Sustainable engergy independence?

[xÞx]

We have fossil fuel resources that'll last thousands of years?

source?

Where is your source? The source for oil is the ground.

So you don't have a source to back your claims.


Noted.

The sun's going to stop?

Yep, the sun is going to stop, every night the sun stops, not to mention rainy days.

Really? and here I thought there was just a planet or clouds blocking it

Why do the idiots simply post what they think without researching what they are told to think.

Fools.

 

[mdn2000]

We have fossil fuel resources that'll last thousands of years?

source?

Where is your source? The source for oil is the ground.

So you don't have a source to back your claims.


Noted.

The sun's going to stop?



Really? and here I thought there was just a planet or clouds blocking it

Why do the idiots simply post what they think without researching what they are told to think.

Fools.

The sun stops shining every night and on cloudy days, what are you going to do for energy those days?

Source, why do I have to go first, where is your source disproving that we have thousands of years of fossil energy stored in the earth.

 

[Old Rocks]

Our use of fossil fuel has not been linear, it has been an ever steepening curve. And that use is changing the atmosphere and oceans in ways that are unfavorable to the planets ability to sustain the existance of large numbers of human beings.

The use of alternatives will not make up for our proflagate use of energy, but it will not contribute to the increase of GHGs in the atmosphere.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Hear we go.......We use EVERYTHING at our disposal.....Including drilling but ONLY if the oil co's increase in refining. Nuclear power(NOTHING LIKE TMI) and they produce HYDROGEN as a by-product. Coal liqifaction fuel for our cars. SOLAR which could ALSO give us plug in electric cars w/o stressing our infrastruction. Wind which once put into serious production could produce massive amounts of power. Once the infrasruction is in place it would be virtually free. Mandate(I know it is a bad word)that all new houses built in areas with a certain amount of high heat days must have Solar cells. Not only would it provide a great deal of energy but that energy would be produced during PEAK demand. No more rolling BROWN and BLACK outs it would even put more energy into the grid to reduce the cost of power produced by coal and natural gas. Tidal energy which I don't see much about. Geo thermal which could keep houses without huge heaters and air conditioners. Hydro poailable wer CLEAN and available. Why do we fight over WHAT power to use as we should band together for ALL of the available sourses of not only energy production but freedom from countries that can impact our independance from people who wish us harm?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

The one best option is going to be a bit more difficult. We need to get back to the moon and bring back enough Helium3 to power nuclear plants. Although lunar sources would be at least three decades away it IS a power source that would be worth pursuing.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

But as I have said we need to exploit ALL of the options available to us.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Our use of fossil fuel has not been linear, it has been an ever steepening curve. And that use is changing the atmosphere and oceans in ways that are unfavorable to the planets ability to sustain the existance of large numbers of human beings.

The use of alternatives will not make up for our proflagate use of energy, but it will not contribute to the increase of GHGs in the atmosphere.

What is FAR worse is the fact that China and India are using FAR more fossil fuels than ever before. So even if we GREATly curtailed our use it would have little effect on world wide use.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Yeah the Sun IS on the other side of Earth for half the day it's that the Sun revolves AROUND the Earth that causes all the problems.

 

[mdn2000]

Our use of fossil fuel has not been linear, it has been an ever steepening curve. And that use is changing the atmosphere and oceans in ways that are unfavorable to the planets ability to sustain the existance of large numbers of human beings.

The use of alternatives will not make up for our proflagate use of energy, but it will not contribute to the increase of GHGs in the atmosphere.

Your nothing but a liar that does not know what your talking about. Hell you got busted posting lies, remember Hansen, Hansen used false data and got caught by co-workers, Hansen admitted what he did, Old Crock posted Hansens lie months after Hansen admitted what he did, Old Crock had the explanation ready and posted the explantion minutes after Krotchdog busted Old Crock, I found this out simply by searching Old Crocks posts.

I even busted you posting a lie about a windmill farms electrical output and Old Crock could not post anything in response.

It is nothing more than a lie, Old Crock is a Liberal/Marxist who believes its okay to lie, look how Old Crock will call others very nasty things, thats not rational.

