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[pbel]

U.S., Israel at odds over Iran nuke program intelligence | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

The White House expressed confidence Friday that American intelligence will know if Iran escalates its nuclear program in a sprint to build an atomic bomb—a day after Israel's defense minister warned that the allies might not know "in time" to prevent it.

"We have eyes, we have visibility into the program," press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at his daily briefing. "We feel confident that we would be able to detect a break-out move by Iran towards the acquisition of a nuclear weapon."

"We believe there continues to be the time and space to pursue this course," Carney said, referring to punishing American and international economic sanctions on the Islamic republic. "It is the best course of action to ensure that Iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon. We take no options off the table, and we consult with our allies all the time about the situation in Iran with regards to this program."

But Carney's professed confidence about the quality of the information regarding Iran's nuclear program, widely seen by American and Israeli officials as an attempt to acquire the ability to build a nuclear weapon, appeared to conflict sharply with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak's just a day earlier.

Barak told Israel Radio that news reports of a new American intelligence assessment that Iran has made surprising progress towards a nuclear weapon makes it "less clear and certain that we will know everything in time about their steady progress toward military nuclear capability."

Israel has warned that it views a nuclear-armed Iran as a threat to its very existence and reserves the right to use military force against Tehran's atomic program. Carney's reference to taking "no options off the table" is diplo-speak for the same thing—but where Israeli officials have been ramping up their public warnings about possible military action, their American counterparts have steadfastly insisted that there is time yet to tighten the economic vise further on Iran in hopes of a diplomatic breakthrough.

 

[Hossfly]

U.S., Israel at odds over Iran nuke program intelligence | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

The White House expressed confidence Friday that American intelligence will know if Iran escalates its nuclear program in a sprint to build an atomic bomb—a day after Israel's defense minister warned that the allies might not know "in time" to prevent it.

"We have eyes, we have visibility into the program," press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at his daily briefing. "We feel confident that we would be able to detect a break-out move by Iran towards the acquisition of a nuclear weapon."

"We believe there continues to be the time and space to pursue this course," Carney said, referring to punishing American and international economic sanctions on the Islamic republic. "It is the best course of action to ensure that Iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon. We take no options off the table, and we consult with our allies all the time about the situation in Iran with regards to this program."

But Carney's professed confidence about the quality of the information regarding Iran's nuclear program, widely seen by American and Israeli officials as an attempt to acquire the ability to build a nuclear weapon, appeared to conflict sharply with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak's just a day earlier.

Barak told Israel Radio that news reports of a new American intelligence assessment that Iran has made surprising progress towards a nuclear weapon makes it "less clear and certain that we will know everything in time about their steady progress toward military nuclear capability."

Israel has warned that it views a nuclear-armed Iran as a threat to its very existence and reserves the right to use military force against Tehran's atomic program. Carney's reference to taking "no options off the table" is diplo-speak for the same thing—but where Israeli officials have been ramping up their public warnings about possible military action, their American counterparts have steadfastly insisted that there is time yet to tighten the economic vise further on Iran in hopes of a diplomatic breakthrough.

Germany was in shambles and Hitler was still building sophisticated rockets, jet planes and had almost completed the atomic bomb by wars end. A little more time would have seen his dreams fulfilled. Iran can not have the bomb as they would use it on Tel Aviv. Hence the phrase, "Never Again." And that's a fact, Jack.

 

[Hossfly]

U.S., Israel at odds over Iran nuke program intelligence | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

The White House expressed confidence Friday that American intelligence will know if Iran escalates its nuclear program in a sprint to build an atomic bomb—a day after Israel's defense minister warned that the allies might not know "in time" to prevent it.

"We have eyes, we have visibility into the program," press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at his daily briefing. "We feel confident that we would be able to detect a break-out move by Iran towards the acquisition of a nuclear weapon."

"We believe there continues to be the time and space to pursue this course," Carney said, referring to punishing American and international economic sanctions on the Islamic republic. "It is the best course of action to ensure that Iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon. We take no options off the table, and we consult with our allies all the time about the situation in Iran with regards to this program."

But Carney's professed confidence about the quality of the information regarding Iran's nuclear program, widely seen by American and Israeli officials as an attempt to acquire the ability to build a nuclear weapon, appeared to conflict sharply with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak's just a day earlier.

