Tea party in shambles?

[Intense]

The Tea Party, right-wing media, and the dog that didn't bark | Philly | 09/27/2011

It wasn't in South Carolina, where a "smaller than expected" crowd came to see Michele Bachmann for a Tax Day Rally back in April (just as Sarah Palin and Donald Trump also drew small crowds on the same day), or at the "small" crowd of only 200 activists who showed up in March for a D.C. rally in favor of shutting down the government, or the less than 100 people who were rousted this summer to rally for the Tea Party's stance on the debt ceiling (pictured at top), even with supposed movement's superstars Sens. Rand Paul and Jim DeMint at the podium.

Where's the Tea Party? It's not in Las Vegas, where the swanky Venetian Hotel has been suing the Tes Party Nation for more than $600,000, for canceling a planned convention last fall when it couldn't deliver nearly enough people for the more than 1,800 hotel rooms it had once reserved. (By the way, Tea Party nation's founder just endorsed Newt Gingrich for president...you think that's a game changer?) You could also fairly ask what happened to the nearly 100,000 people who showed up at the National Mall just 13 months ago for a rally organized by and starring the then-king of all right-wing media, Glenn Beck, but a better question would be simply -- what happened to Glenn Beck? Little more than a year removed from the cover of Time and the New York Times Magazine, Beck has lost his main platform on the Fox News Channel, been booting from the airwaves in Philadelphia and New York, and taken his shtick to the narrowcasting world of Internet TV.

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHDAHAH

Tea party people rock, Truthmatters.

But it's so good to see you in a good mood for a change.

Fortunately, Solyndra, a scandal that is Watergate to the tenth power is getting no media attention whatever, so since the media is not an equal opportunity magnifying glass any more, the American voters will be.

We know right from wrong, and Obama giving away half a billion American dollars to a company that was mismanaging money when he rammed it through to the Treasurer's payout office in record time, a lot of Americans are wondering how he can look us straight in the eye any more. As a matter of fact, I've seen him looking down at the floor, not answering any questions that don't come from the DNC playbook, and in general, still blaming everybody else except himself and his close cronies for bad decisions that will take America out if we don't hand him a pink slip in November 2012.

Keep on smiling while Washington plays a dicey little shell game of "The Money, the Money, Solyndra, the Money; Lawyer Up then Take the Money and run with the bailout."

So you are telling me..Fox...the highest ratings getter out there...is not reporting on something bigger than watergate?

I am being serious here. Fox is not reporting on something so huge? How is this possible?

Silly Me, I thought this was bigger than Watergate.

At its peak, ACORN had over 400,000 members and 1,200 chapters in more 100 cities. Linked to serious scandals involving misuse of taxpayer funds, embezzlement, intimidation tactics, employee abuse, questionable hiring tactics, and fraudulent voter registrations, ACORN's corrupt activities finally caught the attention of the American public and members of Congress, the final blow coming after explosive journalist videos were released showing ACORN employees advising undercover reporters on how to evade immigration, housing, and child prostitution laws, as well as taxes.

After the videos "went viral," in October 2009, Congress passed and President Obama signed into law the Defund ACORN Act which effectively prohibited the federal government from funding "ACORN and any ACORN-related affiliate." ACORN subsequently filed for bankruptcy on November 2, 2010. However, long before its bankruptcy filing, ACORN's leadership implemented a plan to ensure the survival of ACORN as independent state corporations and affiliated organizations. The Judicial Watch report provides details on the individual organizations and their officers.

"As this report clearly shows, rumors of ACORN's demise are vastly overstated. ACORN and its partner in crime Project Vote are both alive and well and operating across the country," said Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton. "Given the corrupt activities of these organizations, there is no question they pose a threat to clean and fair elections in 2012. And the fact that the Obama Justice Department will take no action to address the corrupt activities of ACORN and its thinly disguised spinoffs is a scandal in and of itself."

Judicial Watch Releases Special Report: "The Rebranding of ACORN" - MarketWatch

Are you covering this Zona???

