Tased in the Courtroom

[Bfgrn]

that lady had disregard for everyone around her and so did her family!
Give me a fucking break!

Well she certainly paid a very HIGH price,didn't she... maybe you need to give HER a f'n break...you sure give the thugs with badges that murdered her a BIG f'n break! Cower to authority...a HUGE right wing personality marker...

Schizophrenia is a wicked disease...but, she probably deserved that too, right?

Ever hear the saying, "walk a mile in my shoes"... do YOU know what her life was like? Did she have caring parents, proper diagnosis and treatment for her mental illness?...Probably NOT with our health for wealth system...

Hey, you can call yourself what ever you wish...but you don't have to answer to me. You remind me of Luke 16:15 - Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

 

[Amanda]

The problem with the "Let her wear herself out" approach is that the cops can't leave until the situation is calmed down/resolved. If you called the cops and they took a long time showing up and something bad happened because of it would you be comforted knowing that they had been standing around on their last call waiting for someone to calm down on their own?

Cops aren't social workers. We all know what tools they have at their disposal. If you call them to take care of a situation you have to know that someone might get hurt as a result if they don't cooperate. It's hardly a perfect way to deal with things but it is the system we have. This is a good example of how reality trumps utopian thinking and it's why liberals often fail. Yes, it would be great if we could all join hands and be best friends, but that's not realistic. Wish it all you want, that won't make it so.

It seems even most of the libs here are "getting" it this time, but there's always 1 or 2 that don't. The way
Bfgrn is thrashing around I think maybe an internet tasing may be necessary to restore order. Or maybe we could just toss him a ham sandwich

 

[Emma]

Clay County Woman Dies After Being Shocked By Taser Gun - Jacksonville News Story - WJXT Jacksonville

A few interesting points I didn't see in the above story:

Delafield's family members told Channel 4 the woman did not take her medication on Monday, and that may have been why she picked up the weapons.

Musco also said Delafield's family gave the officers permission to use the Taser on the woman.

Green Cove Springs police told Channel 4's Casey Black that officers had responded to Delafield's home 29 times in the last two years for disturbances.

 

[JBeukema]

Police are not her babysitters. If the family didn't watch her, then they are to blame. Personal responsibility- stop trying to blame the cops

 

[GHook93]

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

This could have also been posted in the humor forum.

I like how the defendant stood up (as if on cue) and started yelling when the prosecutor noted that he was agressive towards the arresting officer.

I noticed that too! Not a good way to argue your not aggressive.

I still get a kick out of seeing someone tasered!


I am also sick and tired of hearing the PC BS campaign against tasers. That they are immoral and too painful. Boo hoo! Tasers are a non-lethal and permanent method to end a conflict quick. Ever since that little bitch got taser and screamed like a women "don't taser me bro." The ACLU (Always Communist Loving Union) has surged against tasers!

 

[Tommy Lucchese]

Colonel Yates: " That's why we issue Tasers, they're a less than lethal weapon, ahhh, no one gets hurt and it stops the agressive action immediately."

Well Colonel you're one for three...

NOT a lethal weapon?

