Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia

[NYcarbineer]

OMG
We sure don't want to see a bunch of angry, flag waving people.
shit, we had to watch eight years of flag burning, banshee yelling anti-war protesters protesting against a duly elected President, but hey, I suppose that was then and we didn't have a Democrat boy-king sitting as President like today.

President Obama was elected. You lost. quit whining.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Disturbed moneys

Tea Party Plans To Form Armed Militia | News One

Armed? lol, that calls for Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels classic!

Eddie: They're armed.

Soap: What was that? Armed? What do you mean armed? Armed with what?

Eddie: Err, bad breath, colorful language, feather duster... what do you think they're

gonna be armed with? Guns, you tit!

 

[uscitizen]

Thats exactly where my information comes from bootlicker....
your link to factcheck, and not Hannity....

Your head needs to be removed from your very own asshole....learn to read and use what little brains you have instead of relying on what factcheck tells you....
Obama said what he said, plain and easy to understand for even you.

Helps when you actually read the article.......

Q:

Is Obama planning a Gestapo-like "civilian national security force"?
I read a quote from Rep. Paul Broun from Georgia which stated that Obama wants to set up a civilian national security force that was similar to the "Gestapo" or the Nazi Brownshirts.

What is the truth behind Obama's statements that he wants to create a "civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded [as the military]"?
A:

This false claim is a badly distorted version of Obama's call for doubling the Peace Corps, creating volunteer networks and increasing the size of the Foreign Service.
This question stems from an interview that Republican Rep. Broun of Georgia gave to The Associated Press Nov. 10. The story carried a headline, "Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship." It said that Broun "fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship." And it quoted him this way:

Rep. Paul Broun, Nov. 10: It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's [Obama's] the one who proposed this national security force. ... That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did.

Similar claims have been circulating in right-leaning blogs and conservative Web sites ever since July, when Obama made a single reference to a "civilian national security force" in a campaign speech in Colorado. Obama's detractors make much of his expansive (and exaggerated) description of such a force as being "just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the U.S. military. They also ignore the context.

Obama was not talking about a "security force" with guns or police powers. He was talking specifically about expanding AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps and the USA Freedom Corps, which is the volunteer initiative launched by the Bush administration after the attacks of 9/11, and about increasing the number of trained Foreign Service officers who populate U.S. embassies overseas.

Here is the relevant portion of what Obama actually said, with the sentences quoted selectively by Broun and others in bold.

Obama, July 2, Colorado Springs, CO: [As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots [from 75,000] and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.

People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We'll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we're going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set.

We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We need to use technology to connect people to service. We'll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You'll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You'll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up.

Does that sound like a force that could kick down your door in the middle of the night and haul you off to a Gulag or concentration camp? You decide.

-Brooks Jackson

Wrong answer fart sniffer, it's for a Peace Corps.

What's more.........he's right.

Brooks Jackson is an AP Hack.

That same AP that is mentioned in the teabaggers thread about exposing the party crashers?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So you think that Jefferson intended the constitutional government he helped form to be eventually, inevitably overthrown by force of arms? And that he welcomed the prospect of that?

No. I don't think it. I know it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So you think that Jefferson intended the constitutional government he helped form to be eventually, inevitably overthrown by force of arms? And that he welcomed the prospect of that?

No. I don't think it. I know it.

I guess then we're lucky he's dead and that most of us aren't still living in the 19th century.

 

[Zona]

OKLAHOMA CITY – Frustrated by recent political setbacks, tea party leaders and some conservative members of the Oklahoma Legislature say they would like to create a new volunteer militia to help defend against what they believe are improper federal infringements on state sovereignty.

Tea party movement leaders say they've discussed the idea with several supportive lawmakers and hope to get legislation next year to recognize a new volunteer force. They say the unit would not resemble militia groups that have been raided for allegedly plotting attacks on law enforcement officers.

"Is it scary? It sure is," said tea party leader Al Gerhart of Oklahoma City, who heads an umbrella group of tea party factions called the Oklahoma Constitutional Alliance. "But when do the states stop rolling over for the federal government?"

Thus far, the discussions have been exploratory. Even the proponents say they don't know how an armed force would be organized nor how a state-based militia could block federal mandates. Critics also asserted that the force could inflame extremism, and that the National Guard already provides for the state's military needs.

Okla. tea parties and lawmakers envision militia - Yahoo! News

Yep. It's a legit story. Figures that those idiots in OK after getting told no state militia would turn to the tea baggers.

If this happens and goes from exploratory discussion to actual thing, it's gonna be ugly.

IF something does happen, the righty's will say Obama is over stepping his bounds by taking down these real mericans.