 

[freedombecki]

Guy's, it's still early. We are in it for the long haul, not the moment. Any of these Candidates can end up in a VP or Cabinet Position. We do not need Character Assassination. Beware the Left trying to steer the cart again. Even here. Who's starting and steering the Threads? There are those here to obstruct and derail, as much as those here to steer true. Don't burn out before the real battles even start.

Well, when we start a thread on say, Solyndra, which I did and is the oldest Solyndra thread since I caught the story in a matter of minutes, I realized it was something that the public should know about, since it encompassed half a billion dollars in taxpayer money going down the tubes ($535 million) in one fell swoop after only a couple of years. It was given to a company that was already having trouble managing money, and all we get from the media is agreement with the Obama administration that it's okay, because they meant well, but as loansharks send out strongmen to collect their debts, the FBI was sent out to investigate the 1100 people who lost their jobs overnight on account of misspent money by people who were already misspending money.

Everybody here is too busy to realize what happened, the media is an amalgam of seriously uncaring people who look at half a billion bucks, and it doesn't even register that that amount of money, invested wisely, could have paid off the national debt over a 20-year period. Now, the taxpayers have to scrape around trying to pay for this when one out of ten people does not have a job to even pay a tax, and are also receiving unemployment checks for not having jobs. In the specious blather of Washington, the obfuscation game is that for every million dollars that gets wasted, it costs another million dollars to get to the bottom of who wasted it and why.

That doesn't even scratch the surface on the amount of money it takes to pay interest instead of collecting some on the half a billion dollar loss.

It's time to send Obama and his bawdies a pink slip, but that's not going to happen if people do not support the threads we start that are going to hurt us severely in the long run. Half a billion dollars placed in the right hands could do good. In the wrong hands, it's spent in 2 years. I never heard of demanding the American people pay that much for the pleasure of a teflon President's dalliances to his Kaiser campaign contributions for footing some of the bill for his bankrupt crowd who must have had a ball going through all that money in 2 years before they were raided by the FBI on suspicion of fraud.

The lefties here didn't like Obama the Loanshark being called a loanshark, so only the pants-dropper showed up with his bare butt insult smiley logo. Half a billion dollars doesn't mean anything when we say so, but Watergate was supersized into a hurricane 5.0 in strength, because a Republican did once what Hillary Clinton did 900 times with FBI files just like the files in the Psychiatrist's office. She got off the hook with "I forget" in front of a Grand Jury and a future shot at Secretary of State appointment. Nixon resigned to avoid taking America down the impeachment road. Clinton, with the support of the Press, got a get out of jail free card, a celebration in the Rose Garden when less than 67% of the senators voted to impeach him for his heinous crimes of obstruction and perjury. He got off with a little wrist slap of disbarment which got a categorical press blackout since most people still treat him like he's some kind of damn god.

 

[Missourian]

Guy's, it's still early. We are in it for the long haul, not the moment. Any of these Candidates can end up in a VP or Cabinet Position. We do not need Character Assassination. Beware the Left trying to steer the cart again. Even here. Who's starting and steering the Threads? There are those here to obstruct and derail, as much as those here to steer true. Don't burn out before the real battles even start.

do we want a rino to run for president? A rino would be just as bad as what we already have if not worse. With obama we saw it coming but with a rino they are sneeky.

No We don't. Still, we can make it through this Process without so much division, by playing nice. The opposition want's to wedge and divide us. Being Civil, at this point will strengthen the Base.

Excellent point...good topic for a thread as well.

What is acceptable and what isn't?

 

[Zona]

Tea party people rock, Truthmatters.

But it's so good to see you in a good mood for a change.

Fortunately, Solyndra, a scandal that is Watergate to the tenth power is getting no media attention whatever, so since the media is not an equal opportunity magnifying glass any more, the American voters will be.

