Supreme Court to take up Same Sex Marriage...

[percysunshine]

Denying homosexuals equal treatment under the law was fun while it lasted.

You denied homosexuals equal treatment under the law?

Don't tell anyone....

 

[Freewill]

Just something else that the government will force onto the majority. Where in the Constitution is marriage even mentioned?

How is this being forced upon you?

If you aren't inclined to marry your own gender, how does this effect your life in any way, shape or form?

Just as Obamatax is being forced upon the majority.

There is no mention of health care in the Consitution or the Bill of Rights. As there is no mention of marriage. So if my state decides that marriage is between a man and a woman, as it always has been defined, that that is the state's right to do so.

IF this is to become a right then let's do a consitutional amendment and have the majority of the people decide the issue, not a court where there are almost half with a pre-dispostion either way. Rights are defined, they are not made up out of sail cloth.

 

[Freewill]

Denying homosexuals equal treatment under the law was fun while it lasted.

Say what? What person was not allowed to marry?

 

[mjollnir]

Denying homosexuals equal treatment under the law was fun while it lasted.

Say what? What person was not allowed to marry?

Don't play cutsie-poo semantic games, child.

 

[Seawytch]

I guess Free Food and Lodging should have been in the Bill of Rights, too...

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Not a bad idea.

What the fuck, as long as you're handing out rights may as well hand out some useful ones.

Are we not already past that point?

It is amazing to see "rights" spelled out that do not exist.

What right do you not think exists? The right to be treated equally under the law or the right to marry?

 

[Katzndogz]

If they want to be on the right side of history, they will find against same sex marriage. If they want to be on the same wrong side of history as all the other failed civilizations that normalized homosexuality that's what they will do.

After the fiasco of Roe v. Wade, they might just rule against same sex marriage and let it be fought out where it should be, in legislatures.

Please point out a "failed" civilization that failed because it normalized homosexuality.

Thanks.

They didn't fail for the sole reason they normalized homosexuality. Normalizing homosexuality is a symptom of a civilization terminally ill. Every civilization that normalized homosexuality and there were many, never passed that value on after their demise. The pattern has been repeated many, many times. The civilization is so decayed and depraved it fails. Whatever replaces it rejects the depraved ways including normalization of homosexuality. If same sex marriage was a value on the right side of history, we would have had it since the Pharoahs ruled Egypt.

 

[Seawytch]

Just something else that the government will force onto the majority. Where in the Constitution is marriage even mentioned?

How is this being forced upon you?

If you aren't inclined to marry your own gender, how does this effect your life in any way, shape or form?

Just as Obamatax is being forced upon the majority.

There is no mention of health care in the Consitution or the Bill of Rights. As there is no mention of marriage. So if my state decides that marriage is between a man and a woman, as it always has been defined, that that is the state's right to do so.

IF this is become a right then let's do a consitutional amendment and have the majority of the people decide the issue, not a court where there are almost half with a pre-dispostion either way. Rights are defined, they are not made up out of sail cloth.

Ah, but the Supreme Court of the United States has declared marriage a fundamental right...on no less than three occasions I might add. Now they must decide if that fundamental right can be kept from law abiding, tax paying gay and lesbian citizens.

Actually, the "law abiding" doesn't even matter...according to the Supreme Court. Charles Manson has the "right to marry" but I don't.

 

[Article 15]

Denying homosexuals equal treatment under the law was fun while it lasted.

Say what? What person was not allowed to marry?

Don't play cutsie-poo semantic games, child.

Disingenuous crap like that is all they have.

 

[mjollnir]

If they want to be on the right side of history, they will find against same sex marriage. If they want to be on the same wrong side of history as all the other failed civilizations that normalized homosexuality that's what they will do.

After the fiasco of Roe v. Wade, they might just rule against same sex marriage and let it be fought out where it should be, in legislatures.

Please point out a "failed" civilization that failed because it normalized homosexuality.

Thanks.