Barak told Israel Radio that news reports of a new American intelligence assessment that Iran has made surprising progress towards a nuclear weapon makes it "less clear and certain that we will know everything in time about their steady progress toward military nuclear capability."

Israel has warned that it views a nuclear-armed Iran as a threat to its very existence and reserves the right to use military force against Tehran's atomic program. Carney's reference to taking "no options off the table" is diplo-speak for the same thing—but where Israeli officials have been ramping up their public warnings about possible military action, their American counterparts have steadfastly insisted that there is time yet to tighten the economic vise further on Iran in hopes of a diplomatic breakthrough.

Germany was in shambles and Hitler was still building sophisticated rockets, jet planes and had almost completed the atomic bomb by wars end. A little more time would have seen his dreams fulfilled. Iran can not have the bomb as they would use it on Tel Aviv. Hence the phrase, "Never Again." And that's a fact, Jack.

A little background on what a quick strike by the IAF will accomplish.


Iranian president Mahmud Ahmadinejad calls President Obama and tells him, "Barack, I had a wonderful dream last night. I could see America , the whole beautiful country, and on each house I saw a banner."

"What did it say on the banners?" Obama asks.

Mahmud replies, "UNITED STATES OF IRAN."

Obama says, "You know, Mahmud, I am really happy you called, because believe it or not, last night I had a similar dream. I could see all of Tehran , and it was more beautiful than ever, and on each house flew an enormous banner."

"What did it say on the banners?" Mahmud asks.

Obama replies, "I don't know. I can't read Hebrew."

 

[MrAlwaysRight]

Germany was in shambles and Hitler was still building sophisticated rockets, jet planes and had almost completed the atomic bomb by wars end. A little more time would have seen his dreams fulfilled. Iran can not have the bomb as they would use it on Tel Aviv. Hence the phrase, "Never Again." And that's a fact, Jack.

Gotta keep that Hitler thang going, eh?

Iran has a right to defend itself, doesn't it?

Iran has signed the NPT hasn't it?

Iran participates with the IAEA, doesn't it?

Israel has nuclear (and chemical and biological) WMDs, doesn't it?

Israel has been gunning for Iran, hasn't it?

Soooo, by the Israeli "logic" Iran should have "pre-emptively struck" Israel decades ago.

 

[Hossfly]

Germany was in shambles and Hitler was still building sophisticated rockets, jet planes and had almost completed the atomic bomb by wars end. A little more time would have seen his dreams fulfilled. Iran can not have the bomb as they would use it on Tel Aviv. Hence the phrase, "Never Again." And that's a fact, Jack.

Gotta keep that Hitler thang going, eh?

Iran has a right to defend itself, doesn't it?

Iran has signed the NPT hasn't it?

Iran participates with the IAEA, doesn't it?

Israel has nuclear (and chemical and biological) WMDs, doesn't it?

Israel has been gunning for Iran, hasn't it?

Soooo, by the Israeli "logic" Iran should have "pre-emptively struck" Israel decades ago.

It's not about Hitler, Mahmoud. It's about what's not going to happen.

 

[pbel]

Germany was in shambles and Hitler was still building sophisticated rockets, jet planes and had almost completed the atomic bomb by wars end. A little more time would have seen his dreams fulfilled. Iran can not have the bomb as they would use it on Tel Aviv. Hence the phrase, "Never Again." And that's a fact, Jack.

Gotta keep that Hitler thang going, eh?

Iran has a right to defend itself, doesn't it?

Iran has signed the NPT hasn't it?

Iran participates with the IAEA, doesn't it?

Israel has nuclear (and chemical and biological) WMDs, doesn't it?

Israel has been gunning for Iran, hasn't it?

Soooo, by the Israeli "logic" Iran should have "pre-emptively struck" Israel decades ago.

It's not about Hitler, Mahmoud. It's about what's not going to happen.

I thought you good folk in by god west virgini were nice bible thumpers waiting for Armaggedon in Israel to convert d'em Jews for Jesus?

 

[Hossfly]

Gotta keep that Hitler thang going, eh?

Iran has a right to defend itself, doesn't it?

Iran has signed the NPT hasn't it?

Iran participates with the IAEA, doesn't it?

Israel has nuclear (and chemical and biological) WMDs, doesn't it?

