Tax abatements and Farm Subsidies.

Penelope

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Tax abatements are a common tool used by governments to stimulate economic development, but the taxpayer costs of such agreements are often hidden. This is a problem, because the cost of such corporate handouts from state and local governments is estimated to be as high as $70 billion per year.

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One of the most recent and heavily publicized such examples was the $7 million in tax credits and grants that Indiana provided to Carrier Corporation to prevent it from relocating jobs to Mexico. The size of this deal is relatively small in relation to the $1.4 billion Nevada gave Tesla or the $8.7 billion Washington gave Boeing, and it's likely that few people would have known about the deal had it not been reported so heavily by the media because of President Donald Trump's involvement. The new reporting rule will help illuminate these kind of deals in thousands of local governments across the U.S.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/articles/2017-09-11/tax-abatement-reports-will-help-expose-government-handouts-to-corporations

Farm Subsidies Top $28 Billion

Agriculture | Quick Take

Jan 9, 2001 | 3 min read | Print Article

The top 1 percent of farmers receive an average of $616,000 from the government, while the top 10 percent of farmers received an average of $308,000 each over the last four years.

Farm Subsidies Top $28 Billion | Taxpayers for Common Sense

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Note the date of Farm subsidies, we have been giving them subsidies forever. Then we the consumer pays for the rising costs of food, the local taxes and state taxes the corps don't pay.

Who says the US is not a socialized nation, we give to capitalists so the CEO and owners can make billions.

Instead of given out more in food stamps they are taking them away.
Instead of money going to public schools we now give it to private schools.
Instead of healthcare for all, we can't as the money needs to go to corps, farmers and the military.
Prisons are big business now, we also subsidize them and pay for them.

Instead of improving HUD, a subsidized housing program, they are going to raise rents , and even on seniors and they do not have enough of them already.

I am going to give a break and not get into the small daycare hand outs. You know those under 6 kids.

Who do you think pays for this??? And the GOP has the guts to talk about Medicare , Medicaid, Hud, SNap and Chip. Yet we are afraid Of "Socialism" for the working poor?
 
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The Taxpayer pays for all of it! That is roughly 50% of Americans! Those who cry the loudest about how the money is spent are the NOT taxpayers!
 
Where are all the naysayers of socialism???? Cat got your tongue.
 
The Taxpayer pays for all of it! That is roughly 50% of Americans! Those who cry the loudest about how the money is spent are the NOT taxpayers!

Sure they are, like me, I'm a taxpayer, and many are taxpayers. Human all eat, need water, and usually live in an apt or house, or even a tent. They , everyone pays for it.

So are you saying the rich need subsidies??? I take it your fine with the rich getting a subsidy or tax abatement but not for the working poor?? or disables, or seniors?
 
The farming industry is a joke. We often pay them to not grow anything, or to get rid of what they’ve grown. The ethanol scam and subsidies are the only things keeping them going. A purge is long overdue.
 
Our government even pays those small daycares for off time work like grocery shopping and cleaning their house. Maybe they should pass that time to their people who use daycare. Why does the taxpayer pay for daycares, we are a socialized nation that why, but only for businesses.

A construction man passes the proposal to the customer, why doesn't the daycare do the same??

Socialized daycare. We all pay for them.
 
Penelope, I'm among the proponents of USA adopting the improved trade policy described in Wikipedia's “Import Certificates” article.
The unilateral IC policy would significantly reduce, (if not entirely eliminate) our nations chronic annual trade deficits of goods while increasing our GDP and numbers of jobs more than otherwise. The policies entire net direct costs are passed on to USA purchasers of imported goods. Tax abatements would not accomplish this.

Respectfully, Supposn
 
The farming industry is a joke. We often pay them to not grow anything, or to get rid of what they’ve grown. The ethanol scam and subsidies are the only things keeping them going. A purge is long overdue.
I've heard of that--pay for not growing
does anyone know why/how that started?
thanks all replies
 
The farming industry is a joke. We often pay them to not grow anything, or to get rid of what they’ve grown. The ethanol scam and subsidies are the only things keeping them going. A purge is long overdue.
BlackFlag, I haven't yet found a comparatively simpler explanation of USDA's methods for supporting the prices of commodities.
Among other U.S. Department of Agriculture's expenses due to their commodity price supporting programs, are subsidies for USA agricultural exports and limitations of such imports. The entire federal budget expenses due to those programs are passed on to the USA taxpayers through annual federal budgets. Additionally, the programs pass on increased prices of those foods sold to USA consumers.

The proposed Import Certificate policy somewhat reduces USA producers price disadvantages to imported products from lower wage nations. It's applicable to almost any goods, (including agricultural goods), and its entire net costs are passed on only to USA purchasers of imported goods.

Beyond the federal expenditures that are passed on, the remaining market-
determined costs serve as indirect but an effective price subsidy for USA's exports. Considering U.S.D.A's agricultural commodities' price subsidies, the Import Certificate policy would not additionally increase the prices of price-supported imported commodities, and it would to some extent reduce the costs of USDA's commodity price supporting programs.

Respectfully, Supposn
 

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