Take the guns first, due process second.

[pknopp]

Trumps claim to love the 2nd amendment and his promise to protect it, yet here he is trying to remove it, as well as the 4th amendment.

Oh, yeah. If we'd only vote Democrat, the Dems would gladly let us keep our guns. Dream on.

Did you keep your guns when Obama was president? Is Trump not threatening your guns? It's OK because so far he has only banned bump stops?

Know what that reminds me of. I walk out to my pasture to find a wolf munching on my cows. So do I shoot the wolves? Na, I shoot the neighbors cat instead. The very fact that the Vagas shooter used a bump stock most likely saved lives. They were nothing but a gimmick. All Teump did with that ban was raise the price of a bump stock from $39.99 to $500.00.

^The very fact that the Vagas shooter used a bump stock most likely saved lives.

"Many firearms experts determined the Las Vegas shooter’s use of a bump stock actually prevented more casualties and (injuries) due to its inconsistency, inaccuracy, and lack of control."
— Michael Williams on Tuesday, October 17th, 2017 in press release

Did bump stocks prevent more casualties in Las Vegas?

You ever try one? Jam o matic. But that brings up another point. Trump banned them, basically did for them what Obama did for the AR-15, so why more shootings? And I don't give a crap what politifact says. They also said Hillary never lied about anything. Try harder trumpkin, you are not doing so good.

They also said Hillary never lied about anything.

No they didn't.

All False statements involving Hillary Clinton | PolitiFact

Seems that it is you with the false statements.

 

[Crixus]

haaaaaaaaaaaaa..................... i am a female & my husband was in the Marines, so ya - we gots guns. just not assault weapons, dippity do duh.

A dubious term with a variety of subjective meanings.

.

m'k... those that take high velocity ammo that can take multi round mags & drums.

You mean, like these:

do they take .223 ammo for hunting? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But, you see why you are not qualified to make a decision on what is an "assault weapon" right?

Going by the 1994 crime bill if the second one up had a flash hider and a collapsible stock it could qualify as a banned weapon unless it's welded on. I think anyway. Been awhile.

 

[Crixus]

Oh, yeah. If we'd only vote Democrat, the Dems would gladly let us keep our guns. Dream on.

Did you keep your guns when Obama was president? Is Trump not threatening your guns? It's OK because so far he has only banned bump stops?

Know what that reminds me of. I walk out to my pasture to find a wolf munching on my cows. So do I shoot the wolves? Na, I shoot the neighbors cat instead. The very fact that the Vagas shooter used a bump stock most likely saved lives. They were nothing but a gimmick. All Teump did with that ban was raise the price of a bump stock from $39.99 to $500.00.

^The very fact that the Vagas shooter used a bump stock most likely saved lives.

"Many firearms experts determined the Las Vegas shooter’s use of a bump stock actually prevented more casualties and (injuries) due to its inconsistency, inaccuracy, and lack of control."
— Michael Williams on Tuesday, October 17th, 2017 in press release

Did bump stocks prevent more casualties in Las Vegas?

You ever try one? Jam o matic. But that brings up another point. Trump banned them, basically did for them what Obama did for the AR-15, so why more shootings? And I don't give a crap what politifact says. They also said Hillary never lied about anything. Try harder trumpkin, you are not doing so good.

They also said Hillary never lied about anything.

No they didn't.

All False statements involving Hillary Clinton | PolitiFact

Seems that it is you with the false statements.

Point it out. That or go back to tugging it to cat porn.

 

[pknopp]

Did you keep your guns when Obama was president? Is Trump not threatening your guns? It's OK because so far he has only banned bump stops?

Know what that reminds me of. I walk out to my pasture to find a wolf munching on my cows. So do I shoot the wolves? Na, I shoot the neighbors cat instead. The very fact that the Vagas shooter used a bump stock most likely saved lives. They were nothing but a gimmick. All Teump did with that ban was raise the price of a bump stock from $39.99 to $500.00.

^The very fact that the Vagas shooter used a bump stock most likely saved lives.

"Many firearms experts determined the Las Vegas shooter’s use of a bump stock actually prevented more casualties and (injuries) due to its inconsistency, inaccuracy, and lack of control."
— Michael Williams on Tuesday, October 17th, 2017 in press release

Did bump stocks prevent more casualties in Las Vegas?

You ever try one? Jam o matic. But that brings up another point. Trump banned them, basically did for them what Obama did for the AR-15, so why more shootings? And I don't give a crap what politifact says. They also said Hillary never lied about anything. Try harder trumpkin, you are not doing so good.

