beretta304
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A fairly benign list, not terribly offensive. But that's not the problem.
The problem, from an independent/undecided perspective, is as follows:
Again, I know you don't have a problem with the issues above, but I have little doubt that they throw up some pretty large red flags for independents and undecideds. Maybe not to the point where Romney will lose, but I really don't think the Tea Party is helping him on balance.
- Grover Norquist running around, shoving "pledges" in the faces of all Republican candidates, forcing them to bend over or be subject to hardcore attacks
- People like Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann co-opting the movement in its infancy, taking its reasonable "responsible government" message and adding their harcore religious beliefs to the mix
- The nomination and campaigns of several Tea Party-friendly loons who just made the whole thing look like one big freaking joke
- The absolute legislative paralysis caused by absolutists who did get elected, causing the ship to sink even faster than it has been
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A fairly benign list, not terribly offensive. But that's not the problem.
The problem, from an independent/undecided perspective, is as follows:
Again, I know you don't have a problem with the issues above, but I have little doubt that they throw up some pretty large red flags for independents and undecideds. Maybe not to the point where Romney will lose, but I really don't think the Tea Party is helping him on balance.
- Grover Norquist running around, shoving "pledges" in the faces of all Republican candidates, forcing them to bend over or be subject to hardcore attacks
- People like Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann co-opting the movement in its infancy, taking its reasonable "responsible government" message and adding their harcore religious beliefs to the mix
- The nomination and campaigns of several Tea Party-friendly loons who just made the whole thing look like one big freaking joke
- The absolute legislative paralysis caused by absolutists who did get elected, causing the ship to sink even faster than it has been
.
I'd like to thnk that intelligent Independents can see beyond that and perhaps also see that their platform on it's own merit is something to be seriously considered.
A fairly benign list, not terribly offensive. But that's not the problem.
The problem, from an independent/undecided perspective, is as follows:
Again, I know you don't have a problem with the issues above, but I have little doubt that they throw up some pretty large red flags for independents and undecideds. Maybe not to the point where Romney will lose, but I really don't think the Tea Party is helping him on balance.
- Grover Norquist running around, shoving "pledges" in the faces of all Republican candidates, forcing them to bend over or be subject to hardcore attacks
- People like Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann co-opting the movement in its infancy, taking its reasonable "responsible government" message and adding their harcore religious beliefs to the mix
- The nomination and campaigns of several Tea Party-friendly loons who just made the whole thing look like one big freaking joke
- The absolute legislative paralysis caused by absolutists who did get elected, causing the ship to sink even faster than it has been
.
I'd like to thnk that intelligent Independents can see beyond that and perhaps also see that their platform on it's own merit is something to be seriously considered.
Politics is (unfortunately) about image. My general impression of the Tea Party is that, because it's so new, it allowed its various successes to go to its head and it stopped thinking about how it would be perceived. That's dangerous as hell.
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A fairly benign list, not terribly offensive. But that's not the problem.
The problem, from an independent/undecided perspective, is as follows:
Again, I know you don't have a problem with the issues above, but I have little doubt that they throw up some pretty large red flags for independents and undecideds. Maybe not to the point where Romney will lose, but I really don't think the Tea Party is helping him on balance.
- Grover Norquist running around, shoving "pledges" in the faces of all Republican candidates, forcing them to bend over or be subject to hardcore attacks
- People like Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann co-opting the movement in its infancy, taking its reasonable "responsible government" message and adding their harcore religious beliefs to the mix
- The nomination and campaigns of several Tea Party-friendly loons who just made the whole thing look like one big freaking joke
- The absolute legislative paralysis caused by absolutists who did get elected, causing the ship to sink even faster than it has been
.
I'd like to thnk that intelligent Independents can see beyond that and perhaps also see that their platform on it's own merit is something to be seriously considered.
I'd like to thnk that intelligent Independents can see beyond that and perhaps also see that their platform on it's own merit is something to be seriously considered.
Politics is (unfortunately) about image. My general impression of the Tea Party is that, because it's so new, it allowed its various successes to go to its head and it stopped thinking about how it would be perceived. That's dangerous as hell.
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I don't want to stray off topic but your last comment could also be a description of Obama.
With a few slight modifications:
My general impression of Obama is that, because he was so new, he allowed his limited successes to go to his head and he stopped thinking about how he would be perceived. That's dangerous as hell.
Yeah.. Seems "official".
Too bad there is no such thing as a "tea party", it's the republican party... And all of the nut bags and years of horrible policies that come with it.
Politics is (unfortunately) about image. My general impression of the Tea Party is that, because it's so new, it allowed its various successes to go to its head and it stopped thinking about how it would be perceived. That's dangerous as hell.
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I don't want to stray off topic but your last comment could also be a description of Obama.
With a few slight modifications:
My general impression of Obama is that, because he was so new, he allowed his limited successes to go to his head and he stopped thinking about how he would be perceived. That's dangerous as hell.
Hell, that was the Democrat party from Jan 1 2009 until the 2010 elections. "We won, you lost, tough shit" was the message.
We need some consensus-building leadership right now, and we need it fast. That may be the quality the undecideds are looking for.
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Yeah.. Seems "official".
Too bad there is no such thing as a "tea party", it's the republican party... And all of the nut bags and years of horrible policies that come with it.
Yeah that's why 80 something was elected in the House and has shook up Washington D.C. in both parties.
It scares the hell out of them that people want to have the Government, to be constrained to the constitution.
This is why so many libs in the Dem's party keeps saying you can't work with these people because they keep telling the Libs that their bills are unconstitutional. They have not heard that for a very, very long time.
Remember Pelosi, when she was asked about the Health Care bill on whether or not it was constitutional? She said "are you kidding me"?