Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery...

[Moonglow]

They paid for nothing.

And why do leftists love the life that Stalin gave his slaves, but cant find anything good to say about historical slavery?

Which leftist are those?

 

[Moonglow]

depends on the maturity of the kids----in the kind of school that does not
create classes dependent on intellect and social maturity and just puts
all kids together-----it would not be a good idea------think a little more
about it

Cry all you want, that's the usual age to start learning critical thinking skills. Abstract ideas are learned around that time and they go hand in hand.

all true----but in racially diverse schools----I can imagine all kinds of
crap going on after class in the playground. Not all 8th graders are
READY

Your imagination has nothing to do with reality.

I grew up in a TOWN------all the kids went to the same middle school-----
ALL. bright kids, supid kids, nasty kids. There were times when
the girls (got that? GIRLS!!!) hanging out in the lavatories cutting class----
were so NASTY that the principal locked the lavatory doors (quite a problem for me) Those girls would use ANY material to be REALLY NASTY to
the point of physical confrontation-------it was an ALL WHITE TOWN-----
but there were even "protestant" vs "catholic" confrontations. I would hate
to think what would have taken place if there were black students there.
Enough adolescents are nasty bastard and bitches---that there is no reason
to PROVIDE them with material. The US history of slavery is a very sensitive
topic

Teaching children is what teachers should do. Critical thinking skills are important whether you get upset or not.

Thinking skills scare them..

 

[Correll]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

The school is just one more PC Idiocracy. EVERYTHING has a + and a - side to it, even slavery, that is the nature of the universe, otherwise there never would have been slaves! It was a lesson in critical thinking, thinking outside the box, not justification of slavery, but now thanks to fear of PC, these kids will lose a valuable lesson in looking at something very bad and seeing that even such things have their positive aspects. The Chinese call it yin and yang, but in the Dumbed Down States of America, our poor kids are not allowed to think and learn freely, being told by their "school" that you are only allowed to believe that things like slavery, war, old age, illness and even death are all bad with nothing good or positive to ever be gleaned, taken or learned from them.

And asking the question does not mean that the good and negative aspects would balance out, or not be horrifically slanted to the negative.


It sounds like an excellent assignment to really get the kids thinking.

 

[deanrd]

Have you seen life in Africa? Can you spell U-P-G-R-A-D-E?

Why America steals doctors from poorer countries

surveys suggest that around 75% of the world's best universities are in the US

In most countries, especially in the developing world, doctors are trained at public expense. If a doctor from Ghana is recruited to the US, not only does Ghana lose its doctor, it loses the money paid for the training. It may be that the doctor is likely to send a portion of earnings back home (known in the development business as "remittances"). But this is scant compensation. In sum, the US is receiving a massive subsidy from the developing world in training its medical staff.

------------------

People like this don't become doctors. They NEED doctors:

 

[irosie91]

The question, of itself, is not offensive. On the contrary, education should constructively challenge the developing intellect of students.
The positives of slavery did not go to the slaves, for example, but to the owners and their economic system. A student could and should have been able to see that, at least. Ultimately, the question could have led to the answer, "There were no positives for the victims of this practice".
They should also have learned about the context, that until relatively soon before the war to preserve the Union, slavery was common in the world and almost all cultures. Whites were not evil for having black slaves, just unenlightened.
Nuance seems less and less present in American social debate. Everything has to be 'good' or 'bad', and all according to the current mode and definition.

kids in the eighth grade are something like 13 or 14 years old------NOT A
GOOD AGE to being up the economic of social "pros" of slavery and its
miserable ramifications.-------that sort of issue can wait for sociology class
in college

Bullshit!

Not everyone goes to college, dumbass!

Where did you get your education degree?

kids in the eighth grade are something like 13 or 14 years old------NOT A
GOOD AGE to being up the economic of social "pros" of slavery and its
miserable ramifications.-------that sort of issue can wait for sociology class
in college

Kids are more than able to handle this issue at that age. Critical thinking skills are important and should be honed early.

depends on the maturity of the kids----in the kind of school that does not
create classes dependent on intellect and social maturity and just puts
all kids together-----it would not be a good idea------think a little more
about it

Cry all you want, that's the usual age to start learning critical thinking skills. Abstract ideas are learned around that time and they go hand in hand.

all true----but in racially diverse schools----I can imagine all kinds of
crap going on after class in the playground. Not all 8th graders are
READY

Your imagination has nothing to do with reality.

I would say that lots of Navy recruits are not ready either---
you may address me as Lcdr-----OR Ma'am

 

[irosie91]

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

There is the obvious one; victorious nations stopped merely slaughtering all their captives in war and instead enslaved them and let them work off their debt and go home after a few years.

when was that?