They also said Hillary never lied about anything.

No they didn't.

All False statements involving Hillary Clinton | PolitiFact

Seems that it is you with the false statements.

Point it out. That or go back to tugging it to cat porn.

What do you think the link is for?

 

[Rustic]

So this is what Trump said. Mike Pence says take ANYTHING that is dangerous. I gotta ask how this squares with Trumps claim to love the 2nd amendment and his promise to protect it, yet here he is trying to remove it, as well as the 4th amendment.



So I ask you die hard trumpkins, y'all good with this?

RW's didn't moan a single peep when Romney put a ban on military weapons in Mass.

if you actually believe they're going to pull their lips off of Trumps fat ass and speak out REGARDLESS what he does to gun rights you're kidding yourself.

ronny reagan banned assault rifles & W. let them back on the market.

Lol
You know nothing about firearms shit for brains

 

[Crixus]

So this is what Trump said. Mike Pence says take ANYTHING that is dangerous. I gotta ask how this squares with Trumps claim to love the 2nd amendment and his promise to protect it, yet here he is trying to remove it, as well as the 4th amendment.



So I ask you die hard trumpkins, y'all good with this?

RW's didn't moan a single peep when Romney put a ban on military weapons in Mass.

if you actually believe they're going to pull their lips off of Trumps fat ass and speak out REGARDLESS what he does to gun rights you're kidding yourself.

ronny reagan banned assault rifles & W. let them back on the market.

Lol
You know nothing about firearms shit for brains

But she said her hubby was a marine. She has to know.

 

[Crixus]

None of it really matters. Trumps been able to work the illegal immigration thing along, but ultimately he has failed to keep his promise there. And it looks like he is starting g to crawfish on his promises about the 2nd amendment.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

haaaaaaaaaaaaa..................... i am a female & my husband was in the Marines, so ya - we gots guns. just not assault weapons, dippity do duh.

A dubious term with a variety of subjective meanings.

.

m'k... those that take high velocity ammo that can take multi round mags & drums.

You mean, like these:

Could you clear it up further please. The high vel ammo part. Playtime don't understand how all that works. I don't see threads on those barrels so would you high velocity ammo with those or subsonic?

Playtime has demonstrated that she should not be part of the process of defining which weapons should be banned. She is clueless.

But, to clear it up, every one of those would be considered "high-velocity" whether chambered in .223 or something else, unless they are specifically NOT high-velocity or maybe "subsonic" cartridges. "High-velocity" can range from 1,900 feet per second to over 4,000 feet per second.

Pretty much every single rifle caliber could be considered "high-velocity".

The question I have is, why does velocity matter? .300 Blackout is deadly as FUCK in the AR system and it is subsonic.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Concerning more gun control the Left salivates over......

Any additional "Gun Control" only affects law abiding citizens.....period.
So further infringements only mean it gets more dangerous for law abiding people who have had their gun rights severely restricted.

So, which is the lesser of two evils?

1). The .0000000001% chance you could be in a mass shooting in your lifetime

OR

2). The 9% chance you would fall victim to a home invasion, car jacking or rape because criminals knew you aren't armed?

Folks, no matter how many false flag shootings the left is willing to create......allowing them to disarm you is a mistake you will live to regret....likely, once.

 

[Crixus]

haaaaaaaaaaaaa..................... i am a female & my husband was in the Marines, so ya - we gots guns. just not assault weapons, dippity do duh.

A dubious term with a variety of subjective meanings.

.

m'k... those that take high velocity ammo that can take multi round mags & drums.

You mean, like these:

Could you clear it up further please. The high vel ammo part. Playtime don't understand how all that works. I don't see threads on those barrels so would you high velocity ammo with those or subsonic?

Playtime has demonstrated that she should not be part of the process of defining which weapons should be banned. She is clueless.

But, to clear it up, every one of those would be considered "high-velocity" whether chambered in .223 or something else, unless they are specifically NOT high-velocity or maybe "subsonic" cartridges. "High-velocity" can range from 1,900 feet per second to over 4,000 feet per second.

Pretty much every single rifle caliber could be considered "high-velocity".

The question I have is, why does velocity matter? .300 Blackout is deadly as FUCK in the AR system and it is subsonic.

yup.

 

[FA_Q2]

So this is what Trump said. Mike Pence says take ANYTHING that is dangerous. I gotta ask how this squares with Trumps claim to love the 2nd amendment and his promise to protect it, yet here he is trying to remove it, as well as the 4th amendment.



So I ask you die hard trumpkins, y'all good with this?

