Swing states

[Jarlaxle]

Actually, they do.

The only thing between Obama getting 300+ electoral votes is Florida. I think he'll win Florida. You're not looking at electoral votes if you think this is that close. You're really not looking at the EVs if you think Romney is in the 300 vote range. The OP's contention that Romney will win MI, PA, and WI is amusing.

There is no way Obama takes FL.

He won it 4 years ago, with PA, MI, OH, and WI. Yet somehow, you think he won't win any of them this time around--event though the Romney campaign has basically pulled out of PA and WI and has token presence now in WI.

Obama doesn't need FL to win. He needs it to get 300+ unless he sweeps all of the other swing states which won't happen either.

I think he'll win it. Momentum is back on his side and the longer it goes on, the more more the Governor is being exposed for his pander-a-thon.

He was running against Grandpa Munster last time. He was up against maybe the worst candidate in the last 50 years!

 

[Zander]

My predictions:

Colorado -Romney
Florida- Romney
Iowa- Romney
Michigan- Obidobi
Nevada- Obidobi
New Hampshire - Romney
North Carolina- Romney
Ohio- Romney
Pennsylvania- Obidobi
Virginia- Romney
Wisconsin- Romney

300+ Electoral Votes for Romney.

Senate- Republicans pick up 3 seats and gain control - Harry Reid cries like a bitch
House - Reps retains control - Pelosi steps down as Minority leader

Governorships - Reps win 8 of 11 - State Gerrymandering assures Republican dominance for decades.

As a bonus, Obama will get 47% of the vote - validating Romney's comments earlier this year.

Obama had his chance. He said all along that if he couldn't fix the economy "it will be a one term proposition". Well, he didn't get the job done. Now he will usurp Jimmy Carter as the worst of the modern presidents.

I don't really thing Obama wants to win a second term. Winning would mean he would forever lose his "victim" status.....

 

[candycorn]

On the radio today, I heard a discussion that, astoundingly, Pennsylvania is in play; as of Saturday, polls of likely voters had Obama ahead, but were within the margin of error. Both sides are putting out big bucks for campaigning in PA this week.

Barack's trashing of the coal industry might end up costing him the election.

Source?

Romney pulled out of PA about a month and a half ago. MI too. PACs may be advertising over there but Romney's campaign in MI and PA can only be found in one place; on the back of a milk carton. It's missing.

Look at CNN's campaign explorer site for the gory details.

 

[candycorn]

There is no way Obama takes FL.

He won it 4 years ago, with PA, MI, OH, and WI. Yet somehow, you think he won't win any of them this time around--event though the Romney campaign has basically pulled out of PA and WI and has token presence now in WI.

Obama doesn't need FL to win. He needs it to get 300+ unless he sweeps all of the other swing states which won't happen either.

I think he'll win it. Momentum is back on his side and the longer it goes on, the more more the Governor is being exposed for his pander-a-thon.

He was running against Grandpa Munster last time. He was up against maybe the worst candidate in the last 50 years!

Munster last time, the worst candidate in the last 50 years this time.

Watch, learn, grieve.

 

[candycorn]

Actually, they do.

The only thing between Obama getting 300+ electoral votes is Florida. I think he'll win Florida. You're not looking at electoral votes if you think this is that close. You're really not looking at the EVs if you think Romney is in the 300 vote range. The OP's contention that Romney will win MI, PA, and WI is amusing.

There is no way Obama takes FL.

Agreed.

But Obama doesn’t need Florida.

Or North Carolina

Or Virginia.

Or Colorado

Or even New Hampshire

He needs only Ohio – where he’s ahead; and Iowa – where he’s ahead.

Or Ohio and Nevada, the latter where he’s ahead as well.

The problem for Romney has always been EC math: just California, Illinois, and New York alone get the president a third of the way there. It gives Obama more routes to 270, more states he doesn’t need or can lose.

Romney simply doesn’t have that luxury; even if Romney wins all the states he’s supposed to win, and some he isn’t, he still doesn’t get to 270.

Obama has a good shot in Florida. Polls are close there. It's a tough road but he has a better shot in Florida than Romney has in Ohio.

