Tea Party Conservatives, Taxes & Delusion: Red State Rip Off

[Truthmatters]

Top US Marginal Income Tax Rates, 1913--2003 (TruthAndPolitics.org)

 

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Actually most of today's middle class were yesterday's poor. And almost all of today's rich were yesterday's middle class and poor.
Sorry to disturb your class envy fantasies. I live in America, land of opportunity, where millions of dirt poor immigrants still are literally dying to get here to get a chance at a much better life.
Maybe you should try North Korea sometime. No corporations there.

really? how far back did you have to go to pull this out of your ass?

Ronald Reagan and his acolytes have left the middle class behind.

 

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What poor people pay income taxes?

don't bore me. they pay income taxes and instead of a getting a tax break, they get a refund. there are wealthy individuals and corporations who pay little to no tax you would assume they pay from looking at a tax chart.


wake the fuck up. Unless you are a very wealthy individual or a corporation, a progressive tax and not a regressive tax is the best way to go.

do you deny the sales tax idea is regressive?

what is your point?

My point is that poor people do not pay federal income taxes to begin with, so your rant is moot.

Depends on your definition of poor.

All working class stiffs pay income taxes. The fact that they get refunds the size they do is s reflection of the bankrupt growth the US has experienced over the last 30-40 years.


Factual representations that upset you are qualified as rants? Why the fuck are you even on a public message board?

 

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Top US Marginal Income Tax Rates, 1913--2003 (TruthAndPolitics.org)

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The Undeclared War on America's Middle Class
Under the guise of free market capitalism, conservative policies have made 80-hour work weeks the norm. Working harder for less money means middle class families are getting screwed. -The Undeclared War on America's Middle Class

 

[Gunny]

We hear so much from the red states and the Tea Party about taxes.


There is this to consider when listening to the Tea Party Leaders and Dolts from Red States and their Right Wing Rhetoric vs Reality:

The red state ripoff

and this: http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/113634-taxes-at-lowest-levels-in-60-years.html

You mispelled "illusion" cuz that's all YOU'RE trying to sell.

 

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We hear so much from the red states and the Tea Party about taxes.


There is this to consider when listening to the Tea Party Leaders and Dolts from Red States and their Right Wing Rhetoric vs Reality:

The red state ripoff

and this: http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/113634-taxes-at-lowest-levels-in-60-years.html

You mispelled "illusion" cuz that's all YOU'RE trying to sell.

naw, delusion not illusion.

 

[Care4all]

The taxes are the lowest they've been in a LONG time...including the fact that 47% of individuals aren't even required to PAY taxes.

Conservatives don't mind helping businesses with corporate welfare...or farmers with farm subsidies...yet they fear the urban minority welfare cheat

Most conservatives who say they hate taxes probably couldnt muster a valid argument as to how the tax code should be reformed if you asked them...

but somehow they're still all up in arms...

I will be even-handed and say this: if we are forced to pay a VAT AND an income tax...I'll be pissed and revolt. Abolish the federal income tax and replace it with a national sales tax (that's the fair tax plan)!

a sales tax is a scheme for the wealthy to pay less. poor people and middle income people pay all their money on things they need. the percentage of their income going to taxes will be higher than it will be for wealthier people.


sales taxes are regressive whereas income taxes can be progressive. are you wealthy? If not, a sales tax is NOT in your self interest

What poor people pay income taxes?

the ones who pay SS, their surplus SS taxes have BEEN USED by the treasury to PAY for what income taxes should have been paying....so THEY ARE helping to pay the bill...if we are honest about it.

income taxes on us would be MUCH HIGHER if it were not for the SS surplus being used.

 

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a sales tax is a scheme for the wealthy to pay less. poor people and middle income people pay all their money on things they need. the percentage of their income going to taxes will be higher than it will be for wealthier people.


sales taxes are regressive whereas income taxes can be progressive. are you wealthy? If not, a sales tax is NOT in your self interest

What poor people pay income taxes?

the ones who pay SS, their surplus SS taxes have BEEN USED by the treasury to PAY for what income taxes should have been paying....so THEY ARE helping to pay the bill...if we are honest about it.

income taxes on us would be MUCH HIGHER if it were not for the SS surplus being used.

 

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a sales tax is a scheme for the wealthy to pay less. poor people and middle income people pay all their money on things they need. the percentage of their income going to taxes will be higher than it will be for wealthier people.


sales taxes are regressive whereas income taxes can be progressive. are you wealthy? If not, a sales tax is NOT in your self interest

What poor people pay income taxes?

the ones who pay SS, their surplus SS taxes have BEEN USED by the treasury to PAY for what income taxes should have been paying....so THEY ARE helping to pay the bill...if we are honest about it.

income taxes on us would be MUCH HIGHER if it were not for the SS surplus being used.

There's no more SS surplus, it's gone. And those paying into it SHOULD get it back out at some time, it's not the same thing as federal income tax. But, that's all going to come to a boiling point here in the near future, probably just about when we would have started collecting. It should get very interesting. Hopefully people our age are not depending on SS to be there for them.

 

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What poor people pay income taxes?

the ones who pay SS, their surplus SS taxes have BEEN USED by the treasury to PAY for what income taxes should have been paying....so THEY ARE helping to pay the bill...if we are honest about it.

income taxes on us would be MUCH HIGHER if it were not for the SS surplus being used.

There's no more SS surplus, it's gone. And those paying into it SHOULD get it back out at some time, it's not the same thing as federal income tax. But, that's all going to come to a boiling point here in the near future, probably just about when we would have started collecting. It should get very interesting. Hopefully people our age are not depending on SS to be there for them.

don't worry sweetie, the adults will fix it before that times comes. they always do.


now go back to playing with yourself.

 

[Newby]

the ones who pay SS, their surplus SS taxes have BEEN USED by the treasury to PAY for what income taxes should have been paying....so THEY ARE helping to pay the bill...if we are honest about it.

income taxes on us would be MUCH HIGHER if it were not for the SS surplus being used.

There's no more SS surplus, it's gone. And those paying into it SHOULD get it back out at some time, it's not the same thing as federal income tax. But, that's all going to come to a boiling point here in the near future, probably just about when we would have started collecting. It should get very interesting. Hopefully people our age are not depending on SS to be there for them.

don't worry sweetie, the adults will fix it before that times comes. they always do.


now go back to playing with yourself.

What a mature response, but not unexpected from the likes of you. The adults are the ones that will bail your asses out when everything you're doing comes crashing down around you.

 

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There's no more SS surplus, it's gone. And those paying into it SHOULD get it back out at some time, it's not the same thing as federal income tax. But, that's all going to come to a boiling point here in the near future, probably just about when we would have started collecting. It should get very interesting. Hopefully people our age are not depending on SS to be there for them.

don't worry sweetie, the adults will fix it before that times comes. they always do.


now go back to playing with yourself.

What a mature response, but not unexpected from the likes of you. The adults are the ones that will bail your asses out when everything you're doing comes crashing down around you.

mature response? you are looking for mature responses here?

Hey pal, this place is full of pedantic buffoons, hyperactive trolls, pseudo-intellectuals and other assorted misanthropes. get a fucking clue.

Having a Jerry Springer moment counts for more around here than some bullshit point you are struggling to make.


nuf said