Israel has been gunning for Iran, hasn't it?

Soooo, by the Israeli "logic" Iran should have "pre-emptively struck" Israel decades ago.

It's not about Hitler, Mahmoud. It's about what's not going to happen.

I thought you good folk in by god west virgini were nice bible thumpers waiting for Armaggedon in Israel to convert d'em Jews for Jesus?

Have you read my thread about Bnei Menashe?

 

[docmauser1]

"We have eyes, we have visibility into the program," press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at his daily briefing. "We feel confident that we would be able to detect a break-out move by Iran towards the acquisition of a nuclear weapon."

Plain english - the White house doesn't have a clue. Pathetic.

 

[pbel]

"We have eyes, we have visibility into the program," press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at his daily briefing. "We feel confident that we would be able to detect a break-out move by Iran towards the acquisition of a nuclear weapon."

Plain english - the White house doesn't have a clue. Pathetic.

If Israel is so concerned about Iran, why doesn't it attack?

 

[Roudy]

"We have eyes, we have visibility into the program," press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at his daily briefing. "We feel confident that we would be able to detect a break-out move by Iran towards the acquisition of a nuclear weapon."

Plain english - the White house doesn't have a clue. Pathetic.

If Israel is so concerned about Iran, why doesn't it attack?

Patience my donkey, patience.

 

[pbel]

Plain english - the White house doesn't have a clue. Pathetic.

If Israel is so concerned about Iran, why doesn't it attack?

Patience my donkey, patience.

Chicken my Camel Chicken...waiting for US cover or to do the actual fighting like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan for Israel's sins...

Cluck cluck cluck, the IDF without American support and weapons...

 

[docmauser1]

"We have eyes, we have visibility into the program," press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at his daily briefing. "We feel confident that we would be able to detect a break-out move by Iran towards the acquisition of a nuclear weapon."

Plain english - the White house doesn't have a clue. Pathetic.

If Israel is so concerned about Iran, why doesn't it attack?

It's, probably, concerned about Obama's ears growing bigger.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Ferd says blow `em back to the Stone Age...

Ahmadinejad: 'Tumor' of Israel soon to be destroyed
Fri, Aug 17, 2012 - 'In the new Middle East there will be no trace of the Americans and Zionists'

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told an annual anti-Israel protest in Tehran on Friday that the Jewish state was a "cancerous tumour" that will soon be excised, drawing Western rebukes. Washington said Ahmadinejad's statements were "reprehensible", while Paris viewed them as "outrageous." Ahmadinejad's diatribe against Israel in his Quds (Jerusalem) Day address was the latest in a long line to have drawn criticism from Western governments. "The Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumour," he said. "The nations of the region will soon finish off the usurper Zionists in the Palestinian land.... A new Middle East will definitely be formed. With the grace of God and help of the nations, in the new Middle East there will be no trace of the Americans and Zionists," he said.

The diatribe took place amid heightened tensions between Israel and Iran over Tehran's controversial nuclear programme. The Jewish state has in recent weeks intensified its threats to possibly bomb Iran's nuclear facilities to prevent it having the capability to produce atomic weapons. Iran, which is suffering under severe Western sanctions, denies its nuclear programme is anything but peaceful. Its military has warned it will destroy Israel if it attacks. "They (the Israelis) know very well they don't have the ability" to successfully attack Iran, foreign ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast was quoted as saying by the ISNA news agency. "If they make a mistake, our nation's reaction will lead to the end of the Zionist regime," he said.

State television showed crowds marching under blazing sunshine in Tehran and other Iranian cities to mark Quds Days, an annual commemoration launched by the founder of the Islamic republic, the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, just after the 1979 revolution that brought him to power. Demonstrators held up Palestinian flags and pictures of Khomeini's successor as Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and banners reading "Death to Israel" and "Death to America." The head of Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guards, General Mohammad Ali Jafari, told the Fars news agency as he attended the Tehran rally that "the Iranian nation has always been at the forefront of the (regional anti-Israeli) resistance in showing its animosity with Israel." He added that Iran intended to maintain that virulent stance. Ahmadinejad, in his speech, claimed that "Zionists" triggered World Wars I and II, and had "taken control over world affairs since the moment they became dominant over the US government."