 

[mex]

NC will be going to Romney.

hope Amynation's right on PA... if so, it don't matter what happens in the Buckeye.

Penn. Nev, and Wisconsin are going Obama...stay tuned

Penn and Nev should go obam. The fact that it's close means obam pretty much sucks.

we;ll see about wisky..

 

[mex]

There is no way Obama takes FL.

He won it 4 years ago, with PA, MI, OH, and WI. Yet somehow, you think he won't win any of them this time around--event though the Romney campaign has basically pulled out of PA and WI and has token presence now in WI.

Obama doesn't need FL to win. He needs it to get 300+ unless he sweeps all of the other swing states which won't happen either.

I think he'll win it. Momentum is back on his side and the longer it goes on, the more more the Governor is being exposed for his pander-a-thon.

PA and OH tipping Romney is based solely on living in the area, I could see those going Obama as well.

I haven't seen any major polls that suggest Obama is pulling ahead in FL and WI. Today is not 4 years ago. I think voter turn out will be low on both sides ofthe aisle, and between the walker recall and Obamacare, Obama has lost WI and FL.

don't forget the coal miners in PA and OH. there's more of them than auto workers.

 

[Pasco08]

I think Florida will go to Obama

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

My predictions

Colorado -Obama
Florida- Romney
Iowa- Obama
Michigan- Obama
Nevada- Romney
New Hampshire - Romney
North Carolina- Obama
Ohio- Romney
Pennsylvania- Romney
Virginia- Obama
Wisconsin- Romney

I think it will be like this,
Colorado-Obama
Florida-Romney
Michigan-Obama
Nevada-Romney
New Hampshire-Romney
North Carolina-Romney
Ohio-Romney
Pennsylvania-Obama
Virginia-Romney
Wisconsin-Romney

I think this Libya thing is going to be Obamas downfall. If Obama would have come out on September 12, 2012 and said, "Yesterday, our Embassy in Benghazi, Lybia was attacked by terrorist. Four Americans were murdered including our ambassador to that country. We screwed up and were too slow to react and because of that, four Americans are dead. I take full responsibility and I promise you, this will never happen again. We will find those responsible and they will be brought to justice." He wouldn't be falling in the polls and he would be re-elected.

Of course, hard core Republicans would still be calling for his head, but they only account for maybe 25% of those voting. Obama would win this election in a landslide if he would of just told the truth.

1. I'm giving Michigan to Obama, thats *IT*!
2. See who gets it right in 9 days.
3. People in Michigan are way too fucking stupid to know whats going on in this economy.
4. And more than anything this election is about the economy and losing America to socialism.
5. People of Michigan are just too stupid, plain and simple.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[Pasco08]

Sorry bout that,

My predictions

Colorado -Obama
Florida- Romney
Iowa- Obama
Michigan- Obama
Nevada- Romney
New Hampshire - Romney
North Carolina- Obama
Ohio- Romney
Pennsylvania- Romney
Virginia- Obama
Wisconsin- Romney

I think it will be like this,
Colorado-Obama
Florida-Romney
Michigan-Obama
Nevada-Romney
New Hampshire-Romney
North Carolina-Romney
Ohio-Romney
Pennsylvania-Obama
Virginia-Romney
Wisconsin-Romney

I think this Libya thing is going to be Obamas downfall. If Obama would have come out on September 12, 2012 and said, "Yesterday, our Embassy in Benghazi, Lybia was attacked by terrorist. Four Americans were murdered including our ambassador to that country. We screwed up and were too slow to react and because of that, four Americans are dead. I take full responsibility and I promise you, this will never happen again. We will find those responsible and they will be brought to justice." He wouldn't be falling in the polls and he would be re-elected.

Of course, hard core Republicans would still be calling for his head, but they only account for maybe 25% of those voting. Obama would win this election in a landslide if he would of just told the truth.

1. I'm giving Michigan to Obama, thats *IT*!
2. See who gets it right in 9 days.
3. People in Michigan are way too fucking stupid to know whats going on in this economy.
4. And more than anything this election is about the economy and losing America to socialism.
5. People of Michigan are just too stupid, plain and simple.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Yet Detroit is one of the hardest hit cities in the country from the economy turndown?