They didn't fail for the sole reason they normalized homosexuality. Normalizing homosexuality is a symptom of a civilization terminally ill. Every civilization that normalized homosexuality and there were many, never passed that value on after their demise. The pattern has been repeated many, many times. The civilization is so decayed and depraved it fails. Whatever replaces it rejects the depraved ways including normalization of homosexuality. If same sex marriage was a value on the right side of history, we would have had it since the Pharoahs ruled Egypt.

So, IOW, you can't point to even one, nor can you cite how 'normalizing homosexuality' contributed anything to it's fall, nor can you cite any evidence whatsoever of this being a pattern.

Wow. What a surprise.

 

[Katzndogz]

Please point out a "failed" civilization that failed because it normalized homosexuality.

Thanks.

They didn't fail for the sole reason they normalized homosexuality. Normalizing homosexuality is a symptom of a civilization terminally ill. Every civilization that normalized homosexuality and there were many, never passed that value on after their demise. The pattern has been repeated many, many times. The civilization is so decayed and depraved it fails. Whatever replaces it rejects the depraved ways including normalization of homosexuality. If same sex marriage was a value on the right side of history, we would have had it since the Pharoahs ruled Egypt.

So, IOW, you can't point to even one, nor can you cite how 'normalizing homosexuality' contributed anything to it's fall, nor can you cite any evidence whatsoever of this being a pattern.

Wow. What a surprise.

I just told you. You want to create some kind of strawman just to have something to say. Out of all the civilizations that have normalized homosexuality does one exist today? Just one. Has any civilization that normalized homosexuality ever passed that value on to the civilization that replaced the failure? Not one. The Egyptians, Greeks, Romans and Chinese all had recognition of same sex rights and they were all replaced by civilizations that slaughtered gays. If you want a present day example, look at Europe. Europe is failing and being replaced by islam. They will hang gays from lamp posts when Europe finally dies.

 

[Freewill]

Not a bad idea.

What the fuck, as long as you're handing out rights may as well hand out some useful ones.

Are we not already past that point?

It is amazing to see "rights" spelled out that do not exist.

What right do you not think exists? The right to be treated equally under the law or the right to marry?

Where and what law mentions gay marriage?

 

[percysunshine]

Either Human cloning, or Sharia law will end this debate. Until then...by all means, carry on....

 

[mjollnir]

They didn't fail for the sole reason they normalized homosexuality. Normalizing homosexuality is a symptom of a civilization terminally ill. Every civilization that normalized homosexuality and there were many, never passed that value on after their demise. The pattern has been repeated many, many times. The civilization is so decayed and depraved it fails. Whatever replaces it rejects the depraved ways including normalization of homosexuality. If same sex marriage was a value on the right side of history, we would have had it since the Pharoahs ruled Egypt.

So, IOW, you can't point to even one, nor can you cite how 'normalizing homosexuality' contributed anything to it's fall, nor can you cite any evidence whatsoever of this being a pattern.

Wow. What a surprise.

I just told you. You want to create some kind of strawman just to have something to say. Out of all the civilizations that have normalized homosexuality does one exist today? Just one. Has any civilization that normalized homosexuality ever passed that value on to the civilization that replaced the failure? Not one. The Egyptians, Greeks, Romans and Chinese all had recognition of same sex rights and they were all replaced by civilizations that slaughtered gays. If you want a present day example, look at Europe. Europe is failing and being replaced by islam. They will hang gays from lamp posts when Europe finally dies.

No, you dodged the question.

Nothing you've stated or cited can be correlated rationally to your claim. Nor have you defined 'normalization' in context for each of these civilizations. You're just prattling off platitudes and expecting them to be taken seriously by people who actually know history.

But your statement about Europe tells me all I need to know about your ability to remain intellectually honest. Europe is in no danger of being 'replaced' by Islam and homosexuality has zero to do with any social upheaval there.

 

[Freewill]

Denying homosexuals equal treatment under the law was fun while it lasted.

Say what? What person was not allowed to marry?

Don't play cutsie-poo semantic games, child.

What law governs gay marriage? When was marriage not defined as between a man and a woman? All states restrict who a person can marry. If gay marriage is forced upon us, not through the legislature but the judicial branch does that not mean that all marriage laws go out the window? Does that not mean you can then marry or sister? If not then why not?

