Surprise: Poorest Obamacare Enrollees Face $530 Tax Bill...all because less then 4 million uninsured

[healthmyths]

Surprise: Poorest Obamacare Enrollees Face $530 IRS Tax Bill
A family earning $100,000 would see a penalty of $2500 for failing to obtain qualified Obamacare health insurance.
Surprise Poorest Obamacare Enrollees Face 530 IRS Tax Bill Americans for Tax Reform

All because the LIP (Low information people) can't do simple arithmetic that there NEVER were 46 million uninsured as Obama claimed BEFORE ACA passed.... then after passed Obama said oh yea will there really are 36 million as 10 million are not citizens!!!
But the lie goes further! Because of this administration piss poor inefficiencies they failed to realize as
The Census declared... 14 million were already eligible for Medicaid/SCHIP but the administration never
informed them! YUP... Obama wanted those 14 million to be counted as uninsured...when all they needed to do was simply register!

And of course the blatant Exaggerator-In-Chief counted 18 million people that could afford (made over $50,000) were young enough NOT to need (under 34 years!!) are being forced to buy! WHY???
So 4 million that really want insurance be covered?
Instead all of us are paying more and more because Obamacare was so screwed up based on gross exaggerations, 1,000% exaggerated "46 million versus reality 4 million!"

How stupid! YOU LIPs are just so totally screwing up our country.

 

[Moonglow]

Well that will be a lot of cash left in the Treasury to blow some where else...

 

[emilynghiem]

Surprise: Poorest Obamacare Enrollees Face $530 IRS Tax Bill
A family earning $100,000 would see a penalty of $2500 for failing to obtain qualified Obamacare health insurance.
Surprise Poorest Obamacare Enrollees Face 530 IRS Tax Bill Americans for Tax Reform

All because the LIP (Low information people) can't do simple arithmetic that there NEVER were 46 million uninsured as Obama claimed BEFORE ACA passed.... then after passed Obama said oh yea will there really are 36 million as 10 million are not citizens!!!
But the lie goes further! Because of this administration piss poor inefficiencies they failed to realize as
The Census declared... 14 million were already eligible for Medicaid/SCHIP but the administration never
informed them! YUP... Obama wanted those 14 million to be counted as uninsured...when all they needed to do was simply register!

And of course the blatant Exaggerator-In-Chief counted 18 million people that could afford (made over $50,000) were young enough NOT to need (under 34 years!!) are being forced to buy! WHY???
So 4 million that really want insurance be covered?
Instead all of us are paying more and more because Obamacare was so screwed up based on gross exaggerations, 1,000% exaggerated "46 million versus reality 4 million!"

How stupid! YOU LIPs are just so totally screwing up our country.

Dear healthmyths
1. was the deducted amount 1% of salary over 10,000?
is it 2% or is that next year?

2. how much is deducted from SUBSIDIES

3. someone didn't believe me when I posted that a supporter of Obama/Obamacare
had a 900 tax return when he is used to getting over 2000.

Do you know how much the SUBSIDIES are?
is the fine 1% or 2% this year (I know it goes up 1% more each year thereafter)

 

[koshergrl]

Told ya so. Do the people who applauded this travesty feel stupid now?

Not all of them..but they will when they realize that the *free* health care is shitty, and they're paying top dolla for it.

 

[Zander]

Obamacare is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. The insidiousness of its phase- in" is similar to boiling a frog.......by the time the masses understand the consequences, it will be too late, they'll be boiled. Our most devious enemies could not have done worse......

 

[emilynghiem]

Told ya so. Do the people who applauded this travesty feel stupid now?

Not all of them..but they will when they realize that the *free* health care is shitty, and they're paying top dolla for it.

It's gone back to "well why did the government spend so much money on the war and nobody complained"

more passive aggressive antics.
create this debacle, then go back and use it as leverage to stir up the old stuff that should have been addressed first.

 

[emilynghiem]

Obamacare is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. The insidiousness of its phase- in" is similar to boiling a frog.......by the time the masses understand the consequences, it will be too late, they'll be boiled. Our most devious enemies could not have done worse......

Zander since the liberals researched the cost of the Iraq War and are presenting the tab to the public to be reviewed
why not do the same with Obamacare? Then demand the Democrats fix the whole thing, take it on as their party project,
and leave everyone else to our own plans. Push it all on the Democrats who passed this, and make them pay anyone back who didn't get what they were promised. Treat it like consumer fraud. write it up and if they refuse, then ban them from running for the White House until they have a plan for restructuring and reorganizing this through their own party support base. And the Democrats can do the same for Republicans they blame for trillions in unauthorized war contracts that need to be refunded and credited back to Taxpayers. We can use those credits through the Fed to finance reforms while the wrongdoers responsible pay back what they abused.

 

[Zander]

Obamacare is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. The insidiousness of its phase- in" is similar to boiling a frog.......by the time the masses understand the consequences, it will be too late, they'll be boiled. Our most devious enemies could not have done worse......

Zander since the liberals researched the cost of the Iraq War and are presenting the tab to the public to be reviewed
why not do the same with Obamacare? Then demand the Democrats fix the whole thing, take it on as their party project,
and leave everyone else to our own plans. Push it all on the Democrats who passed this, and make them pay anyone back who didn't get what they were promised. Treat it like consumer fraud. write it up and if they refuse, then ban them from running for the White House until they have a plan for restructuring and reorganizing this through their own party support base. And the Democrats can do the same for Republicans they blame for trillions in unauthorized war contracts that need to be refunded and credited back to Taxpayers. We can use those credits through the Fed to finance reforms while the wrongdoers responsible pay back what they abused.

Go for it. The "affordable" Care act is a fraud, right down its name. If people knew its true cost they'd be shocked...

 

[emilynghiem]

Obamacare is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. The insidiousness of its phase- in" is similar to boiling a frog.......by the time the masses understand the consequences, it will be too late, they'll be boiled. Our most devious enemies could not have done worse......

Zander since the liberals researched the cost of the Iraq War and are presenting the tab to the public to be reviewed
why not do the same with Obamacare? Then demand the Democrats fix the whole thing, take it on as their party project,
and leave everyone else to our own plans. Push it all on the Democrats who passed this, and make them pay anyone back who didn't get what they were promised. Treat it like consumer fraud. write it up and if they refuse, then ban them from running for the White House until they have a plan for restructuring and reorganizing this through their own party support base. And the Democrats can do the same for Republicans they blame for trillions in unauthorized war contracts that need to be refunded and credited back to Taxpayers. We can use those credits through the Fed to finance reforms while the wrongdoers responsible pay back what they abused.

Go for it. The "affordable" Care act is a fraud, right down its name. If people knew its true cost they'd be shocked...

The angle I'm bringing up, is why are we spending 50K a head for housing and health care on inmates in prison.
And instead of states going after crooks to pay the costs of their crimes,
the IRS is going after law abiding working taxpayers to get even MORE money to pay for health care.
Why can't that be paid for with the money we're already spending that is wasted?

If the argument is that people should pay for their costs, well, why isn't that being applied to criminals
actually convicted and who need to pay back costs incurred to the public?

I compared it to a credit card. If we have to pay the credit card bill, why are we letting crooks rack up costs
and we get stuck with the bill. Why can't we demand from the card company to remove fraud and theft off our account,
give us back that available credit, and we can finance proper reform and development with that capital.

It's not our fault the govt let crooks run off with that money. So make them pay back the debts over time.
We shouldn't have to pay for that, and shouldn't have to wait on it.

Man, if American citizens started demanding land as collateral on these debts we are expected to pay,
we might own our own cities again instead of corporate developers and financiers buying out all the politicians and judges.

 

[healthmyths]

Surprise: Poorest Obamacare Enrollees Face $530 IRS Tax Bill
A family earning $100,000 would see a penalty of $2500 for failing to obtain qualified Obamacare health insurance.
Surprise Poorest Obamacare Enrollees Face 530 IRS Tax Bill Americans for Tax Reform

All because the LIP (Low information people) can't do simple arithmetic that there NEVER were 46 million uninsured as Obama claimed BEFORE ACA passed.... then after passed Obama said oh yea will there really are 36 million as 10 million are not citizens!!!
But the lie goes further! Because of this administration piss poor inefficiencies they failed to realize as
The Census declared... 14 million were already eligible for Medicaid/SCHIP but the administration never
informed them! YUP... Obama wanted those 14 million to be counted as uninsured...when all they needed to do was simply register!

And of course the blatant Exaggerator-In-Chief counted 18 million people that could afford (made over $50,000) were young enough NOT to need (under 34 years!!) are being forced to buy! WHY???
So 4 million that really want insurance be covered?
Instead all of us are paying more and more because Obamacare was so screwed up based on gross exaggerations, 1,000% exaggerated "46 million versus reality 4 million!"

