Surprise! Obama Is Creating More New Jobs Than George W. Bush

[Luddly Neddite]

Not just jobs --

Among other things, this will

...[maximize] the economic climate for the private sector to flourish. By lowering the tax base to allow business to expand and hire. To make the "business environment" compatible with the "economic environment" with the tax structure.

By ensuring a ""business friendly" culture that encourages business to grow and expand...

Thanks Barry!

 

[RandallFlagg]

Government jobs are far superior to most private sector jobs.

Comrade, you are in desperate need of professional help.

Comrade? You know you've lost when you have to resort to childish behavior.

Childish behavior? By definition, Skippy, anyone who says that government is "far superior" to the private sector is a communist, or, at the very least, a socialist. Again, all that hate is going to burn you up.

There is no childish behavior here. I'm just trying to help a soul that is obviously in dire need of help.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Not just jobs --

Among other things, this will

...[maximize] the economic climate for the private sector to flourish. By lowering the tax base to allow business to expand and hire. To make the "business environment" compatible with the "economic environment" with the tax structure.

By ensuring a ""business friendly" culture that encourages business to grow and expand...

Thanks Barry!

Yeah! Thanks Barry!! I'm 68, on retirement and Social Security and MY taxes are going up $2,400 dollars in 2013. Thanks so much!!

 

[Euroconservativ]

Not just jobs --

Among other things, this will

...[maximize] the economic climate for the private sector to flourish. By lowering the tax base to allow business to expand and hire. To make the "business environment" compatible with the "economic environment" with the tax structure.

By ensuring a ""business friendly" culture that encourages business to grow and expand...

Thanks Barry!

2% and 3% are a hell of a lot of people

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Interesting. I'm 66, retired, income from SS and my investments but since I have no pay check, I have no payroll taxes.

You want the name of my accounting firm?

 

[RandallFlagg]

Interesting. I'm 66, retired, income from SS and my investments but since I have no pay check, I have no payroll taxes.

You want the name of my accounting firm?

Nope. Because, if your accounting firm is responsible for the lie that you are using that "98% of the publics will not see a rise in their taxes" then I would suggest to you, that you need to fire your accountants. They are ignorant and will most likely cause you to do time for tax evasion.

 

[Misty]

The private sector creates jobs - government jobs are a drain on the private sector; economics 101!

Government jobs are far superior to most private sector jobs.

So is everyone going to work for the government? would that solve our economics problem? Dumbass.

 

[depotoo]

I do wonder how many supporting the government creating jobs here actually do work for the government? I bet quite a few.

 

[kidrocks]

Comrade, you are in desperate need of professional help.

Comrade? You know you've lost when you have to resort to childish behavior.

Childish behavior? By definition, Skippy, anyone who says that government is "far superior" to the private sector is a communist, or, at the very least, a socialist. Again, all that hate is going to burn you up.

There is no childish behavior here. I'm just trying to help a soul that is obviously in dire need of help.

Your humor slays me.

 

[ilia25]

Exactly!!! It is not government's responsibility to create jobs and they are not capable.

It is the government responsibility to maximize the employment. And there a lot of thing the government can do toward that goal.

And how does the government accomplish that? By maximizing the economic climate for the private sector to flourish.

True, but that is only a start. The government should also work to smooth out the business cycle, and to prevent depressions, when the unemployment is chronically high.

By lowering the tax base to allow business to expand and hire. To make the "business environment" compatible with the "economic environment" with the tax structure.

Personal taxes have very little impact on the economy.

You know, pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of what Barry does...

Obama being business unfriendly is a right-wing lie, pure and simple.

P.S. -- your Franklin quote is fake.

 

[Inthemiddle]

The private sector creates jobs - government jobs are a drain on the private sector; economics 101!

As a matter of fact, the continual reduction in government jobs has been the major force holding job numbers back.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Jobs grow with population.

What the OP's meme fails to show is that Obama's economy fails pathetically to keep job growth at the pace of population growth. This is because he hates business, and the feeling is quite mutual. A third or less of American think he has us heading in the right direction. Hie is a piece of shit as a leader and lower than that as a human being.

Your graph is crap as are you.

Of course YOU would believe it is crap because it blasts the lib's false narrative.

 

[kidrocks]

Jobs grow with population.

What the OP's meme fails to show is that Obama's economy fails pathetically to keep job growth at the pace of population growth. This is because he hates business, and the feeling is quite mutual. A third or less of American think he has us heading in the right direction. Hie is a piece of shit as a leader and lower than that as a human being.

Your graph is crap as are you.

Of course YOU would believe it is crap because it blasts the lib's false narrative.

The graph is a fraud.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Government jobs are far superior to most private sector jobs.

Superior according to what criteria?

Compensation relative to productivity? I could see that. From the perspective of semi-skilled worker, government jobs may be preferable to private sector jobs because they get more for doing less.

The private sector on the other hand, by definition, requires the value of productivity to exceed its compensation. It must be this way for economic growth to occur. So in terms of productivity, private sector jobs blow public sector jobs out of the water, across the board.

Sounds like if you're convinced that government jobs are the bee's knees, you're all about the bennies and could care less about actually doing anything valuable.

It only seems that gov't jobs are preferable to private sector jobs because they get more for doing less when in comparison. But the truth is that with private sector jobs you do far more work for way less wages (ie McDonalds) with little or no benefits to speak of.

Private sector work is based on productivity and value of the position to the employer.
Government or public sector employment is not based on productivity. It's based on putting in time. Federal workers need not concern themselves with merit or productivity because their union forbids it. Once a federal worker reaches the end of their probationary period, the union protection kicks in and from that point forward, it is almost impossible to discharge that worker.
Unionized public employees are paid far above market rate wages.
Private sector workers must produce and show their employers they are worthy of first keeping their job and become eligible for promotion.

 

[thereisnospoon]

That's not a fact... that's a myth.

Uhhh.. no.. it is not.. the money must be taken away from the private sector... and channeled thru multiple levels of bureaucracy adding waste and drain on the economy..

The myth that government jobs are helpful to the economy is on par with the myth that welfare spending stimulates the economy more than if the money was never taken out of the hands of the populous to begin with

Tough shit pal. This is America, land of the free. If you don't like the competition get the hell out or offer a better carrot.

Government does not compete with the private sector. It is not supposed to.
Government operates on a captive market.
If there was true competition between public and private sector, the private sector would win hands down 100% of the time.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Your graph is crap as are you.

Haha, thanks for conceding your entire argument right there.

Go fuck yourself.

Typical lib response.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Surprise! 48 million Americans are on food stamps.

Surprise! Unemployment for women and African-Americans rose despite an economy that created 155,000 jobs. Unemployment for women rose to 7.3% in December from 7.0% while the rate for African-Americans rose sharply to 14.0% from 13.2% in November. As you can see the Democrat Party's war on women and black Americans continue.

Surprise! Unemployment was revised from 7.7% to 7.8%, and that is the Obama friendly numbers, not the real numbers that include those who have given up looking for work and such.

Surprise! Joe Biden promised that we'd be hiring at a rate of 500,000 jobs a month in April of 2010 if we did the stimulus. Where are those 500k jobs??????


Surprise! According to Generation Opportunity, which charts unemployment for Millennials aged 18-29, the rate of unemployment is 11.5% and a shocking 22.1% for younger black Americans. But, the Democrat-Media complex are reporting 155,000 jobs and an unchanged 7.8% unemployment rate........LOL!!!


Surprise! The fiscal cliff plan Obama and Democrats wanted and got will screw over the middle class!! Workers making $30,000 will take a bigger hit on their pay than those earning $500,000 under new fiscal deal -- middle-class workers will take a bigger hit to their income proportionately than those earning between $200,000 and $500,000 under the new fiscal cliff deal, according to the [supposedly] nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. Earners in the latter group will pay an average 1.3% more -- or an additional $2,711 -- in taxes this year..." This, by the way, is just the FICA tax, I believe, 'cause there's a lot more. They're gonna be paying a lot more than $2,000. That's just on this one tax, the payroll tax. The people that earn "between $30,000 and $200,000 will see their paychecks shrink by as much as 1.7%," and 1.7% of 30 grand is a lot more than 1.3% of 500 grand. So the people that make 30 or 40 grand are going to be out about $1700. The people who make 500 grand are gonna be out $2700. WAY TO GO DEMOCRATS! YOU SURE ARE THE PARTY of the MIDDLE CLASS!!!!!