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

Sorry bout that,

I think it will be like this,
Colorado-Obama
Florida-Romney
Michigan-Obama
Nevada-Romney
New Hampshire-Romney
North Carolina-Romney
Ohio-Romney
Pennsylvania-Obama
Virginia-Romney
Wisconsin-Romney

I think this Libya thing is going to be Obamas downfall. If Obama would have come out on September 12, 2012 and said, "Yesterday, our Embassy in Benghazi, Lybia was attacked by terrorist. Four Americans were murdered including our ambassador to that country. We screwed up and were too slow to react and because of that, four Americans are dead. I take full responsibility and I promise you, this will never happen again. We will find those responsible and they will be brought to justice." He wouldn't be falling in the polls and he would be re-elected.

Of course, hard core Republicans would still be calling for his head, but they only account for maybe 25% of those voting. Obama would win this election in a landslide if he would of just told the truth.

1. I'm giving Michigan to Obama, thats *IT*!
2. See who gets it right in 9 days.
3. People in Michigan are way too fucking stupid to know whats going on in this economy.
4. And more than anything this election is about the economy and losing America to socialism.
5. People of Michigan are just too stupid, plain and simple.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Yet Detroit is one of the hardest hit cities in the country from the economy turndown?

1. Nope, they have been bought with the bailout, any idiot should be able to figure that out.
2. Michigan is so far deep up in Obamas ass it isn't even funny!
3. But even though, the pain isn't over for Detroit, or Michigan, far from, they will lose so much more in the following months.
4. I predict the auto industry under Obamas tutelage will slide further away from their present slippery stone they have a footing on.
5. Ofcourse Romney will have a better idea on how to correct this problem.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[MarcATL]

He won it 4 years ago, with PA, MI, OH, and WI. Yet somehow, you think he won't win any of them this time around--event though the Romney campaign has basically pulled out of PA and WI and has token presence now in WI.

Obama doesn't need FL to win. He needs it to get 300+ unless he sweeps all of the other swing states which won't happen either.

I think he'll win it. Momentum is back on his side and the longer it goes on, the more more the Governor is being exposed for his pander-a-thon.

PA and OH tipping Romney is based solely on living in the area, I could see those going Obama as well.

I haven't seen any major polls that suggest Obama is pulling ahead in FL and WI. Today is not 4 years ago. I think voter turn out will be low on both sides ofthe aisle, and between the walker recall and Obamacare, Obama has lost WI and FL.

Florida I'll give you; it's a tough road to hoe for the Obama Campaign. I'm confident that there is undersampling of Democrats without home phones in Florida. I'm also confident that Romney/Ryan's medicare overhaul will be their undoing in Florida.

As for Wisconsin, you should take an interest in it:

Wisconsin '12 Presidential General Election Poll - Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 2012 Election - POLITICO.com

Even Rasmussen has Obama ahead.

Keep in mind, Politico isn't polling...it's showing polls from several different sources. Take a look.

Just for the record...

Here is PA:

Pennsylvania '12 Presidential General Election Poll - Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 2012 Election - POLITICO.com

Romney isn't in shouting distance of Obama there.

Do I need to show you Michigan? Oh what the hell..

Michigan '12 Presidential General Election Poll - Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 2012 Election - POLITICO.com


If you're not aware of these multiple polls covering 3 states ...I don't know what to tell you.


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Lets look at Florida:

Florida '12 Presidential General Election Poll - Monday, October 29, 2012 - 2012 Election - POLITICO.com

Pretty evenly split although Romney is ahead in recent polling more often than not.

Obama gots it in the bag.

Not only is there lots of wishful thinking by these RWers, but lots of fantastical mental summersaults too.

 

[candycorn]

PA and OH tipping Romney is based solely on living in the area, I could see those going Obama as well.

I haven't seen any major polls that suggest Obama is pulling ahead in FL and WI. Today is not 4 years ago. I think voter turn out will be low on both sides ofthe aisle, and between the walker recall and Obamacare, Obama has lost WI and FL.