Trump has no central driving philosophy and no core values.

 

[Crixus]

Concerning more gun control the Left salivates over......

Any additional "Gun Control" only affects law abiding citizens.....period.
So further infringements only mean it gets more dangerous for law abiding people who have had their gun rights severely restricted.

So, which is the lesser of two evils?

1). The .0000000001% chance you could be in a mass shooting in your lifetime

OR

2). The 9% chance you would fall victim to a home invasion, car jacking or rape because criminals knew you aren't armed?

Folks, no matter how many false flag shootings the left is willing to create......allowing them to disarm you is a mistake you will live to regret....likely, once.

One only needs to remember back to 9/11. I remember watching the news and them saying Americans overwhelmingly support sacrificing some privacy for safety. And what did they get? The TSA who has had more scandal and a 99% fail rate at detecting threats to airlines. We also got 20 years of war and nothing to show for it at all. So now we have Donald Trump advocating removing personal firearms from American citizens with NO due process. This is where tards like playtime don't get it. People like that say "I own guns and my hubs was in the marines", yet she could one day have her door kicked in and her guns and steak knives taken away just because someone didn't like what she posted on USMB.

 

[Crixus]

So this is what Trump said. Mike Pence says take ANYTHING that is dangerous. I gotta ask how this squares with Trumps claim to love the 2nd amendment and his promise to protect it, yet here he is trying to remove it, as well as the 4th amendment.



So I ask you die hard trumpkins, y'all good with this?

Trump has no central driving philosophy and no core values.

And he is all over the place.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Trump’s contempt for – and ignorance of – the rule of law comes as no surprise.

 

[Crixus]

Trump’s contempt for – and ignorance of – the rule of law comes as no surprise.

On that I am beginning to agree.

 

[danielpalos]

...the left could have made better use of that human resource.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

one of the first things trump did when he got the keys to the white house:

Trump blames 'mental illness' for shootings, but rolled back Obama regulation on gun sales

Christopher Wilson
Senior Writer
Yahoo NewsAugust 5, 2019

In the wake of this weekend’s mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, President Trump was quick to point to mental illness as a cause, echoing a Republican talking point that emerged in interviews and social media posts on Sunday.

“Mental illness and hatred pull the trigger, not the gun,” said Trump in a speech Monday morning from the White House. He said the country “must make sure that those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety do not have access to firearms, and that, if they do, those firearms can be taken through rapid due process.”

But in his first full month in office, Trump signed a bill rolling back an Obama-era regulation that would have made it more difficult for people with mental illnesses to purchase firearms. The rule would have used Social Security records to add about 75,000 names to the database used in background checks of gun buyers (from licensed firearms dealers). People receiving supplemental-income support for mental disability and those found unfit to handle their own financial affairs would have been precluded from purchasing firearms. While the rule went on the books just before Trump took office in January 2017, compliance was not mandatory until December 2017.
[...]
Trump blames 'mental illness' for shootings, but rolled back Obama regulation on gun sales

Please point out any of the changes that Trump made that affected the shooters in El Paso and Dayton? I'll wait.

they weren't part of the 75K, & loooooopholes.

none of the two changes affected the shooters.

 

[playtime]

haaaaaaaaaaaaa..................... i am a female & my husband was in the Marines, so ya - we gots guns. just not assault weapons, dippity do duh.

A dubious term with a variety of subjective meanings.

.

m'k... those that take high velocity ammo that can take multi round mags & drums.

You mean, like these:

Could you clear it up further please. The high vel ammo part. Playtime don't understand how all that works. I don't see threads on those barrels so would you high velocity ammo with those or subsonic?

Playtime has demonstrated that she should not be part of the process of defining which weapons should be banned. She is clueless.

But, to clear it up, every one of those would be considered "high-velocity" whether chambered in .223 or something else, unless they are specifically NOT high-velocity or maybe "subsonic" cartridges. "High-velocity" can range from 1,900 feet per second to over 4,000 feet per second.

Pretty much every single rifle caliber could be considered "high-velocity".

The question I have is, why does velocity matter? .300 Blackout is deadly as FUCK in the AR system and it is subsonic.

uh-huh. .223 ammo was used to kill them thar 'varmints' at sandy hook.... & parkland... & the orlando nightclub.................. it's not just the bullets - like i said it's the multi round mags & drums as well. they were all turned into swiss cheese in mere seconds & those bullets don't enter & exit in a relative 'straight line'... the dude that invented the AR-15 didn't want it for public consumption.

 

[playtime]

 

[playtime]

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