 

[irosie91]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

The school is just one more PC Idiocracy. EVERYTHING has a + and a - side to it, even slavery, that is the nature of the universe, otherwise there never would have been slaves! It was a lesson in critical thinking, thinking outside the box, not justification of slavery, but now thanks to fear of PC, these kids will lose a valuable lesson in looking at something very bad and seeing that even such things have their positive aspects. The Chinese call it yin and yang, but in the Dumbed Down States of America, our poor kids are not allowed to think and learn freely, being told by their "school" that you are only allowed to believe that things like slavery, war, old age, illness and even death are all bad with nothing good or positive to ever be gleaned, taken or learned from them.

And asking the question does not mean that the good and negative aspects would balance out, or not be horrifically slanted to the negative.


It sounds like an excellent assignment to really get the kids thinking.

depends on the kids you get into that kind of thing-----not all kids at are 13
are READY

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The question, of itself, is not offensive. On the contrary, education should constructively challenge the developing intellect of students.
The positives of slavery did not go to the slaves, for example, but to the owners and their economic system. A student could and should have been able to see that, at least. Ultimately, the question could have led to the answer, "There were no positives for the victims of this practice".
They should also have learned about the context, that until relatively soon before the war to preserve the Union, slavery was common in the world and almost all cultures. Whites were not evil for having black slaves, just unenlightened.
Nuance seems less and less present in American social debate. Everything has to be 'good' or 'bad', and all according to the current mode and definition.

kids in the eighth grade are something like 13 or 14 years old------NOT A
GOOD AGE to being up the economic of social "pros" of slavery and its
miserable ramifications.-------that sort of issue can wait for sociology class
in college

Bullshit!

Not everyone goes to college, dumbass!

Where did you get your education degree?

Kids are more than able to handle this issue at that age. Critical thinking skills are important and should be honed early.

depends on the maturity of the kids----in the kind of school that does not
create classes dependent on intellect and social maturity and just puts
all kids together-----it would not be a good idea------think a little more
about it

Cry all you want, that's the usual age to start learning critical thinking skills. Abstract ideas are learned around that time and they go hand in hand.

all true----but in racially diverse schools----I can imagine all kinds of
crap going on after class in the playground. Not all 8th graders are
READY

Your imagination has nothing to do with reality.

I would say that lots of Navy recruits are not ready either---
you may address me as Lcdr-----OR Ma'am

That would be inappropriate to address a subordinate in that manner.

Besides, starting Monday I will be working for the Army!



.

 

[Correll]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

The school is just one more PC Idiocracy. EVERYTHING has a + and a - side to it, even slavery, that is the nature of the universe, otherwise there never would have been slaves! It was a lesson in critical thinking, thinking outside the box, not justification of slavery, but now thanks to fear of PC, these kids will lose a valuable lesson in looking at something very bad and seeing that even such things have their positive aspects. The Chinese call it yin and yang, but in the Dumbed Down States of America, our poor kids are not allowed to think and learn freely, being told by their "school" that you are only allowed to believe that things like slavery, war, old age, illness and even death are all bad with nothing good or positive to ever be gleaned, taken or learned from them.

And asking the question does not mean that the good and negative aspects would balance out, or not be horrifically slanted to the negative.


It sounds like an excellent assignment to really get the kids thinking.

depends on the kids you get into that kind of thing-----not all kids at are 13
are READY

The majority would sit there like lumps, a few would actually do some work and come up with something.

Than you would have a debate, and the lumps would be exposed to some actual thoughts.


Probably a waste, but you never know, and optimism is a form of courage.

 

[USNavyVet]

The question, of itself, is not offensive. On the contrary, education should constructively challenge the developing intellect of students.
The positives of slavery did not go to the slaves, for example, but to the owners and their economic system. A student could and should have been able to see that, at least. Ultimately, the question could have led to the answer, "There were no positives for the victims of this practice".
They should also have learned about the context, that until relatively soon before the war to preserve the Union, slavery was common in the world and almost all cultures. Whites were not evil for having black slaves, just unenlightened.
Nuance seems less and less present in American social debate. Everything has to be 'good' or 'bad', and all according to the current mode and definition.

kids in the eighth grade are something like 13 or 14 years old------NOT A
GOOD AGE to being up the economic of social "pros" of slavery and its
miserable ramifications.-------that sort of issue can wait for sociology class
in college

Bullshit!

Not everyone goes to college, dumbass!

Where did you get your education degree?

Kids are more than able to handle this issue at that age. Critical thinking skills are important and should be honed early.

depends on the maturity of the kids----in the kind of school that does not
create classes dependent on intellect and social maturity and just puts
all kids together-----it would not be a good idea------think a little more
about it

Cry all you want, that's the usual age to start learning critical thinking skills. Abstract ideas are learned around that time and they go hand in hand.

all true----but in racially diverse schools----I can imagine all kinds of
crap going on after class in the playground. Not all 8th graders are
READY

Your imagination has nothing to do with reality.

I would say that lots of Navy recruits are not ready either---
you may address me as Lcdr-----OR Ma'am

Again you imagination has nothing to do with reality. Do you make this shit up just to be an asshole?

 

[harmonica]

In all honesty, and no offense to slaves, the cotton industry was inconsequential to the South and totally irrelevent to the North. I know, brainwashed folks like to think slaves actually built something, the Great Pyramid for example. Complete delusion. The reality is Blacks barely sustained the plantation they were on which sustained them. Sorry!

More importantly, WTF are public schools doing? Teaching facts or making snowflakes?

Well it’s obvious you wouldn’t know a fact if it kicked you in the ass. You just invented a history of slavery that matches your racist mentality. Cotton wasn’t important, that lie is so big your lips should shrivel and fall off. Slaves didn’t really build anything, how about they built this country stupid, and for nothing. Less than nothing really. What’s really sad is that racists, who know the truth of slavery, mislead the ignorant and lazy public into believing a perverse revision of our real history. You should be banned from any discussion based on factual history and truth.


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they didn't build this country--they picked cotton
please elaborate

 

[blastoff]

The question, of itself, is not offensive. On the contrary, education should constructively challenge the developing intellect of students.
The positives of slavery did not go to the slaves, for example, but to the owners and their economic system. A student could and should have been able to see that, at least. Ultimately, the question could have led to the answer, "There were no positives for the victims of this practice".
They should also have learned about the context, that until relatively soon before the war to preserve the Union, slavery was common in the world and almost all cultures. Whites were not evil for having black slaves, just unenlightened.
Nuance seems less and less present in American social debate. Everything has to be 'good' or 'bad', and all according to the current mode and definition.

People who constantly pound on about how bad and evil white folks in America were for keeping slaves generally ignore the fact that slavery's been around throughout mankind in all parts of the world. That's just the way man rolled for centuries; it was a natural part of life and not looked at as morally wrong or anything. Not saying it was right or endorsing it. That's just the way it was and it was handed down through generations across cultures, continents, etc.

 

[aaronleland]

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

Lol - The Great Bundy also said that they were obviously happy in those fields singing their spirituals and staying in tip top shape!

Exactly. Them Negros looked they was havin' a blast.

 

[harmonica]

to my understanding cotton was a big part of the economy--of the whites
without the whites, there wasn't a cotton gin, industry, economy, etc
even without slaves, the whites would have succeeded/advanced/etc anyway

 

[irosie91]

The question, of itself, is not offensive. On the contrary, education should constructively challenge the developing intellect of students.
The positives of slavery did not go to the slaves, for example, but to the owners and their economic system. A student could and should have been able to see that, at least. Ultimately, the question could have led to the answer, "There were no positives for the victims of this practice".
They should also have learned about the context, that until relatively soon before the war to preserve the Union, slavery was common in the world and almost all cultures. Whites were not evil for having black slaves, just unenlightened.
Nuance seems less and less present in American social debate. Everything has to be 'good' or 'bad', and all according to the current mode and definition.

kids in the eighth grade are something like 13 or 14 years old------NOT A
GOOD AGE to being up the economic of social "pros" of slavery and its
miserable ramifications.-------that sort of issue can wait for sociology class
in college

Bullshit!

Not everyone goes to college, dumbass!

Where did you get your education degree?

depends on the maturity of the kids----in the kind of school that does not
create classes dependent on intellect and social maturity and just puts
all kids together-----it would not be a good idea------think a little more
about it

Cry all you want, that's the usual age to start learning critical thinking skills. Abstract ideas are learned around that time and they go hand in hand.

all true----but in racially diverse schools----I can imagine all kinds of
crap going on after class in the playground. Not all 8th graders are
READY

Your imagination has nothing to do with reality.

I would say that lots of Navy recruits are not ready either---
you may address me as Lcdr-----OR Ma'am

Again you imagination has nothing to do with reality. Do you make this shit up just to be an asshole?

what shit? I am no longer Lcdr-----I separated about 35 years ago-----
you asked about my education. You do not really have to address me
as Ma'am

 

[Slimdugger99]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

The school is just one more PC Idiocracy. EVERYTHING has a + and a - side to it, even slavery, that is the nature of the universe, otherwise there never would have been slaves! It was a lesson in critical thinking, thinking outside the box, not justification of slavery, but now thanks to fear of PC, these kids will lose a valuable lesson in looking at something very bad and seeing that even such things have their positive aspects. The Chinese call it yin and yang, but in the Dumbed Down States of America, our poor kids are not allowed to think and learn freely, being told by their "school" that you are only allowed to believe that things like slavery, war, old age, illness and even death are all bad with nothing good or positive to ever be gleaned, taken or learned from them.