Florida I'll give you; it's a tough road to hoe for the Obama Campaign. I'm confident that there is undersampling of Democrats without home phones in Florida. I'm also confident that Romney/Ryan's medicare overhaul will be their undoing in Florida.

As for Wisconsin, you should take an interest in it:

Wisconsin '12 Presidential General Election Poll - Thursday, October 25, 2012 - 2012 Election - POLITICO.com

Even Rasmussen has Obama ahead.

Keep in mind, Politico isn't polling...it's showing polls from several different sources. Take a look.

Just for the record...

Here is PA:

Pennsylvania '12 Presidential General Election Poll - Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 2012 Election - POLITICO.com

Romney isn't in shouting distance of Obama there.

Do I need to show you Michigan? Oh what the hell..

Michigan '12 Presidential General Election Poll - Wednesday, October 17, 2012 - 2012 Election - POLITICO.com


If you're not aware of these multiple polls covering 3 states ...I don't know what to tell you.


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Lets look at Florida:

Florida '12 Presidential General Election Poll - Monday, October 29, 2012 - 2012 Election - POLITICO.com

Pretty evenly split although Romney is ahead in recent polling more often than not.

Obama gots it in the bag.

Not only is there lots of wishful thinking by these RWers, but lots of fantastical mental summersaults too.

You're right. It's not how many spikes you get in volleyball, it's how many kills you make. Nationwide tracking polls are nice but they're meaningless in the Presidential election which is decided in 51 contests across the nation. The GOP seems fixated on the spikes; not the kills. Otherwise, you'd see a bunch of colorful maps showing how much they are ahead.

 

[candycorn]

He won it 4 years ago, with PA, MI, OH, and WI. Yet somehow, you think he won't win any of them this time around--event though the Romney campaign has basically pulled out of PA and WI and has token presence now in WI.

Obama doesn't need FL to win. He needs it to get 300+ unless he sweeps all of the other swing states which won't happen either.

I think he'll win it. Momentum is back on his side and the longer it goes on, the more more the Governor is being exposed for his pander-a-thon.

PA and OH tipping Romney is based solely on living in the area, I could see those going Obama as well.

I haven't seen any major polls that suggest Obama is pulling ahead in FL and WI. Today is not 4 years ago. I think voter turn out will be low on both sides ofthe aisle, and between the walker recall and Obamacare, Obama has lost WI and FL.

don't forget the coal miners in PA and OH. there's more of them than auto workers.

Too bad most are unionized and will likely vote for Obama.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. I'm going to look like the fucking genius when all the votes are counted.
2. While you fuckers wonder what just happened.
3. Obama is getting his *ASS* thrown out of office in 9 days only!!!!


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[MarcATL]

Frank Luntz is on Alan Colmes radio show right now saying that he doesn't see how Romney will win. He just said that he sees Romney winning the popular vote but not the election.

 

[Listening]

Frank Luntz is on Alan Colmes radio show right now saying that he doesn't see how Romney will win. He just said that he sees Romney winning the popular vote but not the election.

The left pisses at the very mention of his name when he does his target audience review.

But, let him say Obama is going to win....and, well, hey......he's worth quoting.

 

[Sherry]

Frank Luntz is on Alan Colmes radio show right now saying that he doesn't see how Romney will win. He just said that he sees Romney winning the popular vote but not the election.

The left pisses at the very mention of his name when he does his target audience review.

But, let him say Obama is going to win....and, well, hey......he's worth quoting.

Dear Marc is intentionally misleading the reader...Luntz believes that if the election were held today, that Romney would win the popular vote, but not be assured of winning in the electoral college. However, he clearly believes that the momentum continues to be in Romney's favor.

Barack Obama will lose to Mitt Romney for President says Frank Luntz | The Sun |Features

 

[candycorn]

Frank Luntz is on Alan Colmes radio show right now saying that he doesn't see how Romney will win. He just said that he sees Romney winning the popular vote but not the election.

Frankly Frank is right

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. Its all up to the Independents.
2. And they are sick of Obama.
3. Just like everyone else is.
4. Romney has this election.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas