Teacher suspended for letting class vote out autistic boy

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    Teacher suspended for letting class vote out autistic boy

     
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    The 'teacher' needs to be fired and have her teaching certs pulled. I hope the mom follows through with the lawsuit.
     
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    Here's the teacher:

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    why shouldnt he be aware that you are judged by your behavior? that you cannot disrupt the family or community in a destructive manner...who speaks for the kids who are being cheated by this one child? was there a teacher's aid in the classroom for this child? what was this class ratio...of teacher to child...do you realize how much attention one child like this takes away from the class? why are yall acting like this teacher is to be condemned....dont we all judge and vote on our peer group daily? who we go to lunch with...who we dont ask for drinks etc? why are we going to shield kids from the reality of life? emotional abuse is telling the brats that life is fair and just and easy...bullshit...tell them the truth...we are dealing we a generation already that has been pampered to death....let us take this 8 yr old who may have killed his father and the boarder....o now everyone is singing the blues...cause there was no adult there when the kid was questioned...well guess what...if he hadnt shot his dad..there would have been an adult there...i see the kid is gonna be allowed to spend the holidays with his mom...i wonder how well she will sleep?
     
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    As a teacher, she should have made the call herself without involving the kids. I'm glad the school took appropriate actions against the teacher.
     
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    strollingbones wrote:
    As a Special Education teacher, I totally understand what you are saying here, Strollingbones. We teachers talk DAILY about the impact students with special needs, emotional needs, discipline needs have on the majority of the student body.

    I agree with your questions - where was this student's paraprofessional or TSS? Where was the assistance this teacher so obviously needed in the classroom?

    But I also know the reality of the Special Education system. Sometimes, there isn't enough money for an individual aide, so schools try to go without. Sometimes, parents do not want their children saddled with the "stigma" of an adult following them around all day, so students who need aides do not have them. Sometimes, the procedures used to acquire a paraprofessional take months of data collection, meetings to plan those arrangements take weeks...and sometimes things just slip through the cracks.

    HOWEVER...a teacher does NOT have the right to humiliate a young child in front of his/her peers. She does NOT have the right to hold that child up for scorn and derision and ENCOURAGE students to mock and tease that child.

    That isn't an education...that is abuse.

    As a teacher - I can tell you that this woman SHOULD have been calling the child's IEP team together MUCH sooner to discuss the behavioral challenges she was seeing in the classroom. A behavior plan to deal with this behaviors SHOULD have been in place and documentation as to its effectiveness SHOULD have been done. The team should have been working together frequently to determine if a paraprofessional was needed, if a new behavior plan was needed, if the child was in the wrong placement and needed a most specialized classroom...etc.

    What should NOT have happened was Survivor: Kindergarten.

    This teacher should be fired. A tenured educator should know better - and this sort of vigilante, "it makes me feel good to let all the little kids pick on the brat who's been driving me nuts for months" behavior makes ALL teachers look unprofessional.
     
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    Barton to the front of the class and asked students to tell the boy what they didn't like about his behavior and how it impacted them.

    Barton said the teacher allowed his classmates to call him "disgusting" and "annoying."

    you see this as mocking? people have real thin skins then...

    mainstreaming was a bad idea when they came up with it...and hasnt gotten any better...pretty soon you will have no teachers...no one can function under the conditions many teachers are being ask to function under.

    and while i am on my damned rant....why is everyone labeling kids with illnesses and drugging them....i know a lot of kids do have problems but the labeling has just gotten outta hand..fancy ass names when a lot of times the kid is nothng but a brat who needs a good ass smacking...but too many parents want to be "friends" to their kids..well guess what...you aint their friends..and it is a good thing for a kid to be afraid of their parents...
     
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    He was in kindergarten, strollingbones!!! We're not talking about a full-grown man who isn't doing his job.

    Perfectly normal kindergarteners break into hysterical sobs when you tell them they colored outside the lines - but you think its ok to have a child with a severe developmental disorder be forced to listen to his peers call him disgusting?

    I think your rant has gone a bit overboard, here.

    There were other, better, more professional, and legal ways for this teacher to handle this situation. Ways that would have helped the situation - taught the kid some control and how to interact with his peers and in a classroom setting...or ways that would have demonstrated that he shouldn't be there in the first place. Time-consuming, yes...but CORRECT. Just because it made her (and you, apparently) feel good for a little bit - striking out at one child because of her/your anger at the inclusion model - doesn't mean its right.

    Humiliating a child in front of his peers is not education. Sorry.
     
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    I would agree that the teacher ought to be disciplined... but I think termination is a bit much.

    From my POV, it's just as wrong to ask a bunch of 5 year-olds to normalize a peer as it is to ask them to discipline him. Special needs kids need to be in special education programs, not "mainstreamed" to the detriment of the other kids.

    If this one child is habitually disruptive... then SEVENTEEN other children are paying the price for it. That's not fair. And one imagines that in particularly difficult cases, a regular classroom teacher, who isn't specifically trained to deal with disability, can make mistakes.

    The link has a picture of the little boy in question... and he's a really cute kid. My heart goes out to him. But I bet those other 17 are pretty cute kids too. They shouldn't have their first taste of the schoolroom marred by constant upheaval and they shouldn't be asked to either discipline or train special needs students.
     

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