nonsense.

    Did you know History is no longer taught until High School? Before that it is Social Studies where they learn about "different cultures" Instead of facts about historical events and actual history they learn about what people thought about and other nonsense.
     

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