US National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told AFP that Ahmadinejad's comments were "hateful and divisive." "We strongly condemn the latest series of offensive and reprehensible comments by senior Iranian officials that are aimed at Israel," Vietor said. "The entire international community should condemn this hateful and divisive rhetoric." French deputy foreign ministry spokesman Vincent Floreani hit out at the "latest provocations" from the Iranian president. "We firmly condemn these outrageous and totally unacceptable statements and we remind (Iran) that we would never allow the right of Israel to live in peace to be called into question," he said. Ahmadinejad's past broadsides against the Jewish state, and his denial that the Holocaust occurred, have earned him opprobrium from Western and other nations, and walkouts during his addresses to the UN General Assembly. Israel has been employing its own invective against Iran and its leaders, invoking the image of Hitler and the Nazis on the eve of World War II and accusing Tehran of being bent on Israeli genocide.

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'Iran strike worthwhile, even to delay nuke program'
8/16/2012 - Netanyahu backs hit even if Israel can't completely destroy nuclear program

Setting Iran’s nuclear plans back a few years to buy time for regime change or other unforeseen developments would be good in its own right, even if Israel cannot completely take out Iran’s nuclear program, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said recently, The Jerusalem Post has learned. Netanyahu, in private meetings, repeated a number of times that before Israel’s 1981 attack on Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor, the Mossad and Military Intelligence were opposed because they thought the best that could be done was to delay the program for a couple of years. They also argued at the time, Netanyahu said, that nothing would be solved in the long term, and that the operational risks were too high.

The prime minister, according to government sources, said that taking action to set back the program is legitimate because the delay could give birth to numerous unforeseen developments. For instance, he has said, such an attack – one that demonstrates the vulnerability of the regime – could hasten regime change inside Iran. According to government sources, Ambassador to the US Michael Oren was reflecting Netanyahu’s thinking when he said on Wednesday at a public forum in Washington that Israel would be willing to hit Iran if it only set back – and did not destroy – its “One, two, three, four years are a long time in the Middle East – look what’s happened in the last year,” Oren said.

Among the arguments used most against a solo Israeli attack, indeed an argument voiced on Tuesday by Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, is that an Israeli attack could not take out the Iranian program. Many also argue that it would rally the Iranian population around an unpopular regime. Netanyahu has also discounted the second part of that argument in recent meetings, saying that the Israeli rescue raid on Entebbe in 1976 did not bring the Ugandan public to rally around its dictator Idi Amin, but rather strengthened the opposition fighting him by showing his weakness.

In addition to Mossad and IDF Intelligence opposition, President Shimon Peres, then a Labor MK, also opposed the attack on the Iraqi reactor in 1981. He stood by his opposition during a Channel 2 interview on Thursday marking his 89th birthday, saying that the Iraqi reactor that was destroyed was not able to produce nuclear weapons. He said that after the Israeli bombing, the Iraqis moved to centrifuges to enrich uranium, and that were it not for the US invasion in 2003, they would have been farther along with the centrifuges than the Iranians. Peres said that the world realized the danger posed by a nuclear Iran, and that Israel was not in this battle alone. Asked whether he was convinced that US President Barack Obama would take action to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons, Peres replied, “I am convinced that this is an American interest, and I am sure that he sees the American interest and he isn’t saying this just to keep us happy. I have no doubt about it, after having had talks with him.”

More 'Iran strike worthwhile, even to ... JPost - Diplomacy & Politics

 

[Sundowner47]

The Israeli Jews are cowards...the ruthless IDF is all piss and vinegar when terrorizing small Arab children, and picking off women with IDF snipers, but when confronted with real soldiers, and any minor level of weapons -parity the Jews would prefer that American servicemen---and women---do the wet-work---and the dying. Americans are finally waking up to the Jewish occupation of their government...in the midst of an economic depression they won't sit still for a proxy-war on behalf of the Jew/Nazi state of Ishmael...

 

[Lipush]

The Israeli Jews are cowards...the ruthless IDF is all piss and vinegar when terrorizing small Arab children, and picking off women with IDF snipers, but when confronted with real soldiers, and any minor level of weapons -parity the Jews would prefer that American servicemen---and women---do the wet-work---and the dying. Americans are finally waking up to the Jewish occupation of their government...in the midst of an economic depression they won't sit still for a proxy-war on behalf of the Jew/Nazi state of Ishmael...

