Tax Cuts And 'Starving The Beast'

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  1. koshergrl
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    This thread belongs in "Conspiracy Theories"....or, alternately, "Particularly Loony Conspiracy Theories".
     
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    LOL - you don't know the history of Starve the Beast, Grover Norquist and his Wed. Evening Meetings, do you?

    Norquist and his followers don't belong to cabal, they've been upfront for years. Norquist is the Godfather of the Tea Party and it is his comment about drowning the government in a bathtub.

    "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."
    Grover Norquist

    Read more at Grover Norquist Quotes - BrainyQuote

    Please try to keep up.
     
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    And that's such a loathsome concept to you...why, exactly?

    Double points if you can answer without mindlessly repeating progressive bumperstickers and protest sign slogans.
     
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    Wall Street and Main Street Business all believe a default on the debt will be catastrophic. I suggest you turn off Fox News, tune out Rush Limbaugh, close your eyes and ears to Sarah Palin and Glen Beck and listen to people who really understand Capitalism.

    The Chamber of Commerce believes the debt will be catastrophic [talk about voter remorse, they helped elect the radicals who may bring us Armageddon].
     
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    sooo 2 entities that left derides viciously are now voices of reason? :lol: have another heaping spoonful of hypocrisy why don't you....
     
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    Controlling spending never occurred.
    One cannot reduce their debt by constantly increasing their debt and debt limit. This is true for a family, a business and a government.
    Let us suppose that average family A increases their debt by the same equivalent that their wages rise every year. When will they ever pay off their debt? Now, let us suppose that average family B uses all wage increases to reduce their debt. They will eventually pay off their debt and own their house, their car, etc. In the long run, family B is better for the economy and better off for themselves. It's not complex. Our government is acting like family A. It's going to be a hard thing for this country when the rest of the world decides to cut off the credit. We'd be better off making that decision for ourselves before the rest of the world does. Trust me, eventually they will if we continue this path deficit spending and increasing national debt.

    It happened once before, in England, when the dollar replaced the sterling as the world reserve currency. England financially imploded from that. There are moves afoot to replace the dollar as the world reserve currency, and the more the US goes into debt and just keeps printing more dollars, the more steam that move will get. The American people will get their ass handed to them when the US dollar is removed as the world reserve currency (notice I said when, not if). If our government doesn't get it's financial house in order and stop racing towards more debt we will be completely screwed.
     
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    Are you so biased you can't understand the significance of what I posted? Your need to default to an attack on the "left" and not on the issue at hand is despicable. There is nothing hypocritical in my posting a fact, and there is not a shade of intelligence in your response (and that does not surprise me one bit).
     
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    Apples and Antelopes, a family is not a government, your analogy fails to prove anything. Our debt has accumulated for centuries, in good times we spend and in bad times we spend, that's the history. A serious effort to lower the debt is not a one year issue, as the far right seems to believe. It can be reduced over decades, if and only if there is agreement on priorities.

    Look to the Preamble of our Constitution, that is IMO the vision and mission statement we should follow.
     
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    "Wall Street and Main Street Business all believe a default on the debt will be catastrophic. I suggest you turn off Fox News, tune out Rush Limbaugh, close your eyes and ears to Sarah Palin and Glen Beck and listen to people who really understand Capitalism."

    "The Chamber of Commerce believes the debt will be catastrophic [talk about voter remorse, they helped elect the radicals who may bring us Armageddon]."

    My post above had one response, calling it a non sequitur would be a compliment:

    "sooo 2 entities that left derides viciously are now voices of reason? have another heaping spoonful of hypocrisy why don't you...."

    See below a letter written to the radical Republicans by the US Chamber of Commerce.

    Multi-Industry Coalition Letter Regarding the Continuing Resolution and Debt Limit | U.S. Chamber of Commerce
     
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    Who said they were special?

    The Tea Party is made up of many factions with no single leader. Every group is an individual group with certain values in common like... limited government, strong national defense, individual responsibility etc....
     

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