 

[Katzndogz]

So, IOW, you can't point to even one, nor can you cite how 'normalizing homosexuality' contributed anything to it's fall, nor can you cite any evidence whatsoever of this being a pattern.

Wow. What a surprise.

I just told you. You want to create some kind of strawman just to have something to say. Out of all the civilizations that have normalized homosexuality does one exist today? Just one. Has any civilization that normalized homosexuality ever passed that value on to the civilization that replaced the failure? Not one. The Egyptians, Greeks, Romans and Chinese all had recognition of same sex rights and they were all replaced by civilizations that slaughtered gays. If you want a present day example, look at Europe. Europe is failing and being replaced by islam. They will hang gays from lamp posts when Europe finally dies.

No, you dodged the question.

Nothing you've stated or cited can be correlated rationally to your claim. Nor have you defined 'normalization' in context for each of these civilizations. You're just prattling off platitudes and expecting them to be taken seriously by people who actually know history.

But your statement about Europe tells me all I need to know about your ability to remain intellectually honest. Europe is in no danger of being 'replaced' by Islam and homosexuality has zero to do with any social upheaval there.

You can't name one civilization that passed on homosexuality as a value worth keeping can you?

 

[Koios]

say what? What person was not allowed to marry?

don't play cutsie-poo semantic games, child.

what law governs gay marriage? When was marriage not defined as between a man and a woman? All states restrict who a person can marry. If gay marriage is forced upon us, not through the legislature but the judicial branch does that not mean that all marriage laws go out the window? Does that not mean you can then marry or sister? If not then why not?

doma

 

[mjollnir]

Say what? What person was not allowed to marry?

Don't play cutsie-poo semantic games, child.

What law governs gay marriage? When was marriage not defined as between a man and a woman? All states restrict who a person can marry. If gay marriage is forced upon us, not through the legislature but the judicial branch does that not mean that all marriage laws go out the window? Does that not mean you can then marry or sister? If not then why not?

Sigh. This again?

It's called 'equal protection under the law' and in this case it's called 'contract law'.

No, it doesn't mean 'all marriage laws go out the window'.

Where are you getting this bullshit from?

 

[mjollnir]

I just told you. You want to create some kind of strawman just to have something to say. Out of all the civilizations that have normalized homosexuality does one exist today? Just one. Has any civilization that normalized homosexuality ever passed that value on to the civilization that replaced the failure? Not one. The Egyptians, Greeks, Romans and Chinese all had recognition of same sex rights and they were all replaced by civilizations that slaughtered gays. If you want a present day example, look at Europe. Europe is failing and being replaced by islam. They will hang gays from lamp posts when Europe finally dies.

No, you dodged the question.

Nothing you've stated or cited can be correlated rationally to your claim. Nor have you defined 'normalization' in context for each of these civilizations. You're just prattling off platitudes and expecting them to be taken seriously by people who actually know history.

But your statement about Europe tells me all I need to know about your ability to remain intellectually honest. Europe is in no danger of being 'replaced' by Islam and homosexuality has zero to do with any social upheaval there.

You can't name one civilization that passed on homosexuality as a value worth keeping can you?

Homosexuality isn't a 'value' to be 'passed on'. This might explain all the cognitive dissonance you've shown in this thread.

It's been part of humanity for as long as there has been recorded history, at the very least, despite the rises and falls of theses civilizations you're worried about.

 

[Katzndogz]

Once same sex marriage is legal, it is natural that incest will follow, as will polygamy. More than polygamy, there is nothing to stop someone from having multiple wives and multiple husbands. Harvard has already started demanding rights for the incestuous.

Harvard Students Celebrate ‘Incest-Fest’

 

[mjollnir]

Once same sex marriage is legal, it is natural that incest will follow, as will polygamy. More than polygamy, there is nothing to stop someone from having multiple wives and multiple husbands. Harvard has already started demanding rights for the incestuous.

Harvard Students Celebrate ‘Incest-Fest’

Did you actually read what you linked to, you doorknob?