Old Crock is political hack here simply make sure not one conservative who knows the truth is not demonized. Old Crock has demonstrated this over, and over, and over.

This is Old Crocks politcal job, maybe on his own, maybe for tje Liberal/Marxist party, over the internet we will never know for sure but its naive to think otherwise.

Either way the Liberal/Marxist is searching the internet and will never ever let a conservative go unanswered.

When confronted with indisputable fact the Liberal/Marxist will just ignore the thread with facts and open 50 more threads to bury the facts.

You think its an accident so many new threads are opened with the same topic or premise.

 

[mdn2000]

alternatives will not make up for our proflagate use of energy, but it will not contribute to the increase of GHGs

Typical problem gasses include SO2 caused by high-sulfur fuel and batch material, HF when fluorine is used as a fluxing agent, boric acid when boric oxide is present in the batch, and formaldehyde caused by the heating of resins in wool glass in the forming and curing process.

Alternative energy, specirfically windmills are more polluting than burning oil. What Old Crock lies about is the production of fiberglass. How can Old Crock ignore the fact that over 250 tons of fiberglass is used in a single windmill.

Explain how the production of fiberglass is sustainable and non-polluting.

 

[xÞx]

The sun stops shining every night and on cloudy days

No it doesn't.

 

[Oddball]

alternatives will not make up for our proflagate use of energy, but it will not contribute to the increase of GHGs

Typical problem gasses include SO2 caused by high-sulfur fuel and batch material, HF when fluorine is used as a fluxing agent, boric acid when boric oxide is present in the batch, and formaldehyde caused by the heating of resins in wool glass in the forming and curing process.

Alternative energy, specirfically windmills are more polluting than burning oil. What Old Crock lies about is the production of fiberglass. How can Old Crock ignore the fact that over 250 tons of fiberglass is used in a single windmill.

Explain how the production of fiberglass is sustainable and non-polluting.

He also fails to recognize that there isn't a metals smelter and processing plant anywhere in the world that isn't fired by coal, oil or gas. Also, coke (coal) is an essential ingredient in making the steel that the windmill towers are made of.....Oh, the carbon footprint!

After economics, enviro-wackaloons are terrible at elementary math.

 

[mdn2000]

The sun stops shining every night and on cloudy days

No it doesn't.

Tell that to the solar panels in the california desert, at best six hours of effective solar radiation a day. Throw in the cloudy days of winter and as far as the solar panels are concerned the sun has quit shining.

I am hardly surprised that those who support solar energy are unaware of the limits of this power source. If solar was useful we would not need wind power, if wind power was good we would not need solar, if oil companies were not making a huge profit selling energy and the basic materials needed to produce these forms of power you would here the excutives of oil companies explaining how limited Green energy is.

Oil companies are expanding to supply the manufacturers of fiberglass and solar panels.
Curiously quiet they are do you not think.

 

[xÞx]

If you can't tell shade from a star suddenly 'turning off', you're too stupid to waste any more time with.

 

[mdn2000]

If you can't tell shade from a star suddenly 'turning off', you're too stupid to waste any more time with.

Yes, your posts were so incredibly rich with information I simply had to resort to stupidity.

After all one does not debate with a fool in the same manner as one debates a scholar.

 

[mdn2000]

alternatives will not make up for our proflagate use of energy, but it will not contribute to the increase of GHGs

Typical problem gasses include SO2 caused by high-sulfur fuel and batch material, HF when fluorine is used as a fluxing agent, boric acid when boric oxide is present in the batch, and formaldehyde caused by the heating of resins in wool glass in the forming and curing process.

Alternative energy, specirfically windmills are more polluting than burning oil. What Old Crock lies about is the production of fiberglass. How can Old Crock ignore the fact that over 250 tons of fiberglass is used in a single windmill.

Explain how the production of fiberglass is sustainable and non-polluting.

I see the twins chrissy and old crock posting bullshit in other threads, claiming I add no facts, here are some facts on the pollution of "green energy", where are the twins, why do they ignore this than lie in other threads.