DEATH by Taser...
340. April 24, 2008: Kevin Piskura, 24, Cincinnati, Ohio
341. April 24, 2008: Dewayne Chatt, 39, Memphis, Tennessee
342. April 27, 2008: Paul Thompson, 24, Greensboro, North Carolina
343. April 28, 2008: Jermaine Ward, 28, Jackson, Tennessee
344. May 4, 2008: Joe Kubat, 21, St. Paul, Minnesota
345. May 6, 2008: James S. Wilson, 22, Alton, Missouri
346. May 28, 2008: Ricardo Manuel Abrahams, 44, Woodland, California
347. May 31, 2008: Robert Ingram, 27, Raceland, Louisiana
348. June 5, 2008: Willie Maye, 43, Birmingham, Alabama
349. June 6, 2008: Donovan Graham, 39, Meriden, Connecticut
350. June 8, 2008: Quintrell T. Brannon, 25, Vincennes, Indiana
351. June 9, 2008: Tony Curtis Bradway, 26, Brooklyn, New York
352. June 23, 2008: Jeffrey Marreel, 36, Norfolk, Ontario
353. June 24, 2008: Ernest Graves, 26, Rockford, Illinois
354. June 27, 2008: Nicholas Cody, 27, Dothan, Alabama
355. July 2, 2008: Isaac Bass, 34, Louisville, Kentucky
356. July 4, 2008: Othello Pierre, 23, Baton Rouge, Louisiana
357. July 8, 2008: Samuel DeBoise, 29, St. Louis, Missouri
358. July 8, 2008: Carlos Vargas, 42, San Bernardino, California
359. July 14, 2008: Marion Wilson Jr., 52, Houston, Texas
360. July 14, 2008: Deshoun Keyon Torrence, 18, Long Beach, California
361. July 22, 2008: Michael Langan, 17, Winnipeg, Manitoba
362. July 23, 2008: Richard Smith, 46, Dallas, Texas
363. July 26, 2008: Anthony Davidson, Statesville, 29, North Carolina
364. August 4, 2008: Jerry Jones, 45, Beaumont, Texas
365. August 4, 2008: Andre Thomas, 37, Swissvale, Pennsylvania
366. August 2, 2008: Lawrence Rosenthal, 54, Hemet, California
367. August 10, 2008: Kiethedric Hines, 31, Rockford, Illinois
<snip>

Correlation does not equal causation.

 

[Tommy Lucchese]

Here are your options when in a physical confrontation with the police:

1. Get "restrained," which usually leads to an ass-kicking when you fight back.

2. Get whacked around with a baton or Asp.

3. Get shot.

4. Get Tasered.

I know which one I'd pick.

 

[Bfgrn]

Clay County Woman Dies After Being Shocked By Taser Gun - Jacksonville News Story - WJXT Jacksonville

A few interesting points I didn't see in the above story:

Delafield's family members told Channel 4 the woman did not take her medication on Monday, and that may have been why she picked up the weapons.

Musco also said Delafield's family gave the officers permission to use the Taser on the woman.

Green Cove Springs police told Channel 4's Casey Black that officers had responded to Delafield's home 29 times in the last two years for disturbances.

THAT shoots Luissa's assertion:

"And from what you posted I guess Cops before they try to protect other citizens from being attacked by a women with a knife or suppose to get a complete medical history or give her a mental evalution before they do anything? Give me a fucking break!"

"It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners."
Camus

There are NO thinking people here Albert. Ironic, we can even find thinking people at World Net Daily...not exactly a liberal bastion of thought...

Tasers 'R' Us
Posted: September 28, 2007
1:00 am Eastern

By Ilana Mercer
© 2009

Liberty is a simple thing. It's the unassailable right to shout, flail your arms, even verbally provoke a politician, unmolested. Tyranny is when those small things can get you assaulted, incarcerated, injured and even killed.
"[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE"]offense[/ame]"
Evidence of tyranny in America is mounting. For the of questioning John Kerry persistently and vociferously, Andrew Meyer, a journalism student, was pounced upon, tasered, detained overnight, and charged with violently resisting arrest (a felony) and disturbing the peace (a misdemeanor).

We listened transfixed as Sgt. James Kuehnlein terrorized and threatened to fabricate charges against another young man, Brett Darrow. In yet another clip, Patrolman Richard Kovach stands over a handcuffed Heidi Gill and repeatedly tasers her. Sadistically, Kovach keeps jolting the helpless woman. Disoriented, she crawls around on the ground, her head slamming against the police car.

Discharging an electric current into a human being is not without its dangers. It can cause permanent heart-muscle damage. If the person is thin, has exposed skin, a pre-existing heart condition, or is on certain drugs, a tasering can result in death, warns John Mccrie of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

Emily Delafield was tasered for 160 seconds. She died of heart failure, linked to the electrocution. The burly bullies who killed her were, apparently, incapable of restraining a wheelchair-bound woman.

Are such violations on the rise? Or are they simply more likely to be videoed, in the age of YouTube?