Only a white person in delusional denial thinks that there was anything positive about slavery. Especially in a nation whose credo reads “All men are created equal”, such conclusions would invite the enslavement of those privileged and in power presently. Maybe your opinion would be different if your ancestors and their progeny had been slaves.


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Oh. You mean like Hebrews? Native Americans? Irish folks? Asians?

Hebrews were slaves thousands of years ago in Egypt, Native Americans were never slaves, nor were the Irish or Asians, ever slaves in America. Or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe you’re the one who needs to go to school to learn the truth of slavery. Ignorance is a deal killer in these forums.



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[paperview]

The question, of itself, is not offensive. On the contrary, education should constructively challenge the developing intellect of students.
The positives of slavery did not go to the slaves, for example, but to the owners and their economic system. A student could and should have been able to see that, at least. Ultimately, the question could have led to the answer, "There were no positives for the victims of this practice".
They should also have learned about the context, that until relatively soon before the war to preserve the Union, slavery was common in the world and almost all cultures. Whites were not evil for having black slaves, just unenlightened.
Nuance seems less and less present in American social debate. Everything has to be 'good' or 'bad', and all according to the current mode and definition.

People who constantly pound on about how bad and evil white folks in America were for keeping slaves generally ignore the fact that slavery's been around throughout mankind in all parts of the world. That's just the way man rolled for centuries; it was a natural part of life and not looked at as morally wrong or anything. Not saying it was right or endorsing it. That's just the way it was and it was handed down through generations across cultures, continents, etc.

Pretty much every other advanced nation had abolished slavery decades before our Civil War.

And they abolished slavery peacefully.

It's a pretty wretched indictment on the South they were one of the few places in the world that would fight to the bloody death one of the worst wars in history to preserve human bondage.

 

[DrLove]

Exactly. Them Negros looked they was havin' a blast.

More fun than humans should be allowed to have actually.

 

[MarcATL]

Revisionist history, from the leading state that engages in this...Tex-ass!

 

[irosie91]

Teacher asks 8th-grade students to list positives of slavery

SAN ANTONIO -- A San Antonio charter school has apologized after a teacher asked students in an eighth grade American history class to list the positive and negative aspects of slavery. The teacher at Great Hearts Monte Vista who distributed a worksheet titled "The Life of Slaves: A Balanced View" has been placed on leave.

Aaron Kindel, the superintendent of Great Hearts Texas, said in a statement the school would audit the textbook associated with the lesson.

"To be clear, there is no debate about slavery. It is immoral and a crime against humanity," Kindel said in a statement posted Thursday on the Great Hearts Facebook page. He said the school's headmaster plans to explain the mistake to the history class.

Scott Overland, a spokesman for Pearson, which published the textbook, said the company didn't create and doesn't endorse the worksheet assigned to the students, CBS affiliate KENS-TV reports.

"We do not support the point of view represented in the worksheet and strongly condemn the implication that there was any positive aspect to slavery," Overland said.

A parent of one of the students in the class posted the worksheet Wednesday on Facebook. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas, drew attention to the issue on Thursday when the Democrat tweeted that the worksheet was "absolutely unacceptable."

Let's see...

1. Free labor.

2. The cotton industry was booming.

3. As the great Cliven Bundy once said, it "gave them something to do".

4. 12 Years A Slave, which was a great movie, never would have been made.

Can you think of any more?

The school is just one more PC Idiocracy. EVERYTHING has a + and a - side to it, even slavery, that is the nature of the universe, otherwise there never would have been slaves! It was a lesson in critical thinking, thinking outside the box, not justification of slavery, but now thanks to fear of PC, these kids will lose a valuable lesson in looking at something very bad and seeing that even such things have their positive aspects. The Chinese call it yin and yang, but in the Dumbed Down States of America, our poor kids are not allowed to think and learn freely, being told by their "school" that you are only allowed to believe that things like slavery, war, old age, illness and even death are all bad with nothing good or positive to ever be gleaned, taken or learned from them.

And asking the question does not mean that the good and negative aspects would balance out, or not be horrifically slanted to the negative.


It sounds like an excellent assignment to really get the kids thinking.

depends on the kids you get into that kind of thing-----not all kids at are 13
are READY

The majority would sit there like lumps, a few would actually do some work and come up with something.

Than you would have a debate, and the lumps would be exposed to some actual thoughts.


Probably a waste, but you never know, and optimism is a form of courage.

all true----but there is a DEFINITE potential for some to come up
with really NASTY out of class response. The teacher has to use
discretion. I was a kid during the civil rights era-----we had very candid
discussions----but (sorry but its true) our classes were DIVIDED-----
LAYERED according to IQ and emotional propensity. (layered like
those "reading groups" in the second grade).