Teacher-tenure trap: States' harmful school rules

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    Tenure is the biggest problem with our education system.

     
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    Go ahead and eliminate teacher tenure.

    Your kid will still be behind because you didn't read to him and take his education seriously.


    Blame the teachers all you want. You get to live wtih the kid.
     
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    I am fully in favor of parental responsibility as far as giving the child the correct attitude toward learning.

    And in the interests of full disclosure, I home-school my children.

    But for most if not all parents, there will come a point where the curriculum will be beyond
    the ability of the parent. Teachers are necessary, and the balance between tenure and performance is yet to be determined.

    But my question is why is the university off the hook? Every teacher is prepared for the career by an education department. Why isn't accreditation of the university ed department pulled if their teacher-canditates fail at the job?

    How difficult would it be to computer-track teachers and the university that trained them?
     
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    Another teacher here asked me what I thought. Well I'm in a parochial school, no such thing as tenure. Indeed, even our contracts are flexible. I may find out in Aug. that they will not pay me what they said they would last week.

    So, if I was in public schools or at university level, I'm pretty much with tenure, though I think there should be caveats that are NOT there now. Bad teachers, meaning those who do not teach, are abusive, etc., should not be so hard to fire. One-five complaints do not a bad teacher make. Five or more, in the same week? Would be worth more than a look. Doesn't happen and that is wrong.

    Related would be pay increases to performance. The same sort of rub. If I'm teaching a class with 20 kids, 15 are low income or ESL if most of them come out at grade level, I should be considered a 'wonderful teacher.' On the other hand, if teaching in a well-to-do suburb, with kids of mostly college grads and those kids are 100% at grade level, I'm doing something wrong. Has nothing to do with the kids innate abilities, has everything to do with the marks I'm setting and trying to hit.
     

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