The former says Mccrie. "There are more tasers out there," and cops are eager to test them out. "Police have long sought to have a non-lethal weapon, and this is the weapon of choice. And so they're just inclined to… overuse it sometimes."

The cases of Meyer and Patrolman Kovach's victim exemplify an excessive use of police force, Mccrie told CNN. Ditto the case of the disabled, now-dead Delafield. "If a person is threatening a police officer," or someone else; if he's about to take his own life or to do something dangerous – throw a bomb, for example – obviously, using a taser is then reasonable, explained Mccrie.

Otherwise, there can be no excuse for deploying a dangerous device to tackle someone who is confined, cuffed or non-confrontational.

Abuse of power was caught on camera again, as a man peacefully removed himself from a discordant council meeting in Roseland, Ind. Police pounced on him and arrested him for no other reason than that they can.

The case of Monica Montoya offers more evidence that "'To Protect and Serve' often translates into harass and control," as one blogger put it. This Good Samaritan stopped to assist at the scene of an accident. When she attempted to depart, Montoya was tackled, cuffed and carted off by the cops, bawling in bewilderment. Her legal travails continue today.

The law was brought into disrepute once more when Police Officer Wendell Adams arrested 20-year-old Kendra Bull for "reckless conduct." The McDonald's employee served His Highness an excessively salty hamburger.

With distressingly few exceptions, the punditocracy, left and right, gleefully agreed that it was OK for campus police to assault Meyer, the pacifist protester. The young man's cries of "Don't tase me, bro" provided endless comic relief. Representing the ruling class – and also no friend of freedom – Kerry concurred. Virtual bags of bloggerel were devoted to rationalizing the incident: Meyer had orchestrated the disturbance; Darrow was in the habit of baiting cops. Blah, blah.

Even if these assertions are true, so what? These incidents are not about an annoying kid who might have been playing to the cameras (Meyer). Or an insufficiently subservient subject (Darrow) who dared to assert his rights to his sovereign (Sgt. Kuehnlein). What's at stake is the proper role of law enforcement in a free society. Free people grasp that assaulting a person who has not harmed a soul is unconscionable. Fail to recognize this simple thing and you are no better than a slave – or perhaps you haven't internalized that you too could end up on the receiving side of such usurpations.

Freedoms, you say, are secure so long as citizens can check police excesses by recording, photographing or videotaping these public servants performing their duties. Not so. The police can video us without our consent, but we film them at the risk of a felony prosecution.

"There's been a rash of arrests of late for videotaping police," writes Radley Balko, a civil liberties specialist. Balko has catalogued countless cases where individuals who've filmed police excesses have been arrested on felony wiretapping charges and threatened with lengthy jail sentences. Balko has called for a repeal of laws "explicitly forbidding the recording, photographing or videotaping of police officers. [W]hile they're on duty, they serve the public. And the public, their employer, should have every right to keep them accountable."

As Thomas Jefferson said, "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57870

 

[Big Black Dog]

Loved it! Light him up! Maybe next time he will think before launching into the instant asshole mode.

 

[Bfgrn]

Loved it! Light him up! Maybe next time he will think before launching into the instant asshole mode.

Yes, conformity is a right wing law...and NEVER question government when it arrests, assaults or kills human beings... but just do propose some program to HELP people...THAT is evil...

PEA brain...

 

[Emma]

Clay County Woman Dies After Being Shocked By Taser Gun - Jacksonville News Story - WJXT Jacksonville

A few interesting points I didn't see in the above story:

Delafield's family members told Channel 4 the woman did not take her medication on Monday, and that may have been why she picked up the weapons.

Musco also said Delafield's family gave the officers permission to use the Taser on the woman.

Green Cove Springs police told Channel 4's Casey Black that officers had responded to Delafield's home 29 times in the last two years for disturbances.

THAT shoots Luissa's assertion:

"And from what you posted I guess Cops before they try to protect other citizens from being attacked by a women with a knife or suppose to get a complete medical history or give her a mental evalution before they do anything? Give me a fucking break!"

How so?