Taxes!

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  1. random3434
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    I see so many of you on here post that we are taxed too much, the government needs to stay out of our lives, you don't want to pay taxes for school since you don't have kids, that Americans are overtaxed and that taxes hurt economic growth......and so on..............



    So, I would love to see your plan on how this country can effectively run on less, or no, taxes on all levels. From cigarette, liquor taxes, to property and income tax, etc.

    Thanks, I think it will be interesting to see all of your ideas on how to better run this country with less taxes.
     
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    Um, because the fewer taxes one must pay, the more economy-stimulating money one has to spend?
     
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    Um, what's the difference when taxed money is distributed to welfare moms, city services, etc? A rich man is more than likely to hold onto his money more so than a welfare recipient. Therefore, the money wouldn't necessarily be pumped back into the economy under your proposal.
     
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    If the government were smaller and less involved in people's lives, wouldn't they need less of our money to begin with? Isn't the principle behind the US Constitution ... to limit and restrict government? When did it become the government's job to run everything?
     
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    You both make valid points, but..............


    I still don't see anyone with a good plan on how America can effectively run on no/less taxes.
     
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    The federal government (and most state governments) do what they call Baseline Budgeting. What that means is that whatever their budget was last year, they take it and add 10% to it for this year's budget. That is an impossible reality to maintain. You don't make 10% more every year, so that means that just remaining at your constant tax rate, you aren't giving the government 10% more for their budget. Just as you don't budget 10% more for your lifestyle.
    Government spending cannot continue to increase at a rate like that simply because they decide they want to budget like that.
    Typically, businesses use economy of scale to control their budgets. What that means is that as a business gets larger, they spend a bit less per unit of need than they did the year before. It's kind of like going to Sam's Club vs WalMart. You buy 100 pencils for $3.00 at Sam's, instead of 50 pencils for $2.00 at WalMart. The government doesn't use economy of scale. The only way the government can continue on it's path of baseline budgeting is to raise taxes. Oh, and trust me on this, when the government says it cut 2% off a budget item, what they really mean is that they took last years budget, added that 10% baseline, then took 2% off of that.
    It's more about them being more fiscally responsible, then they wouldn't have to raise taxes.
     
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    Thank you MM, that is interesting.

    Now, what is your plan on how to keep government out of taxing the $hit out of us?
     
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    We both agree that the government should be smaller. We differ on a smaller government collecting less taxes. If the government was smaller, the tax rate should remain the same because we are only receiving the bare minimum on public services.
     
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    Make them build realistic budgets based upon actual inflation, not their arbitrary 10%. Quit adding un-needed pork to their budgets. Quit adding more programs to spend taxpayer dollars on.
     
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    True! So what are your ideas for a smaller government, and less taxes, for America to effectively run for it's 300 million+ citizens?
     

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