Tariff Drop, Negotiating Ploy?

[OnePercenter]

Trump knows exactly what he’s doing. His goal is to accomplish everything he promised during his campaign. His main goal is to improve the lives of every American.
The approach this man is taking is genius!

Trump is a lot smarter than some think. In a way... he reminds me of Colombo. lol

What a chump! Trump firmly believes that he is the President of the United States of Corporate America. He has done NOTHING for the working class.

Try selling that nonsense to the millions who are now employed. lol

At very best 1%er is a trust baby and more likely he's still living in mom's basement.

So you write an attack post because you can't refute mine with facts?

 

[tycho1572]

Trump knows exactly what he’s doing. His goal is to accomplish everything he promised during his campaign. His main goal is to improve the lives of every American.
The approach this man is taking is genius!

Trump is a lot smarter than some think. In a way... he reminds me of Colombo. lol

What a chump! Trump firmly believes that he is the President of the United States of Corporate America. He has done NOTHING for the working class.

Try selling that nonsense to the millions who are now employed. lol

At very best 1%er is a trust baby and more likely he's still living in mom's basement.

So you write an attack post because you can't refute mine with facts?

You’re an idiot. I’m glad you only represent 1%.

 

[OnePercenter]

Trump knows exactly what he’s doing. His goal is to accomplish everything he promised during his campaign. His main goal is to improve the lives of every American.
The approach this man is taking is genius!

Trump is a lot smarter than some think. In a way... he reminds me of Colombo. lol

What a chump! Trump firmly believes that he is the President of the United States of Corporate America. He has done NOTHING for the working class.

Try selling that nonsense to the millions who are now employed. lol

At very best 1%er is a trust baby and more likely he's still living in mom's basement.

So you write an attack post because you can't refute mine with facts?

You’re an idiot. I’m glad you only represent 1%.

You can't refute my post with facts and you call ME an idiot?

 

[tycho1572]

What a chump! Trump firmly believes that he is the President of the United States of Corporate America. He has done NOTHING for the working class.

Try selling that nonsense to the millions who are now employed. lol

At very best 1%er is a trust baby and more likely he's still living in mom's basement.

So you write an attack post because you can't refute mine with facts?

You’re an idiot. I’m glad you only represent 1%.

You can't refute my post with facts and you call ME an idiot?

You’re the one arguing facts, dumbass.

 

[OnePercenter]

Try selling that nonsense to the millions who are now employed. lol

At very best 1%er is a trust baby and more likely he's still living in mom's basement.

So you write an attack post because you can't refute mine with facts?

You’re an idiot. I’m glad you only represent 1%.

You can't refute my post with facts and you call ME an idiot?

You’re the one arguing facts, dumbass.

Again. You can't refute my post with facts and you call ME an idiot?

 

[tycho1572]

At very best 1%er is a trust baby and more likely he's still living in mom's basement.

So you write an attack post because you can't refute mine with facts?

You’re an idiot. I’m glad you only represent 1%.

You can't refute my post with facts and you call ME an idiot?

You’re the one arguing facts, dumbass.

Again. You can't refute my post with facts and you call ME an idiot?

Let me know when you post something that doesn’t remind me of being at work dealing with a patient with mental issues.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What a chump! Trump firmly believes that he is the President of the United States of Corporate America. He has done NOTHING for the working class.

Try selling that nonsense to the millions who are now employed. lol

At very best 1%er is a trust baby and more likely he's still living in mom's basement.

So you write an attack post because you can't refute mine with facts?

You’re an idiot. I’m glad you only represent 1%.

You can't refute my post with facts and you call ME an idiot?

If the dunce cap fits..........

 

[Flopper]

Free market should mean level playing field but international trade has been stacked against America for decades. This is common knowledge.

A level playing field can only exist in countries where there is a free market. That means no government support for failing industries, no special tax treatments, and no tariffs to protect them from foreign competition. In short, there is no such thing as a level playing field. For example China takes an active part in supporting certain industries, manipulates currency and will engage in any many tactics that US considers unfair. The US is always violating trade treaties ranging from serious acts such as subsidizing industries to labeling Tuna as Dolphin Safe. This is why there is no trade agreement between the US and China. In fact, the US has no agreement with 7 of it's 10 major trading partners, The US uses WTO agreements for 65% of it's trade.

Trade agreements allow a nation to decide which industries it will negotiate protection at the expense to other industries, what actions of government are to be forbidden and which will be condoned. Some industries in a country will be winners and others will be losers. Free trade agreements attempt to eliminate government interference in the free market, however no free trade agreement is completely free of government inference.

Attempting to protect industries that can't compete in world markets with tariffs, subsides, and other government handouts may be good political policy but it's bad economic policy.

 

[Flopper]

Assuming Trump's end game is a level playing field is this mostly histrionics to get Canada and Mexico off their high horses? How hard ball will this get? What kind of collateral damage to bystanders such as China and the EU is he willing to inflict?

You're not forming the question the right way, the question is, "how much is China, Canada and Mexico willing to pay for their government patsies as they betray capitalist concepts and exploit America before they decide to change their ways"?

This is long overdue. Trump just solidified the Rust Belt votes and I predict he will also get more votes from Black and Hispanic communities who want opportunities and their dignity back, not subsidizing some communist/socialist foreign government to steal these jobs.

It might well help steel mills and aluminum production. However, it is very likely to have a negative effect on US car dealers, Auto manufacturers, Boat manufacturers, The beer industry, and Retailers. If other countries retaliate, it will hurt all Americans. Fears of inflation will become reality and the stock market will plummet. Nobody wins a trade war.

Don't know where you live but inflation was here in FL long before the tariff talk wage push inflation was here at least in the building trades.

The current US inflation rate is about 2.3%. In South Florida it's a bit less. Inflated construction prices are common across the country now. Roll the clock back a few years and falling housing cost was common.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Assuming Trump's end game is a level playing field is this mostly histrionics to get Canada and Mexico off their high horses? How hard ball will this get? What kind of collateral damage to bystanders such as China and the EU is he willing to inflict?

So many moving parts, it could take years or decades to accurately account for all the effects.

 

[Flopper]

Trump haters obsess over every utterance or phrase that he makes. One thing they never learn is that with Trump, it's all a negotiation. Trump starts every negotiation with a hard line- and he gets great results.

Democrats want to go in with a pre-greased asshole and knee pads. Then they'll wonder why we are getting ass fucked!

We'll see how it plays out.

It it's all negotiation, we're in deep shit.

Trump cancelled TPO, a trade deal that encompassed 40% of world trade and the fasting growing markets in the world. Unlike Trump predicted, the TPO is not dead without the US. It has been reborn as the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership with China replacing the US as the central figure.

For two years the clown has been promising to cancel the Iran nuclear deal and negotiate a new one. What has he done? Absolutely nothing but infuriated the major European countries that were party to the deal. This ended with the other signers pledging to honor it regardless of what the US did.

Meanwhile the Canada EU deal is nearing completion and Trump has ignored it.

NAFTA negotiators are continuing to resolve disputes just as they have done for the last 15 years while completely ignoring Trump who vacillates from walking out on NAFTA to renegotiating selected parts.

How about the bilateral South Korea US deal. While his negotiators were meeting with South Korea, Trump was bad mouthing both the deal and the South Korean president.

And there's the Paris Climate Accord which Trump walked out on and said he was open to making changes. When Macron asked Trump what he wanted to change, Trump was dumbfounded. He apparent had no idea what was actual in the Accord.

And then there was the day that started with a negotiation of the bipartisan immigration deal and ended with a Trump's “shithole” comment that totally side tracked negotiations.

Then there's the brilliant negotiations with the Democrats which changed the support on the tax bill from 90% opposition to 100%.

 

[Zander]

Trump haters obsess over every utterance or phrase that he makes. One thing they never learn is that with Trump, it's all a negotiation. Trump starts every negotiation with a hard line- and he gets great results.

Democrats want to go in with a pre-greased asshole and knee pads. Then they'll wonder why we are getting ass fucked!

We'll see how it plays out.

It it's all negotiation, we're in deep shit.

Trump cancelled TPO, a trade deal that encompassed 40% of world trade and the fasting growing markets in the world. Unlike Trump predicted, the TPO is not dead without the US. It has been reborn as the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership with China replacing the US as the central figure.

For two years the clown has been promising to cancel the Iran nuclear deal and negotiate a new one. What has he done? Absolutely nothing but infuriated the major European countries that were party to the deal. This ended with the other signers pledging to honor it regardless of what the US did.

Meanwhile the Canada EU deal is nearing completion and Trump has ignored it.

NAFTA negotiators are continuing to resolve disputes just as they have done for the last 15 years while completely ignoring Trump who vacillates from walking out on NAFTA to renegotiating selected parts.

How about the bilateral South Korea US deal. While his negotiators were meeting with South Korea, Trump was bad mouthing both the deal and the South Korean president.

And there's the Paris Climate Accord which Trump walked out on and said he was open to making changes. When Macron asked Trump what he wanted to change, Trump was dumbfounded. He apparent had no idea what was actual in the Accord.

And then there was the day that started with a negotiation of the bipartisan immigration deal and ended with a Trump's “shithole” comment that totally side tracked negotiations.

Then there's the brilliant negotiations with the Democrats which changed the support on the tax bill from 90% opposition to 100%.

Tissue?

 

[OnePercenter]

Try selling that nonsense to the millions who are now employed. lol

At very best 1%er is a trust baby and more likely he's still living in mom's basement.

So you write an attack post because you can't refute mine with facts?

You’re an idiot. I’m glad you only represent 1%.

You can't refute my post with facts and you call ME an idiot?

If the dunce cap fits..........

You can't refute my post with facts so you go into attack the poster mode. Very adult of you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

At very best 1%er is a trust baby and more likely he's still living in mom's basement.

So you write an attack post because you can't refute mine with facts?

You’re an idiot. I’m glad you only represent 1%.

You can't refute my post with facts and you call ME an idiot?

If the dunce cap fits..........

You can't refute my post with facts so you go into attack the poster mode. Very adult of you.

You posted facts? Where?

 

[william the wie]

The ten year treasury is going up steadily so China and the rest of the world are not expecting much trouble at all.

 

[Picaro]

The ten year treasury is going up steadily so China and the rest of the world are not expecting much trouble at all.

Yes. The negative interest rates here are smaller than the negative interest rates everywhere else with similar stability. This is also a drag on interest rates itself, having so much cash pouring in with few places to put it. Major market movers like Apple don't borrow anything, for one.

 

[william the wie]

The ten year treasury is going up steadily so China and the rest of the world are not expecting much trouble at all.

Yes. The negative interest rates here are smaller than the negative interest rates everywhere else with similar stability. This is also a drag on interest rates itself, having so much cash pouring in with few places to put it. Major market movers like Apple don't borrow anything, for one.

In large part they can't. Commodore was the first company to ship one million computers. Block Buster was one of the biggest high-tech companies in the world at one time, it displaced Polaroid if memory serves. The Microsofts of the world are rare.