Supreme Court decision probably means jail time for me

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the government can kiss my ass.

i'm not buying health care insurance.

because i'm trying to start my own business i'm already a target for the IRS, now by refusing to purchase health care insurance i'm going to be a huge target for the IRS.

they can charge me for what health care really is, a new large tax.

being part of the 2% who will not participate, i do not comply with corrupt government.
i expect to have problems with the IRS within 5 years

So who pays if you need expensive medical treatment? Are you going to sacrifice the business you worked so hard for or just become another freeloader?
 
How you figure?
Millions more insured.
Who is going to treat them?
Has Obamacare funded the construction of more medical facilities?
Will we now have to wait 6 months to see a specialist when we
have a condition that will kill us in 3 months...

I never got an answer from one smarter then a righty libs here about this.
With all the newly insured on the roles now.
Who is gonna be taking care of them?

I have asked this question over and over again.
Have yet to get an answer.
yes, it's part of the bill....more doctors, increased numbers at medical schools, nursing as well and more medical facilities....

they are certain to stumble though, imo....until the increase in doctors catches up...so in a way, i agree with you.... there could be a short period of being chaotic....

More Doctors? What makes you think College students might not decide that being a Lawyer is far more lucrative? It's sure going to be fun waiting eighteen months to get "that" Operation you need.

I thought you guys were all about the "free market".

If demand for doctors is high, more people will become doctors.
 
yes, it's part of the bill....more doctors, increased numbers at medical schools, nursing as well and more medical facilities....

they are certain to stumble though, imo....until the increase in doctors catches up...so in a way, i agree with you.... there could be a short period of being chaotic....

More Doctors? What makes you think College students might not decide that being a Lawyer is far more lucrative? It's sure going to be fun waiting eighteen months to get "that" Operation you need.

I thought you guys were all about the "free market".

If demand for doctors is high, more people will become doctors.

That is a stupid statement.

If demand for doctors is high...then the renumeration to the doctors would attract them in a free market.

When the market is regulated....you will have a shortage.

Missed that last gas crisis did you ?
 
Lets get this straight. If you can't afford insurance they are going to fine you, and you lefty idiots support this? Fools.

Actually the right supported it for 10 years when it was the idea of the Heritage Foundation. Glad I could clear that up for you.
 
More Doctors? What makes you think College students might not decide that being a Lawyer is far more lucrative? It's sure going to be fun waiting eighteen months to get "that" Operation you need.

I thought you guys were all about the "free market".

If demand for doctors is high, more people will become doctors.

That is a stupid statement.

If demand for doctors is high...then the renumeration to the doctors would attract them in a free market.

When the market is regulated....you will have a shortage.

Missed that last gas crisis did you ?

Why don't you tell me exactly why you think that there will be a shortage of doctors?

"Obamacare" is only going to give doctors more business.
 
Supreme Court decision probably means jail time for me

Nonsense.

The ACA authorizes neither criminal nor civil penalties.

Only the most gullible apologists for ACA are making this argument. Compliance will be an ongoing effort and, I predict, most definitely end with people doing time.

They did the same sort of soft-pedaling when they were convincing all the states to mandate auto insurance. Over time, they upped the stakes and put 'teeth' in the bill. This will most assuredly happy with the ACA mandate, especially if there is a popular civil disobedience effort.
 
I thought you guys were all about the "free market".

If demand for doctors is high, more people will become doctors.

That is a stupid statement.

If demand for doctors is high...then the renumeration to the doctors would attract them in a free market.

When the market is regulated....you will have a shortage.

Missed that last gas crisis did you ?

Why don't you tell me exactly why you think that there will be a shortage of doctors?

"Obamacare" is only going to give doctors more business.

As has been pointed out on several threads through the past several months.....

The Mayo in AZ stopped taking "business" in the form of medicare....look it up. They said they were losing 140 million a year. Now, tell me how you are going to pay doctors when you are losing that kind of money (and Obama loves the Mayo cost model).

A friend of mine who works there says the Mayo started getting compensation in other ways to quiet them down....but everyone knows it is a ticking time bomb.

So...if you can't pay them, they won't come.

Got it ?
 
That is a stupid statement.

If demand for doctors is high...then the renumeration to the doctors would attract them in a free market.

When the market is regulated....you will have a shortage.

Missed that last gas crisis did you ?

Why don't you tell me exactly why you think that there will be a shortage of doctors?

"Obamacare" is only going to give doctors more business.

As has been pointed out on several threads through the past several months.....

The Mayo in AZ stopped taking "business" in the form of medicare....look it up. They said they were losing 140 million a year. Now, tell me how you are going to pay doctors when you are losing that kind of money (and Obama loves the Mayo cost model).

A friend of mine who works there says the Mayo started getting compensation in other ways to quiet them down....but everyone knows it is a ticking time bomb.

So...if you can't pay them, they won't come.

Got it ?

Have they stopped taking private insurance? Because that's what "Obamacare" is.
 
Actually, the first major step in forcing compliance will be to limit sign up to the already suggested "open enrollment" periods. They'll do this to prevent scofflaws from waiting until they're sick to sign up. Which is funny as hell (in a malicious, sick kinda way) because it basically does away the one thing we were promised in exchange for a life time of servitude to the insurance corps - guaranteed issue.

Suckers!!!
 
since i lost my job and insurance i found a part time job. thus i have to go to jail as well.
Yaah a friend of mine is in the same boat.
Lost his job, wasoutsourced to India. finally found a part time job 25-30 hours a week @8.50.

How can you afford insurance on that?
Of course you coudl be homeless and starve to death but have insurance?
 
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the government can kiss my ass.

i'm not buying health care insurance.

because i'm trying to start my own business i'm already a target for the IRS, now by refusing to purchase health care insurance i'm going to be a huge target for the IRS.

they can charge me for what health care really is, a new large tax.

being part of the 2% who will not participate, i do not comply with corrupt government.
i expect to have problems with the IRS within 5 years


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"My Supreme Court Prediction"
Wolfstrike 3/28/12


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i have a bad feeling that the supreme court is going to hold up their ruling on health care until after the election.

they hear the case for 3 days before they go back to perma-vacation, they said that they will release their meaningless opinion before the election, but i have a feeling they will drag it out so it doesn't effect Obama.

health insurance totalitarians have already stated that they expect the ruling to pass the court by one vote.

my spidy senses are already picking up bad signals....
the other day they had a biography of justice John Roberts talking about how "conservative" he is.
making sure it's well known this is a "conservative" supreme court ..which it really isn't.


Scalia and Thomas are on record for conservative voting, and we got 2 guys who are supposed to be hard-core conservatives,

we got 4 fruits and nuts

then the guy Kennedy "the moderate" will be the one to take the payoff and pass the mandate
- Wolfstrike




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"Supreme Court and the heath care bill"
-Wolfstrike 4/12/12

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i predict that if the Republicans can't get rid of Romney as the moninee, the supreme court will uphold the healthcare mandate
- Wolfstrike



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There's no enforcement mechanism for the penalty. And as for being a "target" of the IRS, it's interesting that you are starting a business in this country if you feel it's "corrupt". It's a business that won't be making use of any government facilities and infrastructure like the courts, roads, bridges, the electrical grid, telecommunications, the sanitation department, the police department, the fire department, water works, mail, and a host of other things..

Right?
 
Well, since wingnuts are now privatizing prisons, this will be good for the economy. Maybe even help get Obama reelected.
 

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