We know right from wrong, and Obama giving away half a billion American dollars to a company that was mismanaging money when he rammed it through to the Treasurer's payout office in record time, a lot of Americans are wondering how he can look us straight in the eye any more. As a matter of fact, I've seen him looking down at the floor, not answering any questions that don't come from the DNC playbook, and in general, still blaming everybody else except himself and his close cronies for bad decisions that will take America out if we don't hand him a pink slip in November 2012.

Keep on smiling while Washington plays a dicey little shell game of "The Money, the Money, Solyndra, the Money; Lawyer Up then Take the Money and run with the bailout."

So you are telling me..Fox...the highest ratings getter out there...is not reporting on something bigger than watergate?

I am being serious here. Fox is not reporting on something so huge? How is this possible?

Silly Me, I thought this was bigger than Watergate.

At its peak, ACORN had over 400,000 members and 1,200 chapters in more 100 cities. Linked to serious scandals involving misuse of taxpayer funds, embezzlement, intimidation tactics, employee abuse, questionable hiring tactics, and fraudulent voter registrations, ACORN's corrupt activities finally caught the attention of the American public and members of Congress, the final blow coming after explosive journalist videos were released showing ACORN employees advising undercover reporters on how to evade immigration, housing, and child prostitution laws, as well as taxes.

After the videos "went viral," in October 2009, Congress passed and President Obama signed into law the Defund ACORN Act which effectively prohibited the federal government from funding "ACORN and any ACORN-related affiliate." ACORN subsequently filed for bankruptcy on November 2, 2010. However, long before its bankruptcy filing, ACORN's leadership implemented a plan to ensure the survival of ACORN as independent state corporations and affiliated organizations. The Judicial Watch report provides details on the individual organizations and their officers.

"As this report clearly shows, rumors of ACORN's demise are vastly overstated. ACORN and its partner in crime Project Vote are both alive and well and operating across the country," said Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton. "Given the corrupt activities of these organizations, there is no question they pose a threat to clean and fair elections in 2012. And the fact that the Obama Justice Department will take no action to address the corrupt activities of ACORN and its thinly disguised spinoffs is a scandal in and of itself."

Judicial Watch Releases Special Report: "The Rebranding of ACORN" - MarketWatch

Are you covering this Zona???

and it turned out Acorn did nothing wrong...By the way, what does this have to do with a story that is "bigger than watergate" not being covered, minute by minute by fox?

Why the divert attempt?

Congressional report clears ACORN of wrongdoing — after group forced to disband | The Raw Story

 

[Disenchanted61]

The Tea Party, right-wing media, and the dog that didn't bark | Philly | 09/27/2011


It wasn't in South Carolina, where a "smaller than expected" crowd came to see Michele Bachmann for a Tax Day Rally back in April (just as Sarah Palin and Donald Trump also drew small crowds on the same day), or at the "small" crowd of only 200 activists who showed up in March for a D.C. rally in favor of shutting down the government, or the less than 100 people who were rousted this summer to rally for the Tea Party's stance on the debt ceiling (pictured at top), even with supposed movement's superstars Sens. Rand Paul and Jim DeMint at the podium.

Where's the Tea Party? It's not in Las Vegas, where the swanky Venetian Hotel has been suing the Tes Party Nation for more than $600,000, for canceling a planned convention last fall when it couldn't deliver nearly enough people for the more than 1,800 hotel rooms it had once reserved. (By the way, Tea Party nation's founder just endorsed Newt Gingrich for president...you think that's a game changer?) You could also fairly ask what happened to the nearly 100,000 people who showed up at the National Mall just 13 months ago for a rally organized by and starring the then-king of all right-wing media, Glenn Beck, but a better question would be simply -- what happened to Glenn Beck? Little more than a year removed from the cover of Time and the New York Times Magazine, Beck has lost his main platform on the Fox News Channel, been booting from the airwaves in Philadelphia and New York, and taken his shtick to the narrowcasting world of Internet TV.