Surprise! Democrats and lefties talk up a glorious picture, when in fact it is anything but that. Surprise! You can't think outside of what the Democrat-Media complex feed you....oh wait...given it is you...this is not a surprise.

Surprise! President Obama was handily re-elected.

Yes it was a surprise.
What's your point?
This guy is more interested in his time off from the White House.
He lives a lifestyle far beyond his income level. At taxpayer expense.
Why could he not vacation at Camp David instead of blowing $4 million on a trip to Hawaii?

 

[thereisnospoon]

as a NASA employee, you right wingers are disgusting. Seriously deranged.


I could easily work in the private sector and make a heck of a lot more coin. But I prefer the slow nickle to the fast dime all day long.

I wish I could walk some of you through KSC on a busy day just to show you how hard many govt workers do work. Seeing this with your own eyes may change a few minds around here.

Not a correct comparison. NASA employees are highly specialized educated people with special skills. The majority of government workers are unskilled or low skilled people who are compensated well over their actual value in productivity.
So why don't you work in the private sector? Is it because if you did, you would be one of "those people"? Or is it you'd rather be a public employee so you can bitch and moan about how rotten everything is and how the people somehow "owe" you something?
No one is compelling you to work for government. You are making a CHOICE. Live it with and shut up about it.
Oh, don't give me this shit about how poor you are. Your benefits package far and away exceeds what is available in the private sector. And WE get to pay for it. So in fact you OWE US!
BTW it your Dear Leader that is responsible for the layoffs of several thousand of your now former co-workers.

 

[thereisnospoon]

POST #1
Duped
The private sector creates jobs - government jobs are a drain
on the private sector; economics 101!

post #5
Clementine
Exactly!!! It is not government's responsibility to create jobs
and they are not capable.
Hiring more bureaucrats because of all the oppressive
laws they passed is not good for the economy.

post #15
blackhawk
The problem is everyone can't work for the government so constantly
expanding government and that workforce is self defeating in the end.

Leave it to the lying sister-fucking raciest republicans to pull
another lie out of their asses.

It was brain-dead Reagan and war-criminal bush who padded gov.jobs.

Top Picks (Most Requested Statistics) : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Total Private Employment - CES0500000001
Government Employment - CES9000000001

The mother-fucking Ex-president war-criminal.
private sector jobs

Jan 2001 -111,631
Jan 2009 -110,985 --Lost 646 thousand private sector jobs.
Government jobs
Jan 2001 -20,835
Jan 2009 -22,576 --Added 1,741 Government jobs

Our cool President Obama
private sector jobs

Jan 2009 -110,985
Dec 2012 -112,096 --Added 1,111 private sector jobs.
Government jobs
Jan 2009 -22,576
Dec 2012 -21,925 --Lost 651 thousand Government jobs.


For Republicans, Lying is a way of life.

-------Bluecoller--the grumpy old kraut -----

LOL....Horseshit lib blogosphere.

 

[Samson]

Obama's first term isn't technically over yet, but so far, employment has risen from 133.56 million in January 2009 to 134.02 million in the latest report, for December 2012. That's a net gain of about 460,000 or 0.3 percent. As paltry as that is, it beats Bush's first-term performance...

So, when Obama meant "Change" he really meant "Paltry Change."

And then only after spending 9 Trillion dollars on a "Stimulous"......opps....."Paltry Stimulous" .....program.

The fact that this 0.3% net gain in employment over Bush should even be considered as "Beating Bush's Performance" speaks volumes about the level of desperation Obama supporters have reached. Frankly, I wish it wasn't so, because if the situation is this desperate, then we all have a much tougher 4 years ahead of us.