I am watching this thing on Waco right now and am looking for to the OK city bombings on tv on monday. Maddow is doing a show on him specifically.

Freaking disturbed freaking black helicoptor looking for nuts/teabaggers.

 

[uscitizen]

Ahh the level of self assurance that some have...

 

[NYcarbineer]

If anyone takes up arms to oppose the government they need to be dealt with

I didn't realize America was the government.

Oh, and President Thomas Jefferson would disagree with you.

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

I guess that makes John Wilkes Booth a true Jeffersonian patriot.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If converted to action from rhetoric, the backlash will just how few loons will be standing there holding weapons in opposition to the armed forces of the state and the national governmnt. Hint:no minutemen will be coming avenge your dead bodies.

 

[Zona]

Armed militia LOL

Are there unarmed militias?

Dems fled the Union rather than give up their slaves, remember?

Yes, Frank, and we all know that the mostly southern-based Democratic party of the mid 1800's is EXACTLY the same as the progressive Democrats of 2010.

Right?

I love when they play that crap. Its like they expect no retaliation to it or something. Do they actually believe the dem party today is anything like it was then?

Crusader Frank is a hack.

 

[Zona]

Man, is there anything that Tea Party isn't doing.

Everybody better run and HIDE they're now forming , militias.

Like there hasn't been militias around BEFORE.

A few toothless mountainmen or a bunch of redneck yahoos riding around in pickups doesn't count.

YOu mean like waco?

 

[uscitizen]

I can visualize a teabagger militia now.

Elderly overweight men in camos riding their 4 wheelers with guns strapped on it and a cooler of beer on the back.

Give em a few weeks and they would accidently kill off most of each other anyway.
The rest would need to go get more BP medicine or run out of beer and miss the widescreen and go home.

 

[momonkey]

Ever see the movie "Southland Tales"?

If states have militias, that movie could be a reality.

If anyone takes up arms to oppose the government they need to be dealt with, I said before and I'll say it again, these compost Tea Bags are extremists, they are not oppressed people seeking equality or liberation thus no justification exists for them to take up weapons "to defend their rights," they're just trying to intimidate and their actions are just like the secessionists prior to the Civil War who wanted to "defend" the southern way of life.

For one thing, to take up arms against the United States Government is treason, pursuant to Article III of the Constitution. It's intriguing, however, that so many of these TP members use the Constitution as a crutch to justify their activities.

Have you never read the Constitution?

Do you have a single clue as to why the Constitution supports state millitias, a navy and continual funding for that navy but stipulates a standing army, once created, must not be funded for more than two years?



To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress

Article I | LII / Legal Information Institute


School me brainiac.

 

[uscitizen]

State militias are the State based National guard units.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The unorganized militia have not legally existed for more than 100 years.

If the fools try to form one then act, they will be rightfully taken down as traitors, with the great, great majority of America yelling "Yay".

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Ever see the movie "Southland Tales"?

If states have militias, that movie could be a reality.

Legally States are allowed by the 2nd Amendment to have militias and No I do not mean the National Guard. Each State is authorized to have its own Militia with only a portion of it available to be called on by the federal Government. The National Guard is PART of the Army so would fill the part called on for National Services. Leaving every State the RIGHT to form a separate force for IN State use only.

You people really need to learn what is and is not legal.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Man, is there anything that Tea Party isn't doing.

Everybody better run and HIDE they're now forming , militias.

Like there hasn't been militias around BEFORE.

it's an attempt to paint them like the nutjobs the FEDS cracked down upon a couple weeks ago.

It's nothing new. It's just more foaming at the mouth ignorance from the usual suspects.

Thats how they painted themselves, who stated they wanted to organize themselves into militias?

EVERY State is authorized to HAVE Militias you RETARD.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The unorganized militia have not legally existed for more than 100 years.

If the fools try to form one then act, they will be rightfully taken down as traitors, with the great, great majority of America yelling "Yay".

Wrong EVERY State has a legal RIGHT to form Militias. By the way some States already have them. Here in NC we have one. They still use the unit titles from the Civil War units by the way. And it is State Funded.

You retards really need to learn what is and is not legal. Just because the States stopped having Militias when the National Guard was formed does not mean they can not reform non Federal Militia forces for in State use. The 2nd Amendment protects this action by States. As does the Constitution.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

State militias are the State based National guard units.

WRONG, National Guard units are the FEDERALIZED Portion of State Militias. States can have non Federal Militia as well.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The only restriction on Militias is as follows...

section 10 Article I

No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.

and the Second Amendment

[quote}

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

[/quote]

U.S. Constitution | LII / Legal Information Institute

Each INDIVIDUAL STATE is authorized a Militia with a portion to be reserved for the Federal Government to call up ( the National Guard)

section 2 Article II

The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States