The Arabs are the Ishmaelities.

You're not very clever, are you

 

[Roudy]

Plain english - the White house doesn't have a clue. Pathetic.

If Israel is so concerned about Iran, why doesn't it attack?

It's, probably, concerned about Obama's ears growing bigger.

Well, his nose has certainly been getting longer.

 

[Roudy]

If Israel is so concerned about Iran, why doesn't it attack?

Patience my donkey, patience.

Chicken my Camel Chicken...waiting for US cover or to do the actual fighting like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan for Israel's sins...

Cluck cluck cluck, the IDF without American support and weapons...

But the IDF kicked Arab ass over and over and in groups up to 1967, without one American weapon or financial assistance from USA. In other words all of Israel's major wars were fought without US help It was only after 1967 that the US realized that Arabs had become client states of the USSR that it decided to counter it as a matter of US national security.

Keep braying douchebag: Hee haw...hee haw!

 

[pbel]

Patience my donkey, patience.

Chicken my Camel Chicken...waiting for US cover or to do the actual fighting like we did in Iraq and Afghanistan for Israel's sins...

Cluck cluck cluck, the IDF without American support and weapons...

But the IDF kicked Arab ass over and over and in groups up to 1967, without one American weapon or financial assistance from USA. In other words all of Israel's major wars were fought without US help It was only after 1967 that the US realized that Arabs had become client states of the USSR that it decided to counter it as a matter of US national security.

Keep braying douchebag: Hee haw...hee haw!

Pedo, like your brethren
Sprayit AKA the "Sniffer," you never tell the whole truth and conniving is your bible:In Israel: http://www.sixdaywar.org/content/usa.asp
The Embattled Ally, Nadav Safran notes that Egyptian involvement in the Yemen war also impacted relations with the Americans vis-a-vis the question of Israel. As Egypt built up its military capabilities during the Yemen war, the Israelis approached the Americans for weapons and diplomatic assistance. U.S. military aid to Israel had been negligible, but in 1963 the Americans approved the transfer of Hawk surface-to-air missiles to Israel and recommitted to Israel’s security and the need to maintain a regional balance of power.


Now as far as Iran is concerned: fine. I have no problem with an attack on Iran...its is the enemy of the Sunni Muslims who want the peace that Israel has rejected over and over.

But remember, taking out Iran, the Sunnis mortal enemies, you make them stronger in their War of attrition with Israel...

Stay tuned....Cluck Cluck!

 

[docmauser1]

If Israel is so concerned about Iran, why doesn't it attack?

It's, probably, concerned about Obama's ears growing bigger.

Well, his nose has certainly been getting longer.

Yeah.

 

[Sundowner47]

The Israeli Jews are cowards...the ruthless IDF is all piss and vinegar when terrorizing small Arab children, and picking off women with IDF snipers, but when confronted with real soldiers, and any minor level of weapons -parity the Jews would prefer that American servicemen---and women---do the wet-work---and the dying. Americans are finally waking up to the Jewish occupation of their government...in the midst of an economic depression they won't sit still for a proxy-war on behalf of the Jew/Nazi state of Ishmael...

The Arabs are the Ishmaelities.

You're not very clever, are you

---TRY LEARNING SOMETHING NEW STUPID:




Ishmael
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Ishmael (disambiguation).
Ishmael

A depiction of Hagar and Ishmael in the desert by François-Joseph Navez
Prophet, Patriarch, Father of the Arabs, Constructor of the Kaaba, Apostle to Arabia
Born Canaan
Died Arabia
Honored in Islam
Judaism
Christianity
Influences Abraham
Influenced All of his descendants
Ishmael (Hebrew: יִשְׁמָעֵאל, Modern Yishma'el Tiberian Yišmāʻēl ISO 259-3 Yišmaˁel; Greek: Ισμαήλ Ismaēl; Latin: Ismael; Arabic: إسماعيل* ʾIsmāʿīl) is a figure in the Hebrew Bible and the Qur'an, and was Abraham's first son according to Jews, Christians and Muslims. Ishmael was born of Abraham's marriage to Sarah's handmaiden Hagar (Genesis 16:3). According to the Genesis account, he died at the age of 137 (Genesis 25:17).[1]