Take the guns first, due process second.

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    So this is what Trump said. Mike Pence says take ANYTHING that is dangerous. I gotta ask how this squares with Trumps claim to love the 2nd amendment and his promise to protect it, yet here he is trying to remove it, as well as the 4th amendment.



    So I ask you die hard trumpkins, y'all good with this?
     
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    Crixus, read up a bit on the ERPO ("Red Flags") laws and how they really work. A judge signs off on that initial confiscation of the guns, too. It is how emergencies are responded to.
     
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    Yeah, like I am going out and vote for a millionaire socialist like Bernie who wants to give everything free except his books? Dont you see the hypocrisy? Nope, not with liberal thinking.

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    one of the first things trump did when he got the keys to the white house:

    Trump blames 'mental illness' for shootings, but rolled back Obama regulation on gun sales
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    Christopher Wilson
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    Yahoo NewsAugust 5, 2019

    In the wake of this weekend’s mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, President Trump was quick to point to mental illness as a cause, echoing a Republican talking point that emerged in interviews and social media posts on Sunday.

    “Mental illness and hatred pull the trigger, not the gun,” said Trump in a speech Monday morning from the White House. He said the country “must make sure that those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety do not have access to firearms, and that, if they do, those firearms can be taken through rapid due process.”

    But in his first full month in office, Trump signed a bill rolling back an Obama-era regulation that would have made it more difficult for people with mental illnesses to purchase firearms. The rule would have used Social Security records to add about 75,000 names to the database used in background checks of gun buyers (from licensed firearms dealers). People receiving supplemental-income support for mental disability and those found unfit to handle their own financial affairs would have been precluded from purchasing firearms. While the rule went on the books just before Trump took office in January 2017, compliance was not mandatory until December 2017.
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    Trump blames 'mental illness' for shootings, but rolled back Obama regulation on gun sales
     
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    I like Trump for baiting the leftists.

    "Yes, we will have background checks.... if you agree to build a glorious wall and secure the border"

    Of course, keeping an open border is much more important to leftists than disarming Americans. What good comes from disarming if the invasion is stopped?
     
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    Have been. And I don't like them at all.
     
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    Of those 75,000, have any done anything to justify their names being added to a data base of any kind?
     
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    Why?
     
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    I agree with you. I have worked with a lot of people with a "mental health" SSI disability. Most of them are not dangerous in the least. However, those mentally incompetent enough to lose their rights? That's a real high bar in a court of law, and if they can't be trusted to make decisions for themselves, they don't need to be trusted with a decision about who to shoot, either.
     
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    lol
    Obama was clueless on the issue, Gun control to him was never about guns… It was always about control
     
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