Tea Partiers want to repeal the 17th amendment

[Queen]

Sorry, but the Tea Partiers really are crazy. They want to take away our right to vote for our Senators!

Why Repeal 17th Amendment?

They want our Senators to be appointed. Back room deals. Corruption. Great idea.

So several Republican candidates who are trying to get the Tea Party vote had had to walk back from supporting this stupid idea.

Tea Party-Backed Repeal Of The 17th Amendment Gets Republicans Into Trouble | TPMDC

Here's a little history about how the 17th amendment came about.

The amendment says voters get to decide who represents them in the Senate. Before its ratification in 1913, legislatures elected senators.

As you can imagine, the old system reeked of dealmaking, bribery and corruption.

The poster boy for reform was Montana’s William Clark, a copper-mining magnate who bought a Senate seat in 1899 by paying $2,500 to each legislator to vote for him. So egregious was the scheme that the Senate refused to seat him.

Here’s what Mark Twain had to say about Clark:

“He is as rotten a human being as can be found anywhere under the flag; he is a shame to the American nation, and no one has helped to send him to the Senate who did not know that his proper place was the penitentiary, with a ball and chain on his legs.”

http://www.magicvalley.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_8910467b-72b6-5eb0-9df4-143af29432fe.html

And Mark Twain's words pertain to the Tea Party Republican candidates of today, in my opinion.

 

[jillian]

They really are a bunch of nutters.

 

[2Parties]

lol, like it's not like that now...

 

[jillian]

lol, like it's not like that now...

i love the little scoff.... typical.

hint: if it were what the tea nutters want, neither paul nor sestak would have the slightest chance at a senate seat.

you do understand that, right?

 

[Avatar4321]

Yeah. What sane person, who understands checks and balances, doesn't want to return Senate control back to the States and restore their power over the Federal Government?

 

[ABikerSailor]

The tea baggers are probably some of the most idiotic people on earth.

Wanna know why they want to repeal this amendment? They listen to Glen Beck. He don't know shit about the Constitution either.

 

[WillowTree]

demonize demonize demonize,, demonize demonize demonize,, how did you DUmmies get so mean anyway??

 

[jillian]

Yeah. What sane person, who understands checks and balances, doesn't want to return Senate control back to the States and restore their power over the Federal Government?

what constitutes the 'state'? the people of a state? or the state legislature?

you people really are out of control.

 

[Avatar4321]

The tea baggers are probably some of the most idiotic people on earth.

Wanna know why they want to repeal this amendment? They listen to Glen Beck. He don't know shit about the Constitution either.

Alright Biker, why was the Senate set up the way it was set up?

 

[Queen]

lol, like it's not like that now...

No, it's not like that now. We vote for our Senators now.

They aren't appointed. They campaign and run for office and we go to the polls and vote for them.

 

[Queen]

Yeah. What sane person, who understands checks and balances, doesn't want to return Senate control back to the States and restore their power over the Federal Government?

Tell me how taking the power away from the people and giving it to the back room dealings is a good thing.

 

[Avatar4321]

lol, like it's not like that now...

No, it's not like that now. We vote for our Senators now.

They aren't appointed. They campaign and run for office and we go to the polls and vote for them.

Which, of course, eliminates the States powers to check the Federal Government and thus creates problems on over intrusive government.

The Senate isn't supposed to represent the people. It's supposed to Represent the States interests.

 

[Defiant1]

demonize demonize demonize,, demonize demonize demonize,, how did you DUmmies get so mean anyway??

Sinful ways and white guilt consumes them.

 

[jillian]

demonize demonize demonize,, demonize demonize demonize,, how did you DUmmies get so mean anyway??

you don't read your own posts, do you?

 

[ABikerSailor]

The state is it's people. The legislature is the representation of the people as elected by the people.

But......think about this.........with SCOTUS saying that corporations have the same rights as people and that they can contribute as much as they want, with the repeal of the 17th, corporations would have a very easy way to control the government.

 

[Avatar4321]

Yeah. What sane person, who understands checks and balances, doesn't want to return Senate control back to the States and restore their power over the Federal Government?

Tell me how taking the power away from the people and giving it to the back room dealings is a good thing.

It provides a check on the Federal Governments by the states. and a Check on the majority from creating a tyranical federal government.

 

[Queen]

demonize demonize demonize,, demonize demonize demonize,, how did you DUmmies get so mean anyway??

LOL! This is mean?

This is common sense.

We see some idiotic morons trying to take away our vote and we oppose the stupidity.

It's frightening to know there are people who would actually want the 17th amendment to be repealed.

And you call us mean dummies.

That's hilarious.

 

[Avatar4321]

The state is it's people. The legislature is the representation of the people as elected by the people.

But......think about this.........with SCOTUS saying that corporations have the same rights as people and that they can contribute as much as they want, with the repeal of the 17th, corporations would have a very easy way to control the government.

You guys are complaining about that NOW.

However, if the States had the power. Corporations would have to spend money in 50 states to influence the government rather than in on Senate.

So in reality, it would hurt the lobbiests.

 

[EriktheRed]

The tea baggers are probably some of the most idiotic people on earth.

Wanna know why they want to repeal this amendment? They listen to Glen Beck. He don't know shit about the Constitution either.

Alright Biker, why was the Senate set up the way it was set up?

Here's another question: why did the people request a change?

 

[Avatar4321]

demonize demonize demonize,, demonize demonize demonize,, how did you DUmmies get so mean anyway??

LOL! This is mean?

This is common sense.

We see some idiotic morons trying to take away our vote and we oppose the stupidity.

It's frightening to know there are people who would actually want the 17th amendment to be repealed.

And you call us mean dummies.

That's hilarious.

What's frightening is that there are people so completely ignorant as to the purpose of the Senate.