T won Clinton by less than 1 point in WI. Gerrymandering

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    At heart of landmark Supreme Court case: a gerrymandered map that has helped lock in huge legislative majorities for Wisconsin GOP



    There have now been three big election cycles since the current Wisconsin map took effect, featuring three very different outcomes at the top of the ticket.

    • In 2012, President Barack Obama, a Democrat, carried the state by 7 points.
    • In 2014, Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, carried the state by 6 points.
    • And in 2016, the two parties finished in a virtual tie for president, with Republican Donald Trump beating Democrat Hillary Clinton by less than a point.
    But these partisan shifts had little effect on the battle for the 99-seat state Assembly, where the GOP’s margin of control has averaged more than 20 seats under the lopsided map Republicans drew in 2011.

    All the numbers show that the GOP’s advantage is real, it is large and it is much bigger than it

    was under the previous map.

    At heart of landmark Supreme Court case: a gerrymandered map that has helped lock in huge legislative majorities for Wisconsin GOP

    Perhaps the Dem should get all the voting info , and we will find out T didn't really win WI or MI.
     
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    Wow .. sounds like a real bottle rocket there Penelope...

    no sex, no violence, no russians and no ugly wrinkled faces.
     
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    perhaps you should get used to the fact that D J Trump is the president
     
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    No
     
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    Remember you won by a gray hair, so don't say Americans want this or Americans voted for T, because most of us did not and frankly we get sick of hearing it. Also you got help by the Russians, and you have the money on your side, and voter suppression and gerrymandering in the GOP states. Remember all that.
     
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    the only thing I won was the ability to say that Hillary is NOT our president.

    "Help from the Russians"

    "voter suppression"

    "Gerrymandering"

    Great talking points.

    Russians?

    the DNC did more to help Trump than the Republicans.

    Voter suppression?

    the annual boogieman.

    Gerrymandering?

    Both sides do it, and have for decades.

    More money?

    Seriously suggest you take a look at what Hilary spent, vs Trump.

    Hillary has been involved in presidential elections for nearly 50 years, and she didn't know the Electoral vote is what decides the presidency?

    That, my little myna bird, is STUPIDITY
     
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    You had lots of big money back T, Vets, NRA, Prisons, Koch brothers, Hannity, Rush , Beck, (3 large mouth bass) Laura Ingraham the biggest large mouth bass , Russian, WikiLeaks, pro Israel jews , and Evans. Not to mention Breibart , and Fox, and voter suppression. All the elites who want a tax cut and cut of regulations.

    In Detroit for the recount that started , most paper ballots were unreadable. The machines also backed up in Detroit.
     
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    and even more backing Hillary.

    I'm guessing this is yet another topic you know squat about.
     
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    Gerrymandering, it was great when Dems were winning, but now they hate it
     
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    Maybe this will help

    (Darker bar represents outside money; lighter bar represents candidate committee money)

    [​IMG] Hillary Clinton (D)
    CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $563,756,928


    OUTSIDE MONEY: $231,118,680


    [​IMG] Gary Johnson (L)
    CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $11,983,980


    OUTSIDE MONEY: $1,386,971


    [​IMG] Evan McMullin (I)
    CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $1,634,822


    OUTSIDE MONEY: $0


    [​IMG] Jill Stein (3)
    CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $3,713,170


    OUTSIDE MONEY: $0


    [​IMG] Donald Trump (R) WINNER
    CANDIDATE COMMITTEE MONEY: $333,127,164


    OUTSIDE MONEY: $75,269,043

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/
     
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