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Glenn Beck is a perfect example of what happens when one chooses insanity as a public persona. As for the right............Both party's are
vying for the spot light to suit their own individual desires period.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The democrats appear to be in Shambles because the deamocrats would not support voters suppression in 2012 if they weren't.

 

[Intense]

So you are telling me..Fox...the highest ratings getter out there...is not reporting on something bigger than watergate?

I am being serious here. Fox is not reporting on something so huge? How is this possible?

Silly Me, I thought this was bigger than Watergate.

At its peak, ACORN had over 400,000 members and 1,200 chapters in more 100 cities. Linked to serious scandals involving misuse of taxpayer funds, embezzlement, intimidation tactics, employee abuse, questionable hiring tactics, and fraudulent voter registrations, ACORN's corrupt activities finally caught the attention of the American public and members of Congress, the final blow coming after explosive journalist videos were released showing ACORN employees advising undercover reporters on how to evade immigration, housing, and child prostitution laws, as well as taxes.

After the videos "went viral," in October 2009, Congress passed and President Obama signed into law the Defund ACORN Act which effectively prohibited the federal government from funding "ACORN and any ACORN-related affiliate." ACORN subsequently filed for bankruptcy on November 2, 2010. However, long before its bankruptcy filing, ACORN's leadership implemented a plan to ensure the survival of ACORN as independent state corporations and affiliated organizations. The Judicial Watch report provides details on the individual organizations and their officers.

"As this report clearly shows, rumors of ACORN's demise are vastly overstated. ACORN and its partner in crime Project Vote are both alive and well and operating across the country," said Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton. "Given the corrupt activities of these organizations, there is no question they pose a threat to clean and fair elections in 2012. And the fact that the Obama Justice Department will take no action to address the corrupt activities of ACORN and its thinly disguised spinoffs is a scandal in and of itself."

Judicial Watch Releases Special Report: "The Rebranding of ACORN" - MarketWatch

Are you covering this Zona???

and it turned out Acorn did nothing wrong...By the way, what does this have to do with a story that is "bigger than watergate" not being covered, minute by minute by fox?

Why the divert attempt?

Congressional report clears ACORN of wrongdoing — after group forced to disband | The Raw Story

Keystone Cops clear ACORN. Take Home Large Christmas Bonuses. Good one!

Not diverting. Just Adding Flavor. Here, try this flavor........

As over-leveraged investment houses began to fail in September 2008, the leaders of the Republican and Democratic parties, of major corporations, and opinion leaders stretching from the National Review magazine (and the Wall Street Journal) on the right to the Nation magazine on the left, agreed that spending some $700 billion to buy the investors' "toxic assets" was the only alternative to the U.S. economy's "systemic collapse." In this, President George W. Bush and his would-be Republican successor John McCain agreed with the Democratic candidate, Barack Obama. Many, if not most, people around them also agreed upon the eventual commitment of some 10 trillion nonexistent dollars in ways unprecedented in America. They explained neither the difference between the assets' nominal and real values, nor precisely why letting the market find the latter would collapse America. The public objected immediately, by margins of three or four to one.

When this majority discovered that virtually no one in a position of power in either party or with a national voice would take their objections seriously, that decisions about their money were being made in bipartisan backroom deals with interested parties, and that the laws on these matters were being voted by people who had not read them, the term "political class" came into use. Then, after those in power changed their plans from buying toxic assets to buying up equity in banks and major industries but refused to explain why, when they reasserted their right to decide ad hoc on these and so many other matters, supposing them to be beyond the general public's understanding, the American people started referring to those in and around government as the "ruling class." And in fact Republican and Democratic office holders and their retinues show a similar presumption to dominate and fewer differences in tastes, habits, opinions, and sources of income among one another than between both and the rest of the country. They think, look, and act as a class.