How stupid! YOU LIPs are just so totally screwing up our country.

Dear healthmyths
1. was the deducted amount 1% of salary over 10,000?
is it 2% or is that next year?

2. how much is deducted from SUBSIDIES

3. someone didn't believe me when I posted that a supporter of Obama/Obamacare
had a 900 tax return when he is used to getting over 2000.

Do you know how much the SUBSIDIES are?
is the fine 1% or 2% this year (I know it goes up 1% more each year thereafter)

I'd check the link I provided.

 

[healthmyths]

Surprise: Poorest Obamacare Enrollees Face $530 IRS Tax Bill
A family earning $100,000 would see a penalty of $2500 for failing to obtain qualified Obamacare health insurance.
Surprise Poorest Obamacare Enrollees Face 530 IRS Tax Bill Americans for Tax Reform

All because the LIP (Low information people) can't do simple arithmetic that there NEVER were 46 million uninsured as Obama claimed BEFORE ACA passed.... then after passed Obama said oh yea will there really are 36 million as 10 million are not citizens!!!
But the lie goes further! Because of this administration piss poor inefficiencies they failed to realize as
The Census declared... 14 million were already eligible for Medicaid/SCHIP but the administration never
informed them! YUP... Obama wanted those 14 million to be counted as uninsured...when all they needed to do was simply register!

And of course the blatant Exaggerator-In-Chief counted 18 million people that could afford (made over $50,000) were young enough NOT to need (under 34 years!!) are being forced to buy! WHY???
So 4 million that really want insurance be covered?
Instead all of us are paying more and more because Obamacare was so screwed up based on gross exaggerations, 1,000% exaggerated "46 million versus reality 4 million!"

How stupid! YOU LIPs are just so totally screwing up our country.

Dear healthmyths
1. was the deducted amount 1% of salary over 10,000?
is it 2% or is that next year?

2. how much is deducted from SUBSIDIES

3. someone didn't believe me when I posted that a supporter of Obama/Obamacare
had a 900 tax return when he is used to getting over 2000.

Do you know how much the SUBSIDIES are?
is the fine 1% or 2% this year (I know it goes up 1% more each year thereafter)

Remember folks the WHOLE BIG healthcare crisis was 46 million uninsured Americans...when in reality there are less then 4 million...BUT
if YOU don't get health insurance YOU PAY A TAX! See below..

If you don’t have coverage in 2015, you’ll pay the higher of these two amounts:

• 2% of your yearly household income. (Only the amount of income above the tax filing threshold, about $10,000 for an individual, is used to calculate the penalty.) The maximum penalty is the national average premium for a bronze plan.
• $325 per person for the year ($162.50 per child under 18). The maximum penalty per family using this method is $975.

The fee for not having coverage in 2014
If you didn’t have coverage in 2014, you’ll pay the higher of these two amounts:

• 1% of your yearly household income. (Only the amount of income above the tax filing threshold, about $10,000 for an individual, is used to calculate the penalty.) The maximum penalty is the national average premium for a bronze plan.
  
  
• $95 per person for the year ($47.50 per child under 18). The maximum penalty per family using this method is $285.

from Healthcare.gov web site: Individual Mandate Penalty You Pay If You Don t Have Health Insurance Coverage HealthCare.gov

What this means is your penalty will be used to subsidize someone who was:
a) an illegal alien......b) already covered by Medicaid/SCHIP but didn't know then they buy subsidized health insurance.. c) people that didn't want insurance!
What an absolutely f...ked up system!
All because it "sounds good" compassionate... full of crap!
A) tax lawyers as tanning salons are taxed i.e. because fear of lawsuits cost $850 BILLION a year in duplicate tests,etc.
B) Use the $27 billion per year to pay the $5,000 premium for each of the truly uninsured that want and need insurance.
C) Then with that done NO MORE unreimbursed hospital visits and NO MORE 6,000% padding and passing on by hospitals to insurance companies!

THEN watch how much health insurance premiums drop because as most LIPs don't comprehend...
1) Insurance companies premiums regulated by states.
2) Regulators look at the percent of claims paid out of premiums...i.e. medical liability ratio and if it falls below what the average is i.e. 80% of premiums..
Insurance companies making more money therefore premiums will be reduced!
It is that simple!