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Like I said, the Tea Baggers are America's best hope for returning to the 19th century.
Excuse me. Can I just point out that - absolutely nowhere in that quote from the TP Nation does it say anything about not letting renters vote. Not one. At least, not in the quote provided.
Heres a new Tea Party plank: Dont let renters vote.
The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasnt you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if youre a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If youre not a property owner, you know, Im sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community than non-property owners.
Where in that quote does he say we should not allow renters to vote? Nowhere.
Excuse me. Can I just point out that - absolutely nowhere in that quote from the TP Nation does it say anything about not letting renters vote. Not one. At least, not in the quote provided.
Heres a new Tea Party plank: Dont let renters vote.
The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasnt you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if youre a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If youre not a property owner, you know, Im sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community than non-property owners.
Where in that quote does he say we should not allow renters to vote? Nowhere.
The whole quote says it.
Excuse me. Can I just point out that - absolutely nowhere in that quote from the TP Nation does it say anything about not letting renters vote. Not one. At least, not in the quote provided.
Heres a new Tea Party plank: Dont let renters vote.
The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasnt you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if youre a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If youre not a property owner, you know, Im sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community than non-property owners.
Where in that quote does he say we should not allow renters to vote? Nowhere.
The whole quote says it.
No it does not. Particularly since he clarified it with 'obviously would not think about that today. Furthermore, we have no context for the quote, ie was it in response to a specific question about that particular subject, etc. Without context, one cannot justifiably state that this is a valid point or not. I am, however, unsurprised that the unthinking will take it as something it is not.
The whole quote says it.
No it does not. Particularly since he clarified it with 'obviously would not think about that today. Furthermore, we have no context for the quote, ie was it in response to a specific question about that particular subject, etc. Without context, one cannot justifiably state that this is a valid point or not. I am, however, unsurprised that the unthinking will take it as something it is not.
Sure it does.
And why bring it up?
The founders didn't let any non-white male property owners..vote.
Do these people want to go back to that?
No it does not. Particularly since he clarified it with 'obviously would not think about that today. Furthermore, we have no context for the quote, ie was it in response to a specific question about that particular subject, etc. Without context, one cannot justifiably state that this is a valid point or not. I am, however, unsurprised that the unthinking will take it as something it is not.
Sure it does.
And why bring it up?
The founders didn't let any non-white male property owners..vote.
Do these people want to go back to that?
That's actually my point. Why was it brought up? We have no context as to how the comment was made, so we cannot judge it as one thing or another. What we can say, without doubt, is that he very clearly stated that it would not be something acceptable today. You can ignore those words if you want, but I choose honesty over spin.
Renters don't have a vested interest in their community?
What next, the teapartiers wanting to take the vote away from women and blacks?
Sure it does.
And why bring it up?
The founders didn't let any non-white male property owners..vote.
Do these people want to go back to that?
That's actually my point. Why was it brought up? We have no context as to how the comment was made, so we cannot judge it as one thing or another. What we can say, without doubt, is that he very clearly stated that it would not be something acceptable today. You can ignore those words if you want, but I choose honesty over spin.
The "context" is it seems to be a thing among Conservatives to limit the right to vote. Heck..they don't even consider it a "right". And this is a well worn "issue" that shouldn't even be an issue. It is the responsibility of every American Citizen to participate in the Government..and I don't care what your political affliation happens to be.
It should be a law that everyone votes..like Jury Duty.
This thread is a great example of how a lack of 'critical thinking' affects a person's view of what they read.
This thread is a great example of how a lack of 'critical thinking' affects a person's view of what they read.
I can't figure out what some of these people think they are reading......
They are already laying the groundwork of blame for what ails this great country on the women's vote!!!Renters don't have a vested interest in their community?
What next, the teapartiers wanting to take the vote away from women and blacks?
They are already laying the groundwork of blame for what ails this great country on the women's vote!!!Renters don't have a vested interest in their community?
What next, the teapartiers wanting to take the vote away from women and blacks?
August 8, 2008
RUSH: Now we're told the night Hillary speaks is the anniversary of women getting the vote, which is what started the welfare state that now strangles us, by the way. If women had never gotten the vote we wouldn't have a budget deficit, but that's another story.
You're too fucking funny, ed. You claim the status of 'cynic' and show absolutely no cynicism towards the left.... only the right. Some fucking 'cynic'.
Show me where the Left blames America's problems on a woman's right to vote and I'll gladly bash them for their woman-hating also.They are already laying the groundwork of blame for what ails this great country on the women's vote!!!Renters don't have a vested interest in their community?
What next, the teapartiers wanting to take the vote away from women and blacks?
August 8, 2008
RUSH: Now we're told the night Hillary speaks is the anniversary of women getting the vote, which is what started the welfare state that now strangles us, by the way. If women had never gotten the vote we wouldn't have a budget deficit, but that's another story.
Classic lefty spin!
Show me where the Left blames America's problems on a woman's right to vote and I'll gladly bash them for their woman-hating also.They are already laying the groundwork of blame for what ails this great country on the women's vote!!!
August 8, 2008
RUSH: Now we're told the night Hillary speaks is the anniversary of women getting the vote, which is what started the welfare state that now strangles us, by the way. If women had never gotten the vote we wouldn't have a budget deficit, but that's another story.
Classic lefty spin!
August 29, 2008
PALIN: To serve as vice president beside such a man would be the privilege of a lifetime, and it's fitting that this trust has been given to me 88 years -- almost to the day -- after the women of America first gained the right to vote. (cheers and applause)
RUSH: Right on, right on, right on. They also gave us the welfare state, but that's (grumbles).
Tea Party: Dont Let Renters Vote - CBS MoneyWatch.com
Yeah, that will take those low life, low income Democrats out of the equasion!
