Supreme Court Says No to Citizenship Question, Trump Rebukes Them with Executive Order

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    Bill Barr just said since the Supreme Court told them no to a citizenship question because they did not give a good reason to. So Trump gives a big fuck you to the Supreme Court and the constitution by doing an Executive Order. Bill Barr even said so, by saying if they did the right avenue it would be stuck in litigation too long for it to get on the 2020 census.
     
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    Thank you Pres.Trump!!! ... :thup:
     
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    Yes, but the question still will NOT appear on the census questionnaire:

    "...Speaking from the White House, Mr. Trump said he was issuing an executive order to all agencies in the federal government to pool their existing data and send it to the Commerce Department, which will try to come up with a count without having to stick the question on the census itself.


    Mr. Trump said it will be able to calculate not just citizens and non-citizens, but will finally produce a count of the illegal immigrant population..."

    Trump drops census citizenship question, orders feds to do count from existing records


    Yeah, sounds like it will reeeeal accurate...


    Looks like it's still a loss for Trump
     
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    The Supreme Court should not need to be given a reason. Either the executive branch has the authority to put the question on the census or not.
     
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    That's another thing that will end up going to the Supreme Court. There is no way you can make decisions on the number of districts and the amount of resources given to a community based on an "estimated number" of non-citizens in that area being factored in. It's just another clusterfuck that a person like Bill Barr is showing either how unqualified to be AG, or so partisan and a mindless Trump backer, that he would actually help the President to draw this up.
     
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    If asking about citizenship on the census (not legal status, just citizenship) is so terrifying that it might scare some people out of responding, thereby amounting to a bigoted suppression of the national head count, is it not also bigotry to ask about gender or race on the census? If there is still racism and sexism in the country, might not such a question frighten people so much that they under-report? In fact, isn't the whole idea of a census a form of oppression against the dead?
     
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    Oh wow. Trump couldn't get it past the current court. Didn't see that coming.

    Was there some issue with law enforcement possibly using the census?
     
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    Nothing will make even con-servative justices turn on fat donnie more than their court orders being ignored or bypassed.
     
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    I think democrats should protest the census ... hehe
     
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    It is because the court found out that they were telling them it was for one reason, while planning to use it for another.
     
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