TBB, God and something coming from nothing

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    Fascinating New Theory: "The Universe Could Have Been Created from Nothing"
     
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    Wouldn't the energy they used be considered "something", JB?
     
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    No. The universe was created from nothing, therefore there is no God so we can just make up our own rules.

    That's not anarchy by the way.
     
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    I dun think JB meant to discuss religion, Mad. But assuming you did, doesn't the Bible say that God created the universe from nothing?
     
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    Actually, energy could be considered "something" but it is not considered matter(energy can exist in empty space, but matter takes up space.)

    This thinking is also found in the concepts of fission, in which matter and energy is used to create less matter and more energy.

    In the case JB is talking about, energy is being used to bring forth particles! Something that has been assumed since Curie experiments with radiation, but have not been carried out in a lab. In essence, this is the creation of matter from non-matter.
     
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    Doesn't that prove the difference between energy and matter is not as catagorical as was once thought?
     
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    An ultra-high-intensity laser beam and a two-mile-long particle accelerator isn't exactly "nothing".









    PS Nice avatar, JB. :uhoh3:
     
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    When one talks of catagories, one is referring to a way to make a distinction between them. In the case of energy and matter there may exist a process in which energy converts to matter and matter converts to energy, but there is a defined difference between the two.

    On the other hand, if one wish to suggest that energy and matter can be grouped as objectively the same thing, the the beginning of the universe, as in the case of the Big Bang, comes into question. From the theory, a differential in Energy must have occured to allow matter to come into being.

    In other words, Energy may have always existed. That lead us to some interestting concepts about existance and the Form of the Universe. But not much that can be studied with our current level of understanding.

    By the way--should this not sit in Science and Technology, JB?
     
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    You really shouldn't confuse him with science based questions, he believes in facilitated communication and telepathy.
     
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    But not from nothing, and not really without matter either since you have to supply matter in the form of electrons.
     

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