Although after the election of 2008 most Republican office holders argued against the Troubled Asset Relief Program, against the subsequent bailouts of the auto industry, against the several "stimulus" bills and further summary expansions of government power to benefit clients of government at the expense of ordinary citizens, the American people had every reason to believe that many Republican politicians were doing so simply by the logic of partisan opposition. After all, Republicans had been happy enough to approve of similar things under Republican administrations. Differences between Bushes, Clintons, and Obamas are of degree, not kind. Moreover, 2009-10 establishment Republicans sought only to modify the government's agenda while showing eagerness to join the Democrats in new grand schemes, if only they were allowed to. Sen. Orrin Hatch continued dreaming of being Ted Kennedy, while Lindsey Graham set aside what is true or false about "global warming" for the sake of getting on the right side of history. No prominent Republican challenged the ruling class's continued claim of superior insight, nor its denigration of the American people as irritable children who must learn their place. The Republican Party did not disparage the ruling class, because most of its officials are or would like to be part of it.

Never has there been so little diversity within America's upper crust. Always, in America as elsewhere, some people have been wealthier and more powerful than others. But until our own time America's upper crust was a mixture of people who had gained prominence in a variety of ways, who drew their money and status from different sources and were not predictably of one mind on any given matter. The Boston Brahmins, the New York financiers, the land barons of California, Texas, and Florida, the industrialists of Pittsburgh, the Southern aristocracy, and the hardscrabble politicians who made it big in Chicago or Memphis had little contact with one another. Few had much contact with government, and "bureaucrat" was a dirty word for all. So was "social engineering." Nor had the schools and universities that formed yesterday's upper crust imposed a single orthodoxy about the origins of man, about American history, and about how America should be governed. All that has changed.

Today's ruling class, from Boston to San Diego, was formed by an educational system that exposed them to the same ideas and gave them remarkably uniform guidance, as well as tastes and habits. These amount to a social canon of judgments about good and evil, complete with secular sacred history, sins (against minorities and the environment), and saints. Using the right words and avoiding the wrong ones when referring to such matters -- speaking the "in" language -- serves as a badge of identity. Regardless of what business or profession they are in, their road up included government channels and government money because, as government has grown, its boundary with the rest of American life has become indistinct. Many began their careers in government and leveraged their way into the private sector. Some, e.g., Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner, never held a non-government job. Hence whether formally in government, out of it, or halfway, America's ruling class speaks the language and has the tastes, habits, and tools of bureaucrats. It rules uneasily over the majority of Americans not oriented to government.

The two classes have less in common culturally, dislike each other more, and embody ways of life more different from one another than did the 19th century's Northerners and Southerners -- nearly all of whom, as Lincoln reminded them, "prayed to the same God." By contrast, while most Americans pray to the God "who created and doth sustain us," our ruling class prays to itself as "saviors of the planet" and improvers of humanity. Our classes' clash is over "whose country" America is, over what way of life will prevail, over who is to defer to whom about what. The gravity of such divisions points us, as it did Lincoln, to Mark's Gospel: "if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand."

The American Spectator : America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution

 

[zonly1]

Beck is leach.

i dont listen to bat shit crazy any more than Christie does.

It bothers you b/c you keep bringing it up, like some bad nightmare.

robin williams: reality what a concept

 

[The T]

The democrats appear to be in Shambles because the deamocrats would not support voters suppression in 2012 if they weren't.

They have painted themselves into a corner. The actions we witness are of desparation.

 

[percysunshine]

Tea party in shambles?

Define 'shamble'.

 

[Firehorse]

I have no doubt that other parties will downplay us up until text november. We don't have a party head (I don't think I would vote for Palin) to get up in front of the cameras and make speaches 2-3 times a week.

In many ways we are like workmen. When it's time to work, we are there on time and make our voices heard, when the whistle sounds it's back to our daily lives until the next election.

Those that we have elected are the same way. No press conferences, no speaches, just walk into the chamber, see if the bill has the cuts you want, vote on it and call it a day. On the way home listen on the blowhards talk about how we don't care about disaster releif.

They can keep playing their games, we will keep voting, in the end, their speaches will fall on deaf ears and we will